How do you know that this “anonymous” VPN service won’t actually lead the RIAA/MPAA straight to you? Don’t worry, it won’t be immediate. They’ll let it gather plenty of evidence against you and your downloading habits first. It may even steal your keystrokes, email account details and more. Who knows? With the level of corruption we’ve been seeing at the highest level of governments, it’s obvious that these parasites are above the law.

When it comes to stuff like this, it’s worth being paranoid. Very paranoid.

Because sitting in a public place is considered a private activity?

I have another serious question for you, two actually;

When you’ve gone on vacation and visited some tourist attraction, have you ever taken a photo that inadvertantly included other people in the background?

If so, did you make sure to get the permission of each and every person that you might have accidentally includes in your photos?

Frankly, I can’t understand this warped idea that it’s perfectly fine to be seen in public, but if someone takes a photo that happens to include you, or your house, or your car, without your permission, it’s some great crime against humanity.

(Bell Canada: Surf’s UP):
Lets say you change all your 100M Local Lan cards to 1000M ones, well, inside your new Lan you will get better speed right?
ok-That is basically all that Bell is trying to do with 16 Max (non-technically speaking). Our “local” so-to-speak canadian network is now potentially faster. The real questionis geeez, why didn’t they just do that sooner ? and that way, there would be NO EXCUSE to “throttle” us.

But, when we hit the outside world its ALL only as good as the weakest link (dsl overhead, certain lower country BW models, the big network trunks, ……, … )right ok.

The BELL apparent “internal” congestion in theory, probably never was , AND, therefore is NON-EXISTENT -simply because of the above IP technologies which we’ve already had for years. BNR/Nortel ring a bell ?
Its just (this new)Bell tryin’ to nickel-n-dime us again a bit. (actually, make that A LOT).

In other words, if Bell, Rogers, … would have just kept upgrading and maintaining our Canadian “Lan” so-to-speak, then what “throttling” ?
“Balancing/throttling” everyones network usage is akin to this cause you can’t “GIVE” to one, without “TAKING” from another.

I know, “Here we go again…” :
But ask yourself why those 100 year old phone poles and lines, and Cable, have been up for the last 100 years or so, and why haven’t they ALL been upgraded to “Fibre” lines directly to every Canadian home by NOW,…ie., (FTTN), and you’ll have your answer.
BNR/Nortel Netwroks was ready to do it ALL at one point in time, and not to long ago, for us. -BUT greedy, or really stoooopid Ma Bell didn’t want to put that initial, and lets face it, HUGE $INVESTMENT-Technology for that kind of upgrade for Canada. But did we really have it -OH YESSSS !
…Ooops, now Nortel is gone -errr um hey how about ‘dem new wireless technology instead eh !??

And this is why other countries are finally surpassing us on QoS and better bang for their buck Internet-wise. Actually they are getting better at network back-bone technologies and doing it “without” throttling the heck out of their customers.
I mean its not like Bell/Rogers hasn’t been making Billions of dollars over the last several decades or so that they couldn’t have done all these upgrades FIRST. ?
Nope, its greed, too many cheifs not enough Indians, too many corrupt and greedy CEO’s and not enough technicians.
Its too many Canadian Lemmings’, and not enough Canadian Beavers. !

Basically, we can’t entrust our (CDN) corporations that raise prices/rates, …. first, but “upgrade” and “R&D” is LAST ?! -comon !
Our Internet, which is still publicly owned by all of us, is too important to entrust with the likes of that kind-of corporate management mentality.
(…and lets not even mention how useless and outdated our CRTC has been in all these regards)

We entrusted Bell Canada/Rogers,… to provide us with the best Internet technology, FTTN, ADSLv2,…SLAM, keep it comin’, and experience and we Canadians were willing to pay. Instead, we get “throttling” excuses from all of them.
But over the last few years they have miserably failed, instead, they have fallin’ back onto some kind of “Corporate-driven-profiteering” mechanisms with no one really at the wheel anymore seeing ahead !!!
We all paid them dearly and monthly so that we wouldn’t end up in this canadian-consumer debacle. THEY LIED !

You know, like oh here’s a little new technological-trinket called Fibre Max, even though, they have bloody-well had that developed technology “years” ago already. But umm oh ya, we gotta charge a little more of course first for it.

I think with enough awareness from all canadians, and with the likes of saveournet.ca, netneutrality.ca, … eventually Bell (and you too Rogers) may re-structure itself, but without R&D from the likes of BNR/Nortel Networks that Canada may not see again for awhile well I dunno ?

I got hopes for Canada (once again) being the Numero Uno for Innovative Networking mediums’ off any kind, and since we share alot with the world we’ll never be alone.

