Comments on: The Pirates of Osan http://www.p2pnet.net/story/10890 p2pnet.net - reader powered Wed, 01 Feb 2012 15:11:09 -0300 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/10890/comment-page-1#comment-1060261 Reader's Write Tue, 12 Apr 2011 01:32:57 +0000 #comment-1060261 I understand this is an old article, but coming from someone who's about to do his second tour to Osan in three years, I just wanna say this... who cares? Like some people have already said, the fact that this stuff isn't authentic is public knowledge. I have no problem buying replica watches, handbags for the wife, etc. Why? Tell you what, when Rolex watches stop costing thousands upon thousands of dollars, I'll buy the real thing. Until then, anyone can voice their concerns to my non-six-figure-earning ass. I understand this is an old article, but coming from someone who’s about to do his second tour to Osan in three years, I just wanna say this… who cares?

Like some people have already said, the fact that this stuff isn’t authentic is public knowledge. I have no problem buying replica watches, handbags for the wife, etc.

Why? Tell you what, when Rolex watches stop costing thousands upon thousands of dollars, I’ll buy the real thing. Until then, anyone can voice their concerns to my non-six-figure-earning ass.

]]> By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/10890/comment-page-1#comment-1011757 Reader's Write Sun, 09 May 2010 15:35:43 +0000 #comment-1011757 I was at this base during the same time frame that this officer was stationed there. The reason this corruption exists, is simply because Korean society and the Korean government is blatantly, and thoroughly corrupt. Business in that region of the world is morally bankrupt, and has been for thousands of years. It shows no signs of getting better, and the legislation over there simply does not care what a business made of up foreigners (Wegukin) think. Why? Koreans are loyal to their own race. That is the only loyalty they have. Within their own race, they have loyalty to their social class first, their career path second, and their family third. You rarely saw pirated Korean films out on these racks. Why? Because they were 1) Catering toward americans, and 2) Korean films are a bit more taboo for them to pirate. In their eyes they are only stealing if it is a Korean product. The Korean Business Owners association, and the Korean Bar Owners association are run by the Korean Mob. They make the majority of their money by playing and manipulating the exchange rate in the local area, human trafficking, counterfeit goods, manipulation of the cost of running a business, and extortion of business owners. This is a widely known fact among the Koreans, and myself being fluent in Korean, but a foreigner, it took me over a year and a half of friendship with a local bar owner to make her comfortable enough to talk about it. Koreans are notorious for this kind of thing, and the reason the big movie companies can't do a thing about it, is because unlike most Americans have been trained to think, these corporations are NOT able to police the entire world. The united states has no jurisdiction besides political sanction, and frankly, Korea produces a majority of the semi-conductors that go in our electronics. We sanction them, they take a small loss in profit, while we take a massive hit from our electronics and phone industries suddenly being massively expensive. As for Air Force corruption, it's mostly on the DOD side, and not really on the Officer side of things. This officer obviously was a complete idiot. If he had any evidence, the USAF would be forced to move on it to cover their ass, and if he did have evidence, he could not lose his career, or he'd have further evidence of corruption. The Air Force has made strong stances on prostitution (though its still rampant), and black marketing (buying American goods at the base, then selling downtown for profit). And bars do get shut down for obvious prostitution and drug violations (though drugs aren't common in Korea). The real problem, is that the institution that runs the local area, is corrupt, and just shuts down the bar, taking the owner's deposit, then sells the space to another owner, thus making a double-profit, and maintaining their monthly income for that estate. This officer obviously didn't come into too much sense, as he clearly missed the fact that he should have outed his command for illegal contributions and patronage, and at the same time, turned a blind eye to what happens off base. Instead, he did things the opposite. It's not the Air Force's mission to clean up all crime in South Korea. It is their mission to protect South Korea from North Korea, and it is their mission to keep their people safe. The Air Force does a very good job of both. If they could just fix the problems with corruption ON base, life would be pretty nice. I was at this base during the same time frame that this officer was stationed there.

The reason this corruption exists, is simply because Korean society and the Korean government is blatantly, and thoroughly corrupt. Business in that region of the world is morally bankrupt, and has been for thousands of years. It shows no signs of getting better, and the legislation over there simply does not care what a business made of up foreigners (Wegukin) think.

