Comments on: Spanish ‘CC’ cafe closed http://www.p2pnet.net/story/10681 p2pnet.net - reader powered Wed, 01 Feb 2012 15:11:09 -0300 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/10681/comment-page-1#comment-131218 Reader's Write Fri, 08 Dec 2006 03:12:49 +0000 #comment-131218 "According to a court ruling, "the document presented by the defendants-appellants as a licence for free use of music does not constitute anything other than a mere informative leaflet about its own content, lacking any form of signature, and therefore bereft of legal value whatsoever," says TechnoLlama." So what? If a document says you can do anything that is legal, it does not matter if it is signed or official or otherwise valid. The only beef the Spanish collective could have had is that the restaurant was performing songs represented by the collective, without the collective's license. CC licensed songs are not, presumably licensed by any collective, so a collective cannot complain about the performance of such songs. Of course, if the restaurant wanted to perform songs licensed by the collective, they would, in theory, need a license from the collective, if with the license the restaurant was made aware of which songs are licensed. Meaning: The licenses are worthless. In most places the collective's licenses do not convey song names. Is Spain any different? I doubt it, but if anyone knows any better, say so, please. Rafael Venegas http://www.gvenegas.com “According to a court ruling, “the document presented by the defendants-appellants as a licence for free use of music does not constitute anything other than a mere informative leaflet about its own content, lacking any form of signature, and therefore bereft of legal value whatsoever,” says TechnoLlama.”

So what?

If a document says you can do anything that is legal, it does not matter if it is signed or official or otherwise valid.

The only beef the Spanish collective could have had is that the restaurant was performing songs represented by the collective, without the collective’s license.

CC licensed songs are not, presumably licensed by any collective, so a collective cannot complain about the performance of such songs.

Of course, if the restaurant wanted to perform songs licensed by the collective, they would, in theory, need a license from the collective, if with the license the restaurant was made aware of which songs are licensed. Meaning: The licenses are worthless.

In most places the collective’s licenses do not convey song names. Is Spain any different? I doubt it, but if anyone knows any better, say so, please.

Rafael Venegas
http://www.gvenegas.com

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