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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/10879/comment-page-1#comment-134454</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/10879/comment-page-1#comment-131964</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 06:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i use ubuntu linux , and with this firefox extension , it works fine --&gt;
http://lxer.com/module/forums/t/24402/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i use ubuntu linux , and with this firefox extension , it works fine &#8211;&gt;<br />
<a href="http://lxer.com/module/forums/t/24402/" rel="nofollow">http://lxer.com/module/forums/t/24402/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/10879/comment-page-1#comment-131867</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jan 2007 06:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dont think those codecs you speak of are legal</description>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/10879/comment-page-1#comment-131857</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jan 2007 01:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the problem is that if you are using the win32 codec in linux you are forced to beaking the law because it violates some patent witch belongs to microsoft
So by not providing a free format for there webcast the EU is not only discriminating Linux and bsd users, they also forces us to break the patent law of EU
btw i also think its a bit of a dubble moral that EU is accusing Microsoft for using illigal practesis and supporting the development of OSS 
and on the other hand they discriminates linux users from wieving there webcasts witch is a public and a democracy thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the problem is that if you are using the win32 codec in linux you are forced to beaking the law because it violates some patent witch belongs to microsoft<br />
So by not providing a free format for there webcast the EU is not only discriminating Linux and bsd users, they also forces us to break the patent law of EU<br />
btw i also think its a bit of a dubble moral that EU is accusing Microsoft for using illigal practesis and supporting the development of OSS<br />
and on the other hand they discriminates linux users from wieving there webcasts witch is a public and a democracy thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/10879/comment-page-1#comment-131835</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2007 18:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>..</description>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/10879/comment-page-1#comment-131826</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2007 16:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>whoops, wrong parent</description>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2007 16:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, too bad mplayer needs wmv9dmod.dll which is *NOT* open source to play these streams. You&#039;ll find it contained in your &quot;essential codecs&quot; package, along with a whole slew of binary only windows codecs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, too bad mplayer needs wmv9dmod.dll which is *NOT* open source to play these streams. You&#8217;ll find it contained in your &#8220;essential codecs&#8221; package, along with a whole slew of binary only windows codecs.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2007 16:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, too bad mplayer needs wmv9dmod.dll which is *NOT* open source to play these streams. You&#039;ll find it contained in your &quot;essential codecs&quot; package, along with a whole slew of binary only windows codecs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, too bad mplayer needs wmv9dmod.dll which is *NOT* open source to play these streams. You&#8217;ll find it contained in your &#8220;essential codecs&#8221; package, along with a whole slew of binary only windows codecs.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2007 05:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Under Firefox add the &quot;User Agent Switcher&quot; extension and identify your browser as IE under XP. Also have MPlayer plugin and w32codecs installed. The streams play quite happily under Linux using this method. I agree that you should not have to do this, but the same problem occurs all over the web, often because over zealous web developers insist on getting your Windows Media Player version prior to sending the stream. This is unnecessary - it plays or it does not. It makes them feel good for a job well done, but locks out Linux/BSD users for absolutely no reason.
It is ironic that the EU who continually battle Microsoft&#039;s monopoly are doing their dirty work for them, probably without the politicians even knowing it.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Under Firefox add the &#8220;User Agent Switcher&#8221; extension and identify your browser as IE under XP. Also have MPlayer plugin and w32codecs installed. The streams play quite happily under Linux using this method. I agree that you should not have to do this, but the same problem occurs all over the web, often because over zealous web developers insist on getting your Windows Media Player version prior to sending the stream. This is unnecessary &#8211; it plays or it does not. It makes them feel good for a job well done, but locks out Linux/BSD users for absolutely no reason.<br />
It is ironic that the EU who continually battle Microsoft&#8217;s monopoly are doing their dirty work for them, probably without the politicians even knowing it.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2007 04:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see what the big ol&#039; deal is here... just install some freakin&#039; codecs.

I just went to that link and browsed the archives and everything played just fine, nice and smooth.

I&#039;m using Fedora Core 6, Firefox 2.x, MPlayer, MPlayer essential codecs pack, and finally the MPlayer-plugin which plays the embeds in Firefox.

While the codec that is being used by that web-site may be proprietary, is certainly is not a problem to play in many Linux distros using open-source codecs.  I find I can actually play MORE stuff with MPlayer than I can in Windows Media Player (which BTW I also can run in Linux thanks to WINE win32 emulation.)

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see what the big ol&#8217; deal is here&#8230; just install some freakin&#8217; codecs.</p>
<p>I just went to that link and browsed the archives and everything played just fine, nice and smooth.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m using Fedora Core 6, Firefox 2.x, MPlayer, MPlayer essential codecs pack, and finally the MPlayer-plugin which plays the embeds in Firefox.</p>
<p>While the codec that is being used by that web-site may be proprietary, is certainly is not a problem to play in many Linux distros using open-source codecs.  I find I can actually play MORE stuff with MPlayer than I can in Windows Media Player (which BTW I also can run in Linux thanks to WINE win32 emulation.)</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2007 04:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Under Firefox add the &quot;User Agent Switcher&quot; extension and identify your browser as IE under XP. Also have MPlayer plugin and w32codecs installed. The streams play quite happily under Linux using this method. I agree that you should not have to do this, but the same problem occurs all over the web, often because over zealous web developers insist on getting your Windows Media Player version prior to sending the stream. This is unnecessary - it plays or it does not. It makes them feel good for a job well done, but locks out Linux/BSD users for absolutely no reason.
It is ironic that the EU who continually battle Microsoft&#039;s monopoly are doing their dirty work for them, probably without the politicians even knowing it.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Under Firefox add the &#8220;User Agent Switcher&#8221; extension and identify your browser as IE under XP. Also have MPlayer plugin and w32codecs installed. The streams play quite happily under Linux using this method. I agree that you should not have to do this, but the same problem occurs all over the web, often because over zealous web developers insist on getting your Windows Media Player version prior to sending the stream. This is unnecessary &#8211; it plays or it does not. It makes them feel good for a job well done, but locks out Linux/BSD users for absolutely no reason.<br />
It is ironic that the EU who continually battle Microsoft&#8217;s monopoly are doing their dirty work for them, probably without the politicians even knowing it.</p>
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