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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/10209#comment-129440</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 23:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rafael, great read!
That's so true. 
on digg you would get a thumbs up for that! 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rafael, great read!<br />
That&#8217;s so true.<br />
on digg you would get a thumbs up for that! </p>
<p>&#8211;<br />
kdsde</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/10209#comment-129406</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 20:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/10209#comment-129406</guid>
		<description>Just how much are they paying you ????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just how much are they paying you ????</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/10209#comment-129395</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 15:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/10209#comment-129395</guid>
		<description>There is one thing I fail to understand.

Why are the "file-save as" stats never mentioned? This is where the big "criminal piracy" (per the cartels, not me) ocurr.

We all know that our browsers have a  "file-save as" function. The purpose being to copy entire web pages to our hard disks. Prior to using the "file-save as" function, we "criminals" never do any copyright status research for all that is on the page we are saving. We therefore save text, images, ads, logos, etc. For all I know and care, these objects can all be copyright "protected" and theoretically can only be copied with the owner's authorization. I have never asked for any such authorization, That is why I am a criminal, "file-save as" copyright infringer and pirate. Guilty as a kid who downloads a song from the web.

Now, each time we use the "file-save as" function without the authorization of the copyright owners, using the cartel's logic, we "criminals" do not buy the products and two things ocurr, 1. there is a money loss to the owners due to lost sales and the money is lost to the economy and 2.  jobs are lost. I admit that by using the "file-save as" function I may not purchase as many book as I may have purchased and that the book publishing industry could be devastated by my criminal behaviour.

Additionally, the saving of web pages for the purpose of creating a dossiers of politicians is a direct threat to politician's survival. Imagine how many people, mostly Democrats, have a dossier on Bush and at a moments notice can recall and show the news article where Bush proclaimed he won the war on Irak. Or some of the Foley morality speeches.

I know for a fact thet "inducing others to infringe is itself an infringement. The Supreme Court said it. I accept that I have been induced to use the "file-save as" function of my browsers to become a "criminal", mostly by Microsoft through their Internet Explorer. All my friends and relatives are also "file-save as criminals" that are destroying the economy of many countries by theri frequent use of the "file-save as" function on their browser.

This raises some questions.

Is there any expert out there that can explain why the whosesale "file-save as" activity is tolerated and not even mentioned even though as a criminal piracy activity it is far more prevalent than song file sharing? A wild guess, for each song shared 100 web pages and pdf files are criminally "file-saved as", not for later viewing, but for permanent dossier bulding. 

Is the FBI gathering information so that each time we use "file-save as" function they are notified?

Is Bush planning to end all "file-save as" function on browsers because of it's possible link to terrorism and/or damage to the economy and threat to politician's career?

Has the Copyright Office given an opinion?

Do judges and cartel (RIAA, etc) copyright lawyers and executives respect the law by never using the "file-save as" finction?

Has any newpaper reporter ever asked the right questions to the right persons?

Is there any research on the subject?

What is Bill Gates opinion?

Should I turn myself in to the FBI for being a "file-save as" criminal or should I wait until they catch me?

Please note: If there is some humor in this post, it is not as humorous as the cartel 'pirate' stats.

Rafael Venegas
http://www.gvenegas.com

 


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is one thing I fail to understand.</p>
<p>Why are the &#8220;file-save as&#8221; stats never mentioned? This is where the big &#8220;criminal piracy&#8221; (per the cartels, not me) ocurr.</p>
<p>We all know that our browsers have a  &#8220;file-save as&#8221; function. The purpose being to copy entire web pages to our hard disks. Prior to using the &#8220;file-save as&#8221; function, we &#8220;criminals&#8221; never do any copyright status research for all that is on the page we are saving. We therefore save text, images, ads, logos, etc. For all I know and care, these objects can all be copyright &#8220;protected&#8221; and theoretically can only be copied with the owner&#8217;s authorization. I have never asked for any such authorization, That is why I am a criminal, &#8220;file-save as&#8221; copyright infringer and pirate. Guilty as a kid who downloads a song from the web.</p>
<p>Now, each time we use the &#8220;file-save as&#8221; function without the authorization of the copyright owners, using the cartel&#8217;s logic, we &#8220;criminals&#8221; do not buy the products and two things ocurr, 1. there is a money loss to the owners due to lost sales and the money is lost to the economy and 2.  jobs are lost. I admit that by using the &#8220;file-save as&#8221; function I may not purchase as many book as I may have purchased and that the book publishing industry could be devastated by my criminal behaviour.</p>
<p>Additionally, the saving of web pages for the purpose of creating a dossiers of politicians is a direct threat to politician&#8217;s survival. Imagine how many people, mostly Democrats, have a dossier on Bush and at a moments notice can recall and show the news article where Bush proclaimed he won the war on Irak. Or some of the Foley morality speeches.</p>
<p>I know for a fact thet &#8220;inducing others to infringe is itself an infringement. The Supreme Court said it. I accept that I have been induced to use the &#8220;file-save as&#8221; function of my browsers to become a &#8220;criminal&#8221;, mostly by Microsoft through their Internet Explorer. All my friends and relatives are also &#8220;file-save as criminals&#8221; that are destroying the economy of many countries by theri frequent use of the &#8220;file-save as&#8221; function on their browser.</p>
<p>This raises some questions.</p>
<p>Is there any expert out there that can explain why the whosesale &#8220;file-save as&#8221; activity is tolerated and not even mentioned even though as a criminal piracy activity it is far more prevalent than song file sharing? A wild guess, for each song shared 100 web pages and pdf files are criminally &#8220;file-saved as&#8221;, not for later viewing, but for permanent dossier bulding. </p>
<p>Is the FBI gathering information so that each time we use &#8220;file-save as&#8221; function they are notified?</p>
<p>Is Bush planning to end all &#8220;file-save as&#8221; function on browsers because of it&#8217;s possible link to terrorism and/or damage to the economy and threat to politician&#8217;s career?</p>
<p>Has the Copyright Office given an opinion?</p>
<p>Do judges and cartel (RIAA, etc) copyright lawyers and executives respect the law by never using the &#8220;file-save as&#8221; finction?</p>
<p>Has any newpaper reporter ever asked the right questions to the right persons?</p>
<p>Is there any research on the subject?</p>
<p>What is Bill Gates opinion?</p>
<p>Should I turn myself in to the FBI for being a &#8220;file-save as&#8221; criminal or should I wait until they catch me?</p>
<p>Please note: If there is some humor in this post, it is not as humorous as the cartel &#8216;pirate&#8217; stats.</p>
<p>Rafael Venegas<br />
<a href="http://www.gvenegas.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.gvenegas.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/10209#comment-129380</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 20:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/10209#comment-129380</guid>
		<description>Excellent, but don't expect the lamescream (perfect name for them) media to pay any attention</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent, but don&#8217;t expect the lamescream (perfect name for them) media to pay any attention</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/10209#comment-129376</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 12:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/10209#comment-129376</guid>
		<description>yeah, wow, pirating software was only 7, among players like opium/heroin and cocaine, i don't find that very positive, it just shows that corporations have billions of reasons to target software piracy