Don’t you listen to them, ’cause Bell/Rogers, …, could easily upgrade their hardware and forget the “throttling” strategy, which, as even they know now, is back-firing on them like a “blue angel flatulation”. GOOD!

Summarily, they don’t “NEED” to throttle us.
In any case, to say the least, “Throttling” is UN-Canadian

Rick.
Ottawa.
Canada.

Actually, it’s more like being sued for making a car body that a Ferrari engine will fit into.

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Oh, Tom…

Since none of the providers that have claimed to have congestion problems have actually bothered to produce the proof, the claim itself has no merit, and therefore, reducing someone’s transfer to a 10th of its possible speed for 40% of the day, without offering any rebate or discounting of the customer’s bill cannot be construed as anything else but extortion.

This has nothing to do with the condition of Malaysia’s internet, or whether a Marxist government is involved, or how low the Dow-Jones dipped that morning. If I have a possible total transfer of 500KB/s, based on my own connection, and a strong number of seeds totalling over 1GB/s, it would be my provider that is choosing to dumb me down to only 30KB/s. That’s only one part of the beef.

Additionally, if congestion was an actual problem, then why throttle for prolonged periods of time? For every user being reduced to a 10th of their capabilities, that’s a file taking 10 TIMES AS LONG to transfer, and the user waiting for it is not clearing the line. And, since the throttling is being done relentlessly for 8-11 hours in succession, none of these delayed users get to reclaim any of that lost capacity (and get out of the way) when the supposed congestion has subsided. Add those users who haven’t cleared their transfers to the additional users that come into it during that time, and then add all the retransmitted packets to replace the ones thrown away in the process, and all the throttling has succeeded in doing is delaying information transfers for nothing! It actually appears to cause more trouble than it’s supposed to solve.

As to the hose analogy, that one also ignores the very basic “supply/demand/pricing” argument you keep side-stepping. It’s “HORSE, then CART”, and not the other way around.

Yes, you often DO make some of us think.
Unfortunately, this curious comparison of Net Neutrality to Communism/Socialism/Marxism only causes any functionally-thinking person to simply scratch his head, wondering WTF you’ve been smokin’ lately! (Probably a more plausible explanation of why you’d be laughing as well.)

Net Neutrality is no dream. The Internet began with it.
Much of it is still intact, however, corporate interference is attempting to take it away, and causing us to defend it. However, these corporates didn’t create the Internet, and only own parts of it that CAN be replaced. Most of them are clinging to the idea that seizing control of certain elements of the Internet will save their butts from sinking with their failing business models. It won’t work.

There’s nothing “socialistic” about throttling.
In order to have a socialist act, you still need an accepted authority to initiate it. Providers don’t have the authority (at least in North America) to interfere with data, nor do they own the data itself. Throttling is a senseless activity that is counterproductive to a mission of keeping data moving. Using “throttling” and “network management” in the same sentence only creates an oxymoron.

I’m sure the providers that engage in throttling know this as well, and have an ulterior motive behind it all…

Step 1: Keep spewing the “P2P steals everyone’s bandwidth” propaganda to justify network interference.
(Already done)

Step 2: Keep kissing MAFIAA butt and give creedance to their “P2P users are all thieves” propaganda, to justify spying.
(Already done)

Step 3: Convince governments about the need to increase providers’ control over data, to curb “illegal downloading”, “IP theft” and “network congestion” (maybe throw in “child pornography” for good measure?), thus opening the door for a mass blessing of their use of DPI technology.
(In progress!)

Results:
- DPI becomes widely accepted.
- warrantless spying becomes acceptable.
- arbitrary traffic shaping becomes acceptable.
- anti-competitive behaviour by large mainstream providers becomes virtually impossible to challenge.

The idea that users are somehow responsible for the mess is the “empty rhetoric” that is widely used to deflect the fact (as you continue to do, by the way, Tom) that subscribers were sold a service they’re not getting, and the agreement between the customer and the business is being violated.

Providers are only “distribution nodes” that we’ve allowed to evolve into something way too important-seeming. The reality is, everything a provider does with its network impacts the rest of the world network in some way. If they don’t summarily allow an unfettered, free flow of information through their own pipes, they’re doing the rest of the world a complete disservice.

Traffic processed by a provider is certainly not comprised of only their own subscribers. If providers are allowed to tamper with or examine any of this data on an ongoing basis, they really should need the rest of the world’s permission to do so.

That won’t work either.

Tom, I really don’t know where you were going here.
You profess to be a “proponent of P2P” and “just the messenger”, yet you repeat some of the same corporate BS that has already been debunked ad nauseum.

1) “Don’t bitch about what you can’t change” (??)
I would direct that one back at the corporates, who are trying to TAKE AWAY Net Neutrality. Anyway, who TF says anything here can’t be changed?!

