p2pnet - rss feed: New RIAA attack on Michelle Santangelo
p2pnet.net News:- The Big 4 Organized Music cartel’s RIAA abandoned its case against Patti Santangelo, now turning its full attention on two of her children, Michelle, 20, Bobby, 16, accusing them of being illegal distributors of copyrighted music online, the same charges they’d levelled at Patti, but failed to prove.
Accordingly, they’d agreed a discovery schedule with the Santangelo’s pro bono lawyer, Jordan Glass.
It was slated to be wound up in September, 2007, but now out of the blue, the RIAA (Recording Industry Association of America) is demanding a default judgment, says Recording Industry vs The People.
The Big 4, Warner Music (US), EMI (Britain), Vivendi Universal (France) and Sony BMG (Japan and Germany), are capable of almost any kind of infamy in their efforts to both subjugate their customers and gain total control of how, and by whom, music is distributed online, using legal systems around the world as their means.
It could be said that technically, Michele and Bobby are in default, but having agreed a detailed list of discovery dates, it’s hard to believe the RIAA would suddenly do a total reversal and demand that an immediate ruling be made.
Sharp practice or a mistake? Or is it simply the left hand doesn’t know knowing what the right is doing?
Meanwhile, it’s worth noting Bobby was only 12-13 and Michelle, 15-16 when the infringements, mis-characterised by the RIAA as ‘crimes,’ were supposed to have taken place.
Stay tuned.
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Also See:
Recording Industry vs The People - RIAA Moves for Default Judgment Against Patti Santangelo’s Daughter, December 21, 2005
abandoned its case - RIAA drops Santangelo p2p case, October 27, 2006
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December 21st, 2006 at 9:18 pm
That’s great. Now instead of Patti they go after her daughter. I bet she wishes she could have settled when they had the chance…
December 21st, 2006 at 11:17 pm
No actually.
To read some of her own statements, she doesn’t.
So you are saying the proper course of action is to cower down
and allow corporate abuse of our legal system ?
So you are saying that it’s ok that a wealthy entity can usurp
the law and bully people into settling without any proof of
damages, let alone proof of illegal activity, simply because they
have the financial resources to do it ?
The more people fight, the more it is being shown just how little
the RIAA actually have to stand on.
All of this WILL be over, and the RIAA will lose.
If they don’t lose their cases, they WILL lose all of their ‘valued’
customers.
December 21st, 2006 at 11:56 pm
I find it staggering that that Big 4 are allowed to get away with this kind of thing, but I predict that it will not go on for much longer. It is now dealing with people who are sickened by it and who are also in touch with each other. Think about what that means, Big 4.
December 22nd, 2006 at 12:08 am
I used to buy their junky CDs and DVDs all the time, especially around xmas. But since they’ve started terrorizing people I’ve stopped cold.
For the past 3 years I haven’t bought a single CD, concert ticket, or any of that crap that supports corporate media monopolies. And I’ve shared these stories of RIAA terrorism with many friends who have also stopped supporting these corporate scumbags. I’ve even stopped subscribing to cable/ppv because some of that money goes to the same corporations perpetrating this nightmare.
I figure I’m withholding well over $1000 per year from these terrorists.
So, screw you RIAA. I hope you all starve to death.
December 22nd, 2006 at 12:18 am
A corporate RIAA terrorist couldn’t have said it better…
‘Obey us like gods or we will attack your children.’
I’m sure that’s the strategy being used by the RIAA in this case. And they want you to be afraid of them victimizing your children too. It’s how terrorism works.
Amerikkkans like to use this tactic all the time, domestically and abroad. In Abu-Girab they would rape and torture children in front of their parents to make them ‘confess’ to whatever. IT’S TRUE just google up Seymore Hersh’s account of it.
Nothing like making a child squeal like a piglet in agony in order to control the parents.
I am disgusted by what our species is capable of. I can only hope some of the bloated stuffed-shirts behind all this meet an appropriate fate befitting a terrorist.
December 22nd, 2006 at 6:11 am
I stll don’t see how the RIAA can SUE underage people. No one else can, what makes them different?
December 22nd, 2006 at 1:41 pm
I see all kinds of reports on the Santangelo case in the mainstream press but not one of them mentions p2pnet which has been milking the stroy for all its worth. That should tell you something, Newton.
December 22nd, 2006 at 3:36 pm
In American courts anything goes. See how ridiculous it gets here:
FUSTÉ OVERLOOKS THE $1,000,000 SONY-SONOLUX-LAMCO PARTNERSHIP INFRINGEMENT
http://rafa_venegas.web.prdigital.com/fuste_overlooks_sony_sonolux_records.htm
December 22nd, 2006 at 3:39 pm
“Amerikkkans like to use this tactic all the time, domestically and abroad. In Abu-Girab they would rape and torture children in front of their parents to make them ‘confess’ to whatever. IT’S TRUE just google up Seymore Hersh’s account of it. ”
Kind of like Iraqi’s sawing a mans head off while he is alive and
conscious, for the camera, so his family can suffer too.