and as far as pirates are concerned, well i'm one of them, i don't hide it but i don't hide why i do it either, because i'm fucking lazy, cheap and no stranger to breaking laws, i don't belive that anything someone else produces and decides to sell should be free, it's against the producers wishes and that's that, nothing more to it really, even though i don't care and will always keep pirating stuff i consider it stealing</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, wow, pirating software was only 7, among players like opium/heroin and cocaine, i don&#8217;t find that very positive, it just shows that corporations have billions of reasons to target software piracy</p>
<p>and as far as pirates are concerned, well i&#8217;m one of them, i don&#8217;t hide it but i don&#8217;t hide why i do it either, because i&#8217;m fucking lazy, cheap and no stranger to breaking laws, i don&#8217;t belive that anything someone else produces and decides to sell should be free, it&#8217;s against the producers wishes and that&#8217;s that, nothing more to it really, even though i don&#8217;t care and will always keep pirating stuff i consider it stealing</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/10209#comment-129375</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 10:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/10209#comment-129375</guid>
		<description>A nation of peers - Iceland's P2P world record

In a newly released report on Internet use in Iceland [available as PDF @ http://www.statice.is/?PageID=452&#038;itemid=884382cf-c5e6-4565-a8d1-0935ec50de34], the National Statistics Institute reveals that close to a third of the population actively download music, movies, games and software from the Internet.  Of those nearly 7 out of 10 use P2P systems.  This would be the highest percentage of P2P use per capita in the world.

This should come as no surprise as 86% of the nation have access to the Internet and nearly 85% of the homes have access to high speed connections.  Nearly 6% of P2P filesharers are over 65.  Only a third more males use P2P systems then women.

DVD and CD sales and personal imports of such goods have at the same time risen considerably and the video rentals and movie attendance is still one of the highest per capita in Europe.  The natives believe in standing on the shoulders of their peers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A nation of peers - Iceland&#8217;s P2P world record</p>
<p>In a newly released report on Internet use in Iceland [available as PDF @ <a href="http://www.statice.is/?PageID=452&#038;itemid=884382cf-c5e6-4565-a8d1-0935ec50de34]," rel="nofollow">http://www.statice.is/?PageID=452&#038;itemid=884382cf-c5e6-4565-a8d1-0935ec50de34],</a> the National Statistics Institute reveals that close to a third of the population actively download music, movies, games and software from the Internet.  Of those nearly 7 out of 10 use P2P systems.  This would be the highest percentage of P2P use per capita in the world.</p>
<p>This should come as no surprise as 86% of the nation have access to the Internet and nearly 85% of the homes have access to high speed connections.  Nearly 6% of P2P filesharers are over 65.  Only a third more males use P2P systems then women.</p>
<p>DVD and CD sales and personal imports of such goods have at the same time risen considerably and the video rentals and movie attendance is still one of the highest per capita in Europe.  The natives believe in standing on the shoulders of their peers.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/10209#comment-129367</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 05:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/10209#comment-129367</guid>
		<description>Pardon me, but we (the family music publishing company I administer) have lost, we estimate, millions of dollars because the music record and music publishing industries have robbed us in plain daylight, with the approval and help of the courts.

I wonder, are our numbers included in the RIAA statistics. I do not recall that RIAA has asked us how much RIAA member piracy has cost us.

So, in a way RIAA exagerates and underreports "piracy" losses at the same time.  

BTW, why is it that the premise is that money that does not flow to the cartels is money that does not flow somehow into the economy or to a useful purpose, perhaps to pay the medical bills of a life saving operation? 

Rafael Venegas
http://www.gvenegas.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pardon me, but we (the family music publishing company I administer) have lost, we estimate, millions of dollars because the music record and music publishing industries have robbed us in plain daylight, with the approval and help of the courts.</p>
<p>I wonder, are our numbers included in the RIAA statistics. I do not recall that RIAA has asked us how much RIAA member piracy has cost us.</p>
<p>So, in a way RIAA exagerates and underreports &#8220;piracy&#8221; losses at the same time.  </p>
<p>BTW, why is it that the premise is that money that does not flow to the cartels is money that does not flow somehow into the economy or to a useful purpose, perhaps to pay the medical bills of a life saving operation? </p>
<p>Rafael Venegas<br />
<a href="http://www.gvenegas.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.gvenegas.com</a></p>
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