Why? Koreans are loyal to their own race. That is the only loyalty they have. Within their own race, they have loyalty to their social class first, their career path second, and their family third.

You rarely saw pirated Korean films out on these racks. Why? Because they were 1) Catering toward americans, and 2) Korean films are a bit more taboo for them to pirate. In their eyes they are only stealing if it is a Korean product.

The Korean Business Owners association, and the Korean Bar Owners association are run by the Korean Mob. They make the majority of their money by playing and manipulating the exchange rate in the local area, human trafficking, counterfeit goods, manipulation of the cost of running a business, and extortion of business owners. This is a widely known fact among the Koreans, and myself being fluent in Korean, but a foreigner, it took me over a year and a half of friendship with a local bar owner to make her comfortable enough to talk about it.

Koreans are notorious for this kind of thing, and the reason the big movie companies can’t do a thing about it, is because unlike most Americans have been trained to think, these corporations are NOT able to police the entire world. The united states has no jurisdiction besides political sanction, and frankly, Korea produces a majority of the semi-conductors that go in our electronics. We sanction them, they take a small loss in profit, while we take a massive hit from our electronics and phone industries suddenly being massively expensive.

As for Air Force corruption, it’s mostly on the DOD side, and not really on the Officer side of things. This officer obviously was a complete idiot. If he had any evidence, the USAF would be forced to move on it to cover their ass, and if he did have evidence, he could not lose his career, or he’d have further evidence of corruption. The Air Force has made strong stances on prostitution (though its still rampant), and black marketing (buying American goods at the base, then selling downtown for profit). And bars do get shut down for obvious prostitution and drug violations (though drugs aren’t common in Korea). The real problem, is that the institution that runs the local area, is corrupt, and just shuts down the bar, taking the owner’s deposit, then sells the space to another owner, thus making a double-profit, and maintaining their monthly income for that estate.

This officer obviously didn’t come into too much sense, as he clearly missed the fact that he should have outed his command for illegal contributions and patronage, and at the same time, turned a blind eye to what happens off base. Instead, he did things the opposite. It’s not the Air Force’s mission to clean up all crime in South Korea. It is their mission to protect South Korea from North Korea, and it is their mission to keep their people safe. The Air Force does a very good job of both. If they could just fix the problems with corruption ON base, life would be pretty nice.

]]> By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/10890/comment-page-1#comment-845062 Reader's Write Fri, 17 Oct 2008 09:34:26 +0000 #comment-845062 This is pretty interesting. Right on the money. I'm at Osan now. Nothing seems to have changed much. You have to ask to see the fake Rolex watches. Lots of pirate Xbox games now though. I guess MPAA and Microsoft don't care. The Air Force doesn't care. I don't care. The Chickenhead bar is legend around here in a good way. They weren't illegal bars. They didn't do illegal stuff. They just didn't pay a bribe to a dirty Air Force cop and the base tried to cover it up. But there is lots of dirty stuff here. We just had a black marketing crackdown. Mostly they pestered GIs not to buy an extra case of beer and ignored the Koreans with cartloads of beef and rice. Good luck getting anyone to care about what goes on in Songtan unless the MPAA or somebody makes a stink and they think their career will get a boost by having a big crackdown. This is pretty interesting. Right on the money.

I’m at Osan now. Nothing seems to have changed much. You have to ask to see the fake Rolex watches. Lots of pirate Xbox games now though. I guess MPAA and Microsoft don’t care. The Air Force doesn’t care. I don’t care.

The Chickenhead bar is legend around here in a good way. They weren’t illegal bars. They didn’t do illegal stuff. They just didn’t pay a bribe to a dirty Air Force cop and the base tried to cover it up. But there is lots of dirty stuff here. We just had a black marketing crackdown. Mostly they pestered GIs not to buy an extra case of beer and ignored the Koreans with cartloads of beef and rice. Good luck getting anyone to care about what goes on in Songtan unless the MPAA or somebody makes a stink and they think their career will get a boost by having a big crackdown.