America does not have a monopoly on cruelty.
December 22nd, 2006 at 3:41 pm
.. it will continue until one of the judges is actually CAUGHT taking
the corporate payoff.
December 22nd, 2006 at 3:43 pm
Hi Gachnar,
What exactly does that tell us ??
lol
December 22nd, 2006 at 4:54 pm
—I see all kinds of reports on the Santangelo case in the mainstream press—
Guess what? That’s the idea. It wasn’t too long ago that the lamescream media totally ignored the non-corporate side of the story. Now they cover it. There’s still a lot to be desired, but it’s an excellent start and Patti and her kids have become recognizable as people just like you and me rather than mere names on a court document.
—but not one of them mentions p2pnet—
No worries : )
Cheers!
December 22nd, 2006 at 4:55 pm
We at the RIAA would like to wish all our special friends a Merry Christmas and happy holidays
To all the Judges whose pockets we have lined, thank you for all the great rulings.
To the politicians who we help to stay in office via huge cash donations, good work and keep at it! We’ll get that analog hole bill passed yet!
To all the musicians who loudly protest about piracy, while never once complaining about signing away their rights to us for all their work and getting 10 cents per CD. If not for you we would not be where we are today. Keep focusing on the music and leave all the business decisions to us, because we care.
And last but not least, a very special shout to all the corporate shills who spend tireless hours trolling p2p sites and forums making sure our view is heard. WE LOVE YOU!!
December 22nd, 2006 at 6:03 pm
Ya Right! Only an RIAA drone can make this type of comment!
Patti is an herro and she will be vindicated! While for you tell your friend parasites at the RIAA and also tell their lawer that they are playing with fire and that soon you pieces of crap will be the one that wishes they never started all these mean insanity! I know some people meaner than you and with more balls and if I was you I will start running now.
December 22nd, 2006 at 6:11 pm
Then why are *you* reading p2pnet if you’re not interested?
Please advise what it is that you think the non-coverage should tell Mr. Newton and the rest of us. I’m interested in learning your view.
If Mr. Newton were concerned about the non-coverage, odds are he’d drop it and do something else.
Consider this: Mr. Newton does not delete opposing views. At a minimum, that evidences that he (and the site) is open to honest debate, even if he (and many of his readers) have a particular point of view that they are promoting.
You are probably familiar with grass roots campaigns. How else do you expect the message to get out there, even if you disagree with it? You are availing yourself of it to get your message out there — as you should. Keep the debate going, regardless of your view — that’s what’s important. Just keep it civil, that way the message doesn’t get lost because of the delivery style.
December 22nd, 2006 at 6:11 pm
Ya Right! Only an RIAA drone can make this type of comment!
Patti is an herro and she will be vindicated! While for you tell your friend parasites at the RIAA and also tell their lawer that they are playing with fire and that soon you pieces of crap will be the one that wishes they never started all these mean insanity! I know some people meaner than you and with more balls and if I was you I will start running now.
December 23rd, 2006 at 6:05 am
“Kind of like Iraqi’s sawing a mans head off while he is alive and
conscious, for the camera, so his family can suffer too.”
Well, that makes the wholesale invasion and destruction of the entire country and it’s society fine then. ‘They cut people’s heads off!’ Well then bomb, torture and starve them all!
“America does not have a monopoly on cruelty.”
In America they have institutionalized it to a level higher than very few other societies. Being up their with the likes of China, Russia and 1930s Germany in terms of systemic abuses of human rights must make the citizens proud. Oh wait I forgot ‘9/11 changed everything’.
And if you want to split hairs, I suggest that publicly cutting off an invaders head in a desperate attempt to scare other invaders away when your country is being crushed by a foreign superpower is not even on the same moral plane as torturing an innocent child in order to extract a confession from the parent.
If what happened in Haditha happened in your neighborhood you’d be out looking to slaughter the nearest occupier too. How about if your family died under an invader’s bombs? How about if the children in your family were shot execution-style by soldiers during a home invasion?
Oh, wait, ‘they cut people’s heads off’, so it’s justified, I forgot. And people never saw other people up in America of course, only Arabs do that, because they’re savages.
Sorry, the only people that fall for the ‘well, they chop people’s heads off’ hit and run talking point are the folks over on the Fox News blogs.
