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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/10645/comment-page-1#comment-131446</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 19:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s to be expected that some small-minded people will resort to the argument that if you&#039;re against censorship, you&#039;re in favour of child porn.

But in this case, it won&#039;t work. You&#039;ve just declared yourself in favor of replacing:

1. the present system, whereby any child porn found on the web is reported to the police, who shut down the site and arrest the owner (or notify the police in other jurisdictions so they can do the same), with

2. the proposed system, whereby any child porn found on the web (and possibly anything else that someone dislikes) is reported to Cybertips, who have the ISPs hide the sites from view, giving child pornographers the cover they need to continue with what they were doing.

Sounds to me like YOU&#039;RE the one who is willing to sacrifice children. Maybe you&#039;re even a child pornographer yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s to be expected that some small-minded people will resort to the argument that if you&#8217;re against censorship, you&#8217;re in favour of child porn.</p>
<p>But in this case, it won&#8217;t work. You&#8217;ve just declared yourself in favor of replacing:</p>
<p>1. the present system, whereby any child porn found on the web is reported to the police, who shut down the site and arrest the owner (or notify the police in other jurisdictions so they can do the same), with</p>
<p>2. the proposed system, whereby any child porn found on the web (and possibly anything else that someone dislikes) is reported to Cybertips, who have the ISPs hide the sites from view, giving child pornographers the cover they need to continue with what they were doing.</p>
<p>Sounds to me like YOU&#8217;RE the one who is willing to sacrifice children. Maybe you&#8217;re even a child pornographer yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/10645/comment-page-1#comment-131409</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Dec 2006 09:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In this day and age, laws are treated as a deterrent, especially regarding sex offenders.  How many times has some pretentious wench at some kind of &quot;victim advocacy group&quot; spouted that &quot;they knew what they were doing and if they didn&#039;t want to suffer [this new and more ridiculous form of] punishment, they wouldn&#039;t have done it!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this day and age, laws are treated as a deterrent, especially regarding sex offenders.  How many times has some pretentious wench at some kind of &#8220;victim advocacy group&#8221; spouted that &#8220;they knew what they were doing and if they didn&#8217;t want to suffer [this new and more ridiculous form of] punishment, they wouldn&#8217;t have done it!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/10645/comment-page-1#comment-131140</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 12:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>
the previous post goes to show just how easy it is to control the &#039;average&#039; person&#039;s opinion.  This fellow thinks an uncensored internet is implicit permission to molest children.  Arguing against such illogical opinions is like trying to argue the answer to a multiplication question with someone that doesn&#039;t even understand basic addition.

Is it any wonder people who want to censor all sorts of other things online start with something under the guise of &#039;protecting children&#039;?  It&#039;s a good way to manipulate all the hot-button non-thinking types to your side of an issue without fail, as is being demonstrated.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the previous post goes to show just how easy it is to control the &#8216;average&#8217; person&#8217;s opinion.  This fellow thinks an uncensored internet is implicit permission to molest children.  Arguing against such illogical opinions is like trying to argue the answer to a multiplication question with someone that doesn&#8217;t even understand basic addition.</p>
<p>Is it any wonder people who want to censor all sorts of other things online start with something under the guise of &#8216;protecting children&#8217;?  It&#8217;s a good way to manipulate all the hot-button non-thinking types to your side of an issue without fail, as is being demonstrated.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/10645/comment-page-1#comment-131139</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 12:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unless you are the one producing child-porn, how is your child in danger due to an uncensored internet?  A child viewing material that a parent doesn&#039;t approve of is not dangerous to the child.

Besides, if you are a parent of a young child, you have the ability to regulate that child&#039;s access to a computer if you are really worried about you child being gullible enough to get lured into something in a chat room.  Perhaps if people didn&#039;t raise such stupid kids these days this wouldn&#039;t be such a problem.

Personally I feel that censorship is not enough and we should all take implanted microchips and cameras so we can prove to the government we&#039;re all good little boot-lickers.  Also these chips could monitor our brains for any sign of thought-crime.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unless you are the one producing child-porn, how is your child in danger due to an uncensored internet?  A child viewing material that a parent doesn&#8217;t approve of is not dangerous to the child.</p>
<p>Besides, if you are a parent of a young child, you have the ability to regulate that child&#8217;s access to a computer if you are really worried about you child being gullible enough to get lured into something in a chat room.  Perhaps if people didn&#8217;t raise such stupid kids these days this wouldn&#8217;t be such a problem.</p>
<p>Personally I feel that censorship is not enough and we should all take implanted microchips and cameras so we can prove to the government we&#8217;re all good little boot-lickers.  Also these chips could monitor our brains for any sign of thought-crime.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/10645/comment-page-1#comment-131134</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 09:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no one is talking about &quot;making this bullshit legal&quot;!

they are talking about not censoring the net in the name of &quot;this bullshit&quot;.

The stuff is still illegal and against the law!! 
Even if you DO NOT try to censor the internet.

You know, in the Internet you only have 0&#039;s and 1&#039;s.