]]> By: V http://www.p2pnet.net/story/10890/comment-page-1#comment-283834 V Sat, 19 Jan 2008 13:20:23 +0000 #comment-283834 Dont forget about the "morale" drives that most over seas military bases use. These usually contain anywhere from 200-500 Gig of music, movies, games and other programs that any GI can access and download for their own use. Dont forget about the “morale” drives that most over seas military bases use. These usually contain anywhere from 200-500 Gig of music, movies, games and other programs that any GI can access and download for their own use.

]]> By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/10890/comment-page-1#comment-243199 Reader's Write Thu, 20 Dec 2007 00:39:25 +0000 #comment-243199 This is some funny stuff. I'm here at Osan and I hang out at the bars, keep my eyes open and talk to a lot of people. I have a few comments on the other comments. If anyone cares, copied DVDs, knock-off watches, chipped PlayStations/copied games, fake handbags, prostitutes and human trafficking of Filipina bargirls are all common knowledge and all in the open. You can see it the moment you walk out the main gate. ALL of the customers are American military with a few English teachers that come in to party on weekends. Nobody can deny this. I haven't seen anything for myself (except for town patrol being very friendly with many bargirls) but Korean bar owners verify that this all continues because of payoffs to bigwigs on Osan Air Base. I can believe this. The MPAA, RIAA, etc., are still chasing the little guys instead of stopping this. It's true. Osan puts a lot of stuff on blanket off-limits (barber shops and pharmacies were mentioned). They could do it for DVD carts. I honestly wonder why the MPAA hasn't asked the Air Force in a friendly way to discourage buying copied DVDs and encourage buying real DVDs at the BX. Something isn't right. On the other hand, I haven't paid to see a movie since I have been here and I no longer buy DVDs. Actually, I will never buy them again. Screw 'em. If nobody cares, I'm going to suck it dry while I can. This is some funny stuff. I’m here at Osan and I hang out at the bars, keep my eyes open and talk to a lot of people. I have a few comments on the other comments.

If anyone cares, copied DVDs, knock-off watches, chipped PlayStations/copied games, fake handbags, prostitutes and human trafficking of Filipina bargirls are all common knowledge and all in the open. You can see it the moment you walk out the main gate. ALL of the customers are American military with a few English teachers that come in to party on weekends. Nobody can deny this.

I haven’t seen anything for myself (except for town patrol being very friendly with many bargirls) but Korean bar owners verify that this all continues because of payoffs to bigwigs on Osan Air Base. I can believe this.

The MPAA, RIAA, etc., are still chasing the little guys instead of stopping this. It’s true. Osan puts a lot of stuff on blanket off-limits (barber shops and pharmacies were mentioned). They could do it for DVD carts. I honestly wonder why the MPAA hasn’t asked the Air Force in a friendly way to discourage buying copied DVDs and encourage buying real DVDs at the BX. Something isn’t right.

On the other hand, I haven’t paid to see a movie since I have been here and I no longer buy DVDs. Actually, I will never buy them again. Screw ‘em. If nobody cares, I’m going to suck it dry while I can.

]]> By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/10890/comment-page-1#comment-132084 Reader's Write Thu, 11 Jan 2007 19:15:27 +0000 #comment-132084 this is funny!!! this is the full story http://www.lostnomad.org/?p=3972#comments haid is hitting back at military corruption and making the mpaa look like fools at same time. pretty convincing and funny I hope somebody official investigates what he says. lots of people hate him for attacking the military but nobody said he is wrong. I think some heads are going to roll in the air force over this. this is funny!!! this is the full story

http://www.lostnomad.org/?p=3972#comments

haid is hitting back at military corruption and making the mpaa look like fools at same time. pretty convincing and funny I hope somebody official investigates what he says. lots of people hate him for attacking the military but nobody said he is wrong. I think some heads are going to roll in the air force over this.

]]> By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/10890/comment-page-1#comment-132059 Reader's Write Thu, 11 Jan 2007 07:07:35 +0000 #comment-132059 I agree. Songtan should be off limits to US Military members. They have plenty of things on base to keep them busy during their 1 year tour. I agree. Songtan should be off limits to US Military members. They have plenty of things on base to keep them busy during their 1 year tour.

