That’s why I use Yahoo! and rarely use Google. As I understand it, Yahoo! actually uses the Google search engine, but it uses it with different — and I think much more meaningful — search parameters. As much as I am interested in knowing what someone else thinks and likes, when I’m looking for something, I need to find what *I* need to find, and not what someone else thinks is “popular” to have found.

To be clear, I own stock in neither, etc.

FWIW.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> —I see all kinds of reports on the Santangelo case in the mainstream press—

Guess what? That’s the idea. It wasn’t too long ago that the lamescream media totally ignored the non-corporate side of the story. Now they cover it. There’s still a lot to be desired, but it’s an excellent start and Patti and her kids have become recognizable as people just like you and me rather than mere names on a court document.

—but not one of them mentions p2pnet—

No worries : )

Cheers!

” I see all kinds of reports on the Santangelo case in the mainstream press … ”

Wouldn’t that be THEM, ‘ milking ‘ the story as well ?

Of course, it’s more like the RIAA is ‘milking’ the case for any
possible excuse to extend it, in an effort to ‘milk’ all of the
financial resources out of the Santangelos. Most of us understand
this to be a war of Financial Attrition. Besides .. I have seen
absolutely NO mainstream coverage of any of these actual court
cases.

Why is that, I wonder ?

Now consider this …
No mainstream coverage.
Yet still .. WIDESPREAD knowledge of every case.
P2P net = one of few sites that follow these events.

What does THAT tell you

Interestingly, your drug addiction analogy will be used, because you have hit on the exact point, but from an incomplete perspective.

Under any conditions, don’t be so hateful because it’s not good for you as a person, it doesn’t advance your case, and you haven’t seen that kind of hate arising in any posts I’ve written – and I’m the one running Patti’s case.

More later.

From sites like FightGoliath, p2pnet, boingboing, tightpoker and many others (2), from collected pennies to the anonymous $1,000.00 donation (the largest single donation of which I am aware), from the occasional direct check made payable to Patti for this purpose to the unusual donation (like an anonymously delivered ream of paper) (3), we put together a defense that pressured this result.

Spinners will tell you that the RIAA always prefers to go after “the direct infringers,” that this was an inevitable result. Not so. But you already know that. What you may not know is what happened once Patti won the first round of discovery objections: other defendants started pushing back against the RIAA. Not just by filing answers or refusing to cave in to the ham-fisted tactics of the “Settlement Center”, but by actually fighting their cases on the RIAA’s own terms, on its own turf. Defendants saw that they, too, could win, a little piece at a time. And others have picked up where Patti pointed the way, and now they have started an avalanche of additional actions against the aggressors.

I don’t know whether Patti was the first to be committed to go to trial, or the first to answer any discovery – with the RIAA bragging about having over 19,000 cases, who knows who was first about anything. What we all know is what we experienced: Patti stood up in front of the country and said, “this is wrong.” From that platform, we used the same legal process being brought to bear against Patti to defend her. And from the moment the first of the plaintiffs’ discovery demands were dashed and their subsequent appeal denied – from that moment – the tide turned. The inertia built into momentum, and all of you took off as one.

Now Patti faces a new and even greater challenge. Patti’s children are being sued; Robert, who was 12-13 when the alleged actions took place, and Michelle, who was 15-16, are now 16 and 20, respectively. Because several favorable defendant decisions were not available when Patti first started with Ray Beckerman (4), Esq., Patti’s children are starting at a disadvantage, with the RIAA able to use tools it would no longer have readily at its disposal.

The defendants who have stood on the shoulders of the Patti’s work, as she stood on the shoulders of those who came before her, have directly benefitted from the contributions you have made to Patti’s case. New contributions to the case for Patti’s children will have an even greater impact, as you will see when her answer is filed and as this new case marches toward trial.

We have six times as much work to do this time, and we’re starting with no resources whatsoever.

You may have read what I asked you about the type of country in which you want to – or are willing – to live. Now it’s time to answer those questions.

It’s your country. Take it back.

Jordan D. Glass, Esq.

Notes:
1. To be more accurate, the RIAA has filed a “Motion to Dismiss Without Prejudice.” The phrase “Without Prejudice” means that the RIAA is seeking the right to re-file the case at a later time.
2. Source: http://www.northcountrynotes.org/goliath/
3. The package came with a note: “Paper them to death, just like they’re doing to you.”
4. Ray Beckerman, Esq., probably deserves the title of “father of the defense movement” in this field, along with his partner, Ty Rogers, Esq. They run the website, “Recording Industry vs The People”. See: http://recordingindustryvspeople.blogspot.com

Also is it fair the double exposure if the suit against Santangelo is refiled?

When a person is sued, their world is shaken up, money has to be raised and lawyers have to be hired. Is is fair that because of someone’s legal strategy Santangelo have to go through the grinder again?

Does anyone want to live in a country where such things happen?

Or should the Society For the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals look over the court system rules, as it appears that no one else (affectively) does?

Rafael Venegas
http://www.gvenegas.com

I hope one day to be put on a jury to decide in a case like this. And just beacuse the RIAA defends it’s rights, does not make them a terrorist. In fact, I would have to say that your tactics border more on terrorism than thiers!

Hope you guys lose your butts and the lady goes to jail…she needs to watch her kids…it’s no one’s responsibility but hers…

They want everyone to settle anyways, going the extensive lengths for a court case ain’t going to get them nowhere. They want their free courtless $3000 and only that!

Well done.

Morg