December 23rd, 2006 at 2:59 pm
” Sorry, the only people that fall for the ‘well, they chop people’s heads off’ hit and run talking point are the folks over on the Fox News blogs. ”
Sorry,
the only people who fall for the ‘ evil american empire deserves
to have thousands of innocent people killed ‘ are the ones that
cut off the heads of living americans and call it justified.
I can make non-sequitors too.
The, ‘if you don’t agree with me than you’re stupid, or one of
‘them’ is a pretty cheap shot.
“Well, that makes the wholesale invasion and destruction of the entire country and it’s society fine then. ‘They cut people’s heads off!’ Well then bomb, torture and starve them all! ”
If their planes did not hit our towers, we might never have gone in.
Granted, lied about WMD and such, but ….
Had there planes NEVER HIT OUR TOWERS, King George would
never had such a wonderful excuse to do what he did.
“In America they have institutionalized it to a level higher than very few other societies. Being up their with the likes of China, Russia and 1930s Germany in terms of systemic abuses of human rights must make the citizens proud. ”
Please, cite your sources.
I’ll expect that their not the ‘National Enquirer’. I’d love to see
your proof of these claims.
” If what happened in Haditha happened in your neighborhood you’d be out looking to slaughter the nearest occupier too. How about if your family died under an invader’s bombs? ”
Or if they died in a skyscraper, minding their own business, just
living their daily lives, or died in a plane that was deliberately
crashed into a building while just trying to go on vacation ?
Two sides of every coin.
Are you telling me that we deserved that, because of the
imperialistic swine we are ??
I fear you more that King George.
December 25th, 2006 at 6:12 am
The previous message shows how well controlled the population is.
I thought the Iraq war was about WMDs? Oh, whoops, that was a proven lie. So, shift gears and say it was about 9.11, because since brown people did 9.11, ALL brown people are guilty, right?
This person hasn’t a clue about what happened on 9.11 beyond what the very same people who profit from the war have told him. But it sure is good to use in hit and run talking points as is being demonstrated.
I bet he’s one of the 70% of Americans that think Saddam Hussein was behind the 9.11 attacks.
But, as was posted earlier, and this fellow demonstrates, ‘9/11 changed everything.’ Exactly, every loon out there started screaming for bloody revenge against the nearest person the gov’t pointed the finger at. Mold the facts to fit the agenda, and that agenda is take revenge on every man, woman, and child in the middle-east.
Guess what pal, the people that have been killed under US bombs and executed by US soldiers ARE INNOCENT. They have nothing to do with your 9.11 hysteria. What happened to WMDs? Oh, forgot about that one? No, the gov’t doesn’t lie to start wars, do they…. And they don’t profit from them either, right?
If you think there’s no systematic human rights abuses being committed by US forces in the middle-east, how about you do some research, starting with what happened in Haditha, and go from there. There are THOUSANDS of incidents of civilians being raped, tortured, killed.
I guess what happened in Abu-Ghraib was just something the Enquirer made up, right?
People like that are what make nightmares like this possible. Thanks for not thinking. Keep watching Fox News. Obey your masters. Enjoy your holidays.
December 25th, 2006 at 6:40 am
QUOTE>
If their planes did not hit our towers, we might never have gone in.
Granted, lied about WMD and such, but ….
Had there planes NEVER HIT OUR TOWERS, King George would
never had such a wonderful excuse to do what he did.
<ENDQUOTE
Are you serious? Who’s planes? Iraqis flew the planes into the buildings huh? Well, the skin colour was close enough, so time to slaughter an entire nation of people, seems justified.
QUOTE>
“In America they have institutionalized it to a level higher than very few other societies. Being up their with the likes of China, Russia and 1930s Germany in terms of systemic abuses of human rights must make the citizens proud. ” Please, cite your sources.
I’ll expect that their not the ‘National Enquirer’. I’d love to see
your proof of these claims.
<ENDQUOTE
WOW it’s amazing how deluded some people are. Want to see some abuse? I guess all these photos must have been photoshopped by alquida…
http://www.thememoryhole.org/war/iraqis_tortured/
http://www.albasrah.net/images/iraqi-pow/iraqi-pow1.htm
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/06/07/iraq.probes/index.html
It’s amazing how people want ‘proof’ when it goes against their gov’t ordained belief system, but when it’s a claim like ‘the Iraqis are going to attack us any second with WMDs and we want to invade’, no proof is needed whatsoever. Just go in and kill kill kill no proof needed.
You should fear yourself more than ‘King George’. You are a toolbox.
My only comfort is the fact that the US economy is continuing to spiral down into the abyss (want proof again? OK,
http://quotes.ino.com/chart/?s=NYBOT_DX&v=d12
), and the typical Fox-News worshipper is going to end up spending their free time in a bread-line. The very wars that these knucked-draggers supported will be the ones that ruin their economy and their standard of living. Couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch of killers.