2) “I am happy to debate this subject… with anyone that has had more than 20,000 customers…Anyone else just doesnt really have a ‘clue’.”
What?! You think this is a matter that can only be debated by PROVIDERS??
Not only is that disingenuous to the masses, but totally inappropriate and stinking of some strange misdirected elitism.
You can debate the technical aspects of network provision all you want - it has virtually nothing to do with the Net Neutrality debate. In the end, you’re still avoiding the questions of reneging on a business agreement with your customers, and whether or not a provider should have the right to interfere with everyone’s data (the heart of the debate).

3) “I cant drive my old 7 series down the freeway at 200 miles per hour”
This is a pretty feeble analogy.
Did anyone do anything to give you the impression you could do this!
Is anyone else on that freeway supposed to do that, either!
You enter the freeway under ADVERTISED CONDITIONS… the speed limit, and the Law.
This is a complete contrast to many providers, who continually, to this day, advertise “always fast”, “unlimited”, “download large files, streaming video and other rich media”, yet pull the rug out from under you for doing just that.

As for the “communist/marxist/socialist” references you’ve made, I can only put that down to possible sleep deprivation on your part.

…But, it did almost make me laugh.

No, there isn’t.

If buying a bigger hosepipe is what it takes to meet your promises, then that is what you do. You don’t waste time, energy and money looking for ways around that fact either. Sadly, admitting ones mistakes and accepting responsibility for them is a rare thing in this day and age no matter who you are. That is especially true of businesses whom tend to care more about their public image and profit than anything else.

Thomas Koltai Says: “To all those that dont understand - obtain one gallon can - fill up with two gallons. When you have done so - please write the secret of your method in here.”

Ok, so I went out and purchased a one gallon can. When I got home I excitedly tried to fill it up, but to my immense dismay I discovered it was defective and could only hold about one third of a gallon. I tried to return it but couldn’t. The fine print on the receipt said ‘No refunds!’.

Henry Emrich Says: “But hey, it’s nice to know that some people will always find a way to apologize for just about anything.”

They’ll also find ways to rationalize just about any act, no matter how heinous. As humans, our ability for self delusion knows no bounds. It’s why people are able to convince themselves to believe their own lies. All it takes is saying it enough times to become true in their minds.

Good to see you’re awake and alert! Congrats for spotting today’s deliberate mistake (ahem, cough, cough)

Fixed.

Cheers!

Sarah Palin is about to BLOW UP!

Yes, that’s right folks! We have just learned through “IS” Insider Sources, that the Prez2B is about to put her camPAIN on STEROIDs!!!! Exclamation Mark. Clap. Applause and drum rolls… puhSLeeez. “IS” has just informed us that the vivacious EX-gov is putting her Prez hopes on HGH! Her Governors Humpty!

Yep! As we type, her “IC” Inner Circle team of “BS” Beaucratic Shakers are convening in D.C. to set the stage for the next Prez race. We went inside Studio B, The Situation Room and did a 360 and spoke with Hannity, O’Reilly, Blitzer, Donner and Prancer and it’s confirmed, her P-TEAM is on the move! P-TEAM Political Tactical Experts At Mucking are feverishly working behind the scenes prepping the shapely political virtuoso for the announcement. Word is the ticket could be:

Palin and LIMPbaugh
Palin and Newt GingRich
Palin and Sanford
Palin and SPITzer
Palin and Hannity
Palin and O’Reilly
Palin and Ensign

Although the P-TEAM is still fiercely debating whose going to be Sarah’s running mate, LIMPbaugh says he’s the best candidate for America. When GingRich asked if his past could affect the ticket, his response was, “NO!” Newt said America has forgiven and forgotten that he called it quits just like Palin. If you are a TRUE Republican, you should be Xcited!!!! Go Republicans! Go GOP Get Others Pumped! We can do this!

“Does that means she’ll go for The Job in 1012?”

She’d probably have a better chance in 2012.
: )

Once you allow this kind of prying into the picture, you immediately throw away the idea of a WARRANT PROCESS.
EVERYONE will abuse it, and, once installed, it will be FURTHER DEVELOPED to have even more capabilities that will be abused.
As more capabilities develop, MORE SPECIAL INTERESTS will demand access to stuff that a judge would previously have refused to grant a warrant for.

We need to keep DPI away from the providers.
(We already know we can’t trust any of the major ones.)

“Still struggling to get off the pain meds.” It’s a hard road, but when you get to the end, it’s worth it. If you ever want to talk, email me p2pnet @ shaw dot ca. I have VoIP and Skype, so it wouldn’t be a problem.

Cheers!