00010101 &lt;- kiddyporn (which is already illegal)
10101010 &lt;- your freee speech against an undemocratic government

censoring the net in the name of children is NOT to prevent 00010101 but mainly to prevent 10101010!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no one is talking about &#8220;making this bullshit legal&#8221;!</p>
<p>they are talking about not censoring the net in the name of &#8220;this bullshit&#8221;.</p>
<p>The stuff is still illegal and against the law!!<br />
Even if you DO NOT try to censor the internet.</p>
<p>You know, in the Internet you only have 0&#8217;s and 1&#8217;s.</p>
<p>00010101 &lt;- kiddyporn (which is already illegal)<br />
10101010 &lt;- your freee speech against an undemocratic government</p>
<p>censoring the net in the name of children is NOT to prevent 00010101 but mainly to prevent 10101010!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/10645/comment-page-1#comment-131133</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 08:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t get it. This whole Internet censorship of child porn is just hiding the problem under a mat. I&#039;m sure the governments around the world can find ways to use their power to take child porn websites down by putting pressure to the ISP and local authorities.

It doesn&#039;t matter what you censor off the Internet, it&#039;s just wrong in my opinion.

-LW-</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t get it. This whole Internet censorship of child porn is just hiding the problem under a mat. I&#8217;m sure the governments around the world can find ways to use their power to take child porn websites down by putting pressure to the ISP and local authorities.</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t matter what you censor off the Internet, it&#8217;s just wrong in my opinion.</p>
<p>-LW-</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/10645/comment-page-1#comment-131131</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 04:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How this can be up for genuine debate is beyond anyone with common sense. The sexual exploitation of children, at least is one of those freedoms that must be given up for membership of a democracy. In reality however how nonces, rock spiders and other gutter dwellers think sexually exploiting the most defenceless in our society can in any way be appropriate or tolerated is astonishing. This is one freedom we can all do without!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How this can be up for genuine debate is beyond anyone with common sense. The sexual exploitation of children, at least is one of those freedoms that must be given up for membership of a democracy. In reality however how nonces, rock spiders and other gutter dwellers think sexually exploiting the most defenceless in our society can in any way be appropriate or tolerated is astonishing. This is one freedom we can all do without!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/10645/comment-page-1#comment-131126</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 22:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You folks are forgetting one thing.

Child porn is a crime scene. It involves the rape &amp; abuse of a child, a child who did not agree to it, who is not of age to consent, who is often forced or coerced into it. IT IS NOT A VICTIMLESS CRIME.

It is not &quot;hate literature&quot;, which only involves someone writing down thoughts &amp; words, no matter how despicable those thoughts are.  It is not like &quot;Prohibition&quot;; the drinking of alcohol harms no one save the drinker.

By viewing child porn, you perpetuate the abuse of that child. Those who create it are abusing children; whether it is a &quot;common&quot; issue or not, the ABUSE MUST STOP.

You cut off the channels that allow for easy access to it. You cut off their funding. You make it hard for them to produce &amp; distribute this rape of humanity, so hard they move on to other things. Yes, there will always be ways to work around the protections; there&#039;s ways around any law. But without the law in place, you have no means to prosecute the perpetrators. Laws aren&#039;t a deterrent. They&#039;re the means to prosecute when the perpetrators are caught.

For the person talking about &quot;overprotection&quot; of children, you can&#039;t seriously be talking about making this bullshit legal. Are laws against murder and rape of adults somehow &quot;overprotecting&quot; us? Hell no.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You folks are forgetting one thing.</p>
<p>Child porn is a crime scene. It involves the rape &#038; abuse of a child, a child who did not agree to it, who is not of age to consent, who is often forced or coerced into it. IT IS NOT A VICTIMLESS CRIME.</p>
<p>It is not &#8220;hate literature&#8221;, which only involves someone writing down thoughts &#038; words, no matter how despicable those thoughts are.  It is not like &#8220;Prohibition&#8221;; the drinking of alcohol harms no one save the drinker.</p>
<p>By viewing child porn, you perpetuate the abuse of that child. Those who create it are abusing children; whether it is a &#8220;common&#8221; issue or not, the ABUSE MUST STOP.</p>
<p>You cut off the channels that allow for easy access to it. You cut off their funding. You make it hard for them to produce &#038; distribute this rape of humanity, so hard they move on to other things. Yes, there will always be ways to work around the protections; there&#8217;s ways around any law. But without the law in place, you have no means to prosecute the perpetrators. Laws aren&#8217;t a deterrent. They&#8217;re the means to prosecute when the perpetrators are caught.</p>
<p>For the person talking about &#8220;overprotection&#8221; of children, you can&#8217;t seriously be talking about making this bullshit legal. Are laws against murder and rape of adults somehow &#8220;overprotecting&#8221; us? Hell no.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/10645/comment-page-1#comment-131124</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 21:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s tough. As a parent, I don&#039;t want to see my kid exposed to unnecessary danger, and there are some really bad people running around loose. But I don&#039;t want to see our rights eroded further than they are already, either. So on balance, I don&#039;t think I want to leave things up to the ISPs or Cleanfeed Canada. That realy would be the thin end of the wedge, as someone else said. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s tough. As a parent, I don&#8217;t want to see my kid exposed to unnecessary danger, and there are some really bad people running around loose. But I don&#8217;t want to see our rights eroded further than they are already, either. So on balance, I don&#8217;t think I want to leave things up to the ISPs or Cleanfeed Canada. That realy would be the thin end of the wedge, as someone else said.</p>
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