]]> By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/10890/comment-page-1#comment-132058 Reader's Write Thu, 11 Jan 2007 06:57:20 +0000 #comment-132058 I'll tell you why: Because Mr Haid (Chuck N. Haid, chickenhead, whatever) ran 2 bars called Chickenhead Labs) outside of bases in Korea (Osan and Camp Humphries) that sold alcohol to minors, and provided a hiding place for military members who failed to return to base during curfew. As a result his bars were placed off-limits and since no self-respecting Korean would go in his places he had to close them down. He had been warned several times, but refused to meet standards. He has now made it his job to blame the US military for all criminal activity in Korea. When his bars were open and the base leadership was cracking down on prostitution and underage drinking his battle cry was "the US military has no juridiction off base". Now his battle cry is "the US military won't enforce laws off base" I’ll tell you why: Because Mr Haid (Chuck N. Haid, chickenhead, whatever) ran 2 bars called Chickenhead Labs) outside of bases in Korea (Osan and Camp Humphries) that sold alcohol to minors, and provided a hiding place for military members who failed to return to base during curfew. As a result his bars were placed off-limits and since no self-respecting Korean would go in his places he had to close them down. He had been warned several times, but refused to meet standards. He has now made it his job to blame the US military for all criminal activity in Korea. When his bars were open and the base leadership was cracking down on prostitution and underage drinking his battle cry was “the US military has no juridiction off base”. Now his battle cry is “the US military won’t enforce laws off base”

]]> By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/10890/comment-page-1#comment-132057 Reader's Write Thu, 11 Jan 2007 06:53:29 +0000 #comment-132057 No, the writer is not military. He ran 2 bars outside of bases in Korea (Osan and Camp Humphries) that sold alcohol to minors, and provided a hiding place for military members who failed to return to base during curfew. As a result his bars were placed off-limits and since no self-respecting Korean would go in his places he had to close them down. He had been warned several times, but refused to meet standards. He has now made it his job to blame the US military for all criminal activity in Korea. When his bars were open and the base leadership was cracking down on prostitution and underage drinking his battle cry was "the US military has no juridiction off base". Now his battle cry is "the US military won't enforce laws off base" No, the writer is not military. He ran 2 bars outside of bases in Korea (Osan and Camp Humphries) that sold alcohol to minors, and provided a hiding place for military members who failed to return to base during curfew. As a result his bars were placed off-limits and since no self-respecting Korean would go in his places he had to close them down. He had been warned several times, but refused to meet standards. He has now made it his job to blame the US military for all criminal activity in Korea. When his bars were open and the base leadership was cracking down on prostitution and underage drinking his battle cry was “the US military has no juridiction off base”. Now his battle cry is “the US military won’t enforce laws off base”

]]> By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/10890/comment-page-1#comment-132056 Reader's Write Thu, 11 Jan 2007 06:44:26 +0000 #comment-132056 No, the writer is not military. He ran 2 bars outside of bases in Korea (Osan and Camp Humphries) that sold alcohol to minors, and provided a hiding place for military members who failed to return to base during curfew. As a result his bars were placed off-limits and since no self-respecting Korean would go in his places he had to close them down. He had been warned several times, but refused to meet standards. He has now made it his job to blame the US military for all criminal activity in Korea. When his bars were open and the base leadership was cracking down on prostitution and underage drinking his battle cry was "the US military has no juridiction off base". Now his battle cry is "the US military won't enforce laws off base" No, the writer is not military. He ran 2 bars outside of bases in Korea (Osan and Camp Humphries) that sold alcohol to minors, and provided a hiding place for military members who failed to return to base during curfew. As a result his bars were placed off-limits and since no self-respecting Korean would go in his places he had to close them down. He had been warned several times, but refused to meet standards. He has now made it his job to blame the US military for all criminal activity in Korea. When his bars were open and the base leadership was cracking down on prostitution and underage drinking his battle cry was “the US military has no juridiction off base”. Now his battle cry is “the US military won’t enforce laws off base”

]]> By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/10890/comment-page-1#comment-132055 Reader's Write Thu, 11 Jan 2007 06:31:31 +0000 #comment-132055 I concur. I to am at Osan and I think that all personnel should spend their tour confined to the confines of the base. This would prevent them from being exposed to illegal activities that occur off base. I concur. I to am at Osan and I think that all personnel should spend their tour confined to the confines of the base. This would prevent them from being exposed to illegal activities that occur off base.

