The only reason a mac computer comes with good hardware is because they don’t let anyone else produce their drivers and you’ve gotto stick with what they create.

also i’ve seen an apple crach and what a big joke .. the screen gets all flashy and animated…. and displays a message saying “Your mac has crashed… please restart….” I mean What the ****…. why in any world would a computer shows a crach message…. Its crashed for goodness sake….. in a pc… atleast you know the PC has tried hard to overcome it…. it don’t show stupid messages….

I’ve seen windows machines crash, reboot, freeze up, fatal exception, blue screen, and fail in inumerable ways for 11 years. The ratio of PC failures to macintosh failures is FAR, FAR greater on any given day, on any given scale. I’ve seen a couple of macintosh bomb screens in my life in all the OS’s from 7 to 9.1. I’ve seen 4 or 5 bombs, tops. One of them was because I made the mistake of plugging in a scsi device while the machine was still on. Compare that to the literally hundreds of thousands of failures on the wintel platform I’ve witnessed. People who think that even the oldest mac OS could not hold up to a windows PC of today have far too little experience running both platforms simultaneously. Macintosh holds up, stability wise and performance wise to a PC, on any given day. I would bet money that a 6100 running system 7.5 could run a webserver without crashing longer than a PC of today could.

I am not saying that PC’s dont have the capability of being great. I’m not trying to say that PC users are idiots. I’m simply saying that when it comes to comparing the Operating systems, windows versus MacOS(any flavor), anyone who thinks that windows is a “better” OS is devoid of any intelligence.

Running Linux or an alternative, stable OS on a PC is the only thing that makes a PC comparable to the macintosh platform. Just my two cents. Trying to argue that wintel machines are better than Macs is akin to saying that car accidents are better than safe driving.

You’re all stupid.

This artical, as well as ALL of its replys are pointless.

First: This has nothing to do with P2P, so if anyone really has an argument about this they can go to a chat room and cry like a little girl (I mean no offence to little girls) about the subject.

Second: I personally use all (major) OS’s and I beleve that they are ALL equal in their own way. It’s all based on preference and what you want to do. If you like a certian type of computer or OS use it, don’t bitch about what other people prefer. Becides, most people who complain about anoth OS/Brand have (A) never used it before and have no Idea what their talking about, (B) Used it once or twice at a stupid friends house and they were to ignorant or lazy to learn somthing new, or (C) the used it at a school or library and were too stupid to understand that they use out of date machines with heavy security on them.

Third: All companies hype their products (It’s called advertizement morons), and all computer companies are all run by heartless CEO’s who just want money. So going back and forth whinning about what one company said or did is quite stupid.

Fourth: Stop pretending that because you use a certian OS/Computer that the company who makes it is a god and everyone else is the devil (I Mean non offence to any religion/cult that believes that any OS/Company actually is the devil). If you really want somthing to cry about build you own computer and program your own OS.

If Anyone wants to whine or cry (or send me a premade virus because you can’t make one yoursel) because of what I said they can contact me at hellmaster_draco@hotmail.com, because I’m probably not going to come bact to this website to listen to idiots whine.

– HellMaster Draco -

As for the point of this story (and I actually neglected to comment on it, originally), I thought that it was dumb of Jobs to say such things as “we’ve caught up with the PC — and passed them”. And the “world’s first 64 bit desktop” isn’t worth the grief, either. Yes, there were no 64 bit computers available TO THE MASSES until the G5 Powermac came out (try going to best Buy and purchasing a 64 bit system). Nor are there EVEN STILL no POPULAR x86 platform running on 64 bit hardware. Windows64 is a beta and can only run on AMD and Intel is nowhere in deploying a 64 bit FOR THE DESKTOP. What’s interesting however, is that Intel is RETREATING from the MHz war because THEY KNOW it doesn’t matter and that 64 bit systems run efficiently at lower MHz, right? RIGHT.

As for the speed of the G5, various independent tests have shown it to be faster and slower than x86. Benchmarking is a dark art, and all the manufacturers are going to skew their tests, right? RIGHT. The bottom line is that the G5 processor is FAST, Apple’s Powermac architecture is ADVANCED, and Mac OS X — not just Free BSD alone — is an awesome computing environment. All that totals up to an excellent, efficient and “uncumbersome” computing experience.

I’ve come across many “switchers” both online and personally who were previous hardcore PC builders and tweakers. Why did they switch?? Because, based on their insights gained from dealing with the guts of the x86 platform, they had the insight to assess the Mac platform, accurately. What they found they liked and they moved. That won’t happen in every case, and if you dig the x86 platform, more power to ya. But there’s more to the mac platform than “running Free BSD on your PC”. That’s one comment that I HAD TO respond to. Like PUUULEEZE!

BTW, check out Anandtech’s life with a Mac for a month. His verdict? He really likes it, he’s keeping the dual 2GHz G5 Powermac and will be maintaining the Anandtech website with it (HORRORS!) AND will also be starting a Mac forum AT THE SITE! BLASPHEMY!!!

Odd how he simply didn’t install Free BSD on his PC… /SARCASM

tru, tru….:)

Check around re Apples quality and OSX, fact one of the previous post in this story points out some problems to the impenetrable Mac.

An OS 10.3 security flaw?
p2pnet.net, Canada – 22 Mar 2004
… OS X is “a version of Unix, with an Apple personality on top … Because the Unix code has … public for so long, hackers are well positioned to exploit its weaknesses …

right off this site too, educate yourself before opening your moronic mouth.
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more?

DDoS Vulnerability
InternetNews.com, United States – 2 Mar 2004
iDEFENSE originally discovered the exploit Jan … A representative from Apple told internetnews.com the company was … today, is based on a version of UNIX created by …

How Secure Is OS X?
NewsFactor Network – 22 Mar 2004
… a version of Unix, with an Apple personality on … vulnerabilities for OS X. Because the Unix code has … long, hackers are well positioned to exploit its weaknesses …

Dude, you coulda fried the motherboard…Youre lucky you didnt !! both times !! LOL !! and its pretty rare (methinks) when you’ll find one on ebay to replace it !!

I made the same mistake on my old Quadra 605, only THAT motherboard wasnt so forgiving ! <*sniff*>

I finally retired both my 61s ( 6100/66 & 6100/60) because of Ram restrictions… but, both still have OS 9.1 on their trusty hard drives !!

A lot of smack has been said about Apple marketshare…. or lack thereof… but no one considers those of us who keep these Classic gems around, while being very productive too !!

I bet there are a helluva lot more old Macs surfing the internet and providing trouble-free service, than old PeeCees !!

I think the powerbook will stay up and running indefinetely…and the 8600
while its only 7 years old might run forever !!

Oh…. how many 7 year old Dells are still up and running ??

and…. do you have your anti-virus software updated ??

I havent seen mine since SevenDust 666…and that was….uhhh 5 or 6 years ago ??