]]> By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/10890/comment-page-1#comment-132034 Reader's Write Wed, 10 Jan 2007 09:11:16 +0000 #comment-132034 well I don't know about that...one article that not too many people are going to read is not going to do anything at all...so all it did from what you are saying is...nothing! oh wait besides make the air force look bad that is all! and you are wrong there is corruption in the air force anywhere, anywhere there is a airman buying ripped DVDs or fake watches then there is corruption. this will do nothing but make the air force look stupid and make it look like we don't care about the laws of the country we protect. well I don’t know about that…one article that not too many people are going to read is not going to do anything at all…so all it did from what you are saying is…nothing! oh wait besides make the air force look bad that is all! and you are wrong there is corruption in the air force anywhere, anywhere there is a airman buying ripped DVDs or fake watches then there is corruption. this will do nothing but make the air force look stupid and make it look like we don’t care about the laws of the country we protect.

]]> By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/10890/comment-page-1#comment-132031 Reader's Write Wed, 10 Jan 2007 06:10:26 +0000 #comment-132031 So the pictures are all Photoshopped? So the pictures are all Photoshopped?

]]> By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/10890/comment-page-1#comment-132030 Reader's Write Wed, 10 Jan 2007 06:07:20 +0000 #comment-132030 I have been in the AF for 18 years. I am at Osan now. I think this made the AF look bad but I agree with what it said especially the reasons at the end. Osan is not like other bases in the AF and it doesn't represent the real AF. There is definitely something dirty between Osan and organized crime here. I had to sit through all that crap on prostitution and human trafficking then I went downtown and saw town patrol ignoring human trafficking and prostitution. I'm not stupid. Something is not right. There is big money coming off Osan. Enforcement would be hard if it was hidden but letting my airmen break the law right there in front of everybody does not represent the core values of my AF. It doesn't matter if it is for a dvd or for my married airmen paying the ticket for the juicy girls. I don't like articles that make the AF look bad but I don't like a bad AF either. If this is what it takes to clean up this mess I will accept it with no blame to the writer for telling the truth. The AF should act so that no bad thing can be said about it. I don't think people should steal movies but the MPAA needs to stop these pirates before causing trouble for regular people. I don't know why they go after children but won't ask the AF to put these places off limits. No matter what is happening here Osan has to follow orders. Sergeant ROK I have been in the AF for 18 years. I am at Osan now. I think this made the AF look bad but I agree with what it said especially the reasons at the end. Osan is not like other bases in the AF and it doesn’t represent the real AF. There is definitely something dirty between Osan and organized crime here. I had to sit through all that crap on prostitution and human trafficking then I went downtown and saw town patrol ignoring human trafficking and prostitution. I’m not stupid. Something is not right. There is big money coming off Osan. Enforcement would be hard if it was hidden but letting my airmen break the law right there in front of everybody does not represent the core values of my AF. It doesn’t matter if it is for a dvd or for my married airmen paying the ticket for the juicy girls. I don’t like articles that make the AF look bad but I don’t like a bad AF either. If this is what it takes to clean up this mess I will accept it with no blame to the writer for telling the truth. The AF should act so that no bad thing can be said about it. I don’t think people should steal movies but the MPAA needs to stop these pirates before causing trouble for regular people. I don’t know why they go after children but won’t ask the AF to put these places off limits. No matter what is happening here Osan has to follow orders.

Sergeant ROK

]]> By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/10890/comment-page-1#comment-132028 Reader's Write Wed, 10 Jan 2007 05:14:23 +0000 #comment-132028 I missed the point again? I agree with the people below me and my initial statement! You are pissed at something that happened, and if you want them to make the "location" off-limits then lets all think, let just make EVERYTHING in Korea off-limits, since every town and city has illegal "content" everywhere! and I never said that they weren't selling illegal copies, so stop trying to prove a point that almost everyone disagrees with. Stop complaining like I said about the American laws, you serve in this nation, so shut up. I missed the point again? I agree with the people below me and my initial statement! You are pissed at something that happened, and if you want them to make the “location” off-limits then lets all think, let just make EVERYTHING in Korea off-limits, since every town and city has illegal “content” everywhere! and I never said that they weren’t selling illegal copies, so stop trying to prove a point that almost everyone disagrees with. Stop complaining like I said about the American laws, you serve in this nation, so shut up.

]]> By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/10890/comment-page-1#comment-132026 Reader's Write Wed, 10 Jan 2007 03:04:23 +0000 #comment-132026 This guy is just trying to stir up trouble for Osan AB because they shut down his 2 illegal bars (Chickenhead Labs) just outside of Osan and Camp Humphries. This guy is just trying to stir up trouble for Osan AB because they shut down his 2 illegal bars (Chickenhead Labs) just outside of Osan and Camp Humphries.

]]> By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/10890/comment-page-1#comment-131998 Reader's Write Tue, 09 Jan 2007 01:39:26 +0000 #comment-131998 good going Chucky I'm sure the entertainment industry will award you a silver star on the "walk a thon" adjacent to the DMZ If you think the USAF isn't do a good job policing the area I suggest you open this file and see an article from Stars and Stripes on where to get the best knockoff deals in Europe./Users/jackhoffman/Desktop/Stars and stripes.Bargain Town cheap knockoffs.pdf March 7th 2006- Also I'm area is luxury goods since they seem to attact the most attention-- In any case just look at LMVH's profits last year-- Better percentage wise than the oil industries-- good going Chucky I’m sure the entertainment industry will award you a silver star on the “walk a thon” adjacent to the DMZ
If you think the USAF isn’t do a good job policing the area I suggest you open this file and see an article from Stars and Stripes on where to get the best knockoff deals in Europe./Users/jackhoffman/Desktop/Stars and stripes.Bargain Town cheap knockoffs.pdf March 7th 2006-
Also I’m area is luxury goods since they seem to attact the most attention– In any case just look at LMVH’s profits last year– Better percentage wise than the oil industries–

]]> By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/10890/comment-page-1#comment-131986 Reader's Write Mon, 08 Jan 2007 07:24:31 +0000 #comment-131986 I have been in the AF for 18 years. I am at Osan now. I think this made the AF look bad but I agree with what it said especially the reasons at the end. Osan is not like other bases in the AF and it doesn't represent the real AF. There is definitely something dirty between Osan and organized crime here. I had to sit through all that crap on prostitution and human trafficking then I went downtown and saw town patrol ignoring human trafficking and prostitution. I'm not stupid. Something is not right. There is big money coming off Osan. Enforcement would be hard if it was hidden but letting my airmen break the law right there in front of everybody does not represent the core values of my AF. It doesn't matter if it is for a dvd or for my married airmen paying the ticket for the juicy girls. I don't like articles that make the AF look bad but I don't like a bad AF either. If this is what it takes to clean up this mess I will accept it with no blame to the writer for telling the truth. The AF should act so that no bad thing can be said about it. I don't think people should steal movies but the MPAA needs to stop these pirates before causing trouble for regular people. I don't know why they go after children but won't ask the AF to put these places off limits. No matter what is happening here Osan has to follow orders. Sergeant ROK I have been in the AF for 18 years. I am at Osan now. I think this made the AF look bad but I agree with what it said especially the reasons at the end. Osan is not like other bases in the AF and it doesn’t represent the real AF. There is definitely something dirty between Osan and organized crime here. I had to sit through all that crap on prostitution and human trafficking then I went downtown and saw town patrol ignoring human trafficking and prostitution. I’m not stupid. Something is not right. There is big money coming off Osan. Enforcement would be hard if it was hidden but letting my airmen break the law right there in front of everybody does not represent the core values of my AF. It doesn’t matter if it is for a dvd or for my married airmen paying the ticket for the juicy girls. I don’t like articles that make the AF look bad but I don’t like a bad AF either. If this is what it takes to clean up this mess I will accept it with no blame to the writer for telling the truth. The AF should act so that no bad thing can be said about it. I don’t think people should steal movies but the MPAA needs to stop these pirates before causing trouble for regular people. I don’t know why they go after children but won’t ask the AF to put these places off limits. No matter what is happening here Osan has to follow orders.

Sergeant ROK

]]> By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/10890/comment-page-1#comment-131981 Reader's Write Mon, 08 Jan 2007 01:09:30 +0000 #comment-131981 Is it just me or does this story have two points? 1. One yes the Mafia should go after the real pirates instead of children. 2. Yet another way to make the military look bad. This story is all about how the solders they defend your rights (what little hasn't been taking away by laws like the DCMA) look like the cause of all the problems. The base has tried to stop it. You can look at if like if they said that no personal can drink any alcohol year round. Yea they could say that they are the most forward base in the Air Force any they shouldn't drink all. That will cause is a hell of alot of people getting kicked out for drinking because it won't stop happening. Also what is the base going to say don't by fake stuff off base? I don't know about the rest of you but i can't tell if most of those things are fake. Yea a DVD for $5 is fake but they look real other then the price. Those watches look real to me also. What can you tell people? Don't look for deals? Only buy stuff online or at the BX? Yea I see the point the cartels should go after the real pirates first but give the people that die for you a little slack. It seems like the writer got a bad rating or is about to leave the base so he wants to get people back. Nice revenge also makes the military look bad and the MPAA/RIAA just remember these people die for you and all for under 20,000 a year. Yea I understand that alot of people that read this aren't from the states. But from what people tell me it isn't just the US troops that buy this stuff anyone that passes through or is near there goes for the cheap stuff. Good job making the US military look like shit! Is it just me or does this story have two points?

1. One yes the Mafia should go after the real pirates instead of children.
2. Yet another way to make the military look bad.

This story is all about how the solders they defend your rights (what little hasn’t been taking away by laws like the DCMA) look like the cause of all the problems. The base has tried to stop it.

You can look at if like if they said that no personal can drink any alcohol year round. Yea they could say that they are the most forward base in the Air Force any they shouldn’t drink all. That will cause is a hell of alot of people getting kicked out for drinking because it won’t stop happening.

Also what is the base going to say don’t by fake stuff off base? I don’t know about the rest of you but i can’t tell if most of those things are fake. Yea a DVD for $5 is fake but they look real other then the price. Those watches look real to me also. What can you tell people? Don’t look for deals? Only buy stuff online or at the BX?

Yea I see the point the cartels should go after the real pirates first but give the people that die for you a little slack. It seems like the writer got a bad rating or is about to leave the base so he wants to get people back. Nice revenge also makes the military look bad and the MPAA/RIAA just remember these people die for you and all for under 20,000 a year.

Yea I understand that alot of people that read this aren’t from the states. But from what people tell me it isn’t just the US troops that buy this stuff anyone that passes through or is near there goes for the cheap stuff.

Good job making the US military look like shit!

]]> By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/10890/comment-page-1#comment-131963 Reader's Write Sun, 07 Jan 2007 06:34:20 +0000 #comment-131963 I see this whole thing differently. If this american in a foreign country doesn't like what he see's, then he can either quit, leave, resign, get tranfered or go AWOL. His choice. Meanwhile he can stop crying like a baby about it. whaaaaa they can have pirate copies and we can't whaaaa. Next thing you know this cry-baby will come to canada and raise another stink. Whaaa its legal there to download pirated MP3's and i don't like it cuz i am american and i can't do it. Whaaaaa. he should go wipe his nose and quit his job. I see this whole thing differently.

If this american in a foreign country doesn’t like what he see’s, then he can either quit, leave, resign, get tranfered or go AWOL. His choice. Meanwhile he can stop crying like a baby about it. whaaaaa they can have pirate copies and we can’t whaaaa.

Next thing you know this cry-baby will come to canada and raise another stink. Whaaa its legal there to download pirated MP3’s and i don’t like it cuz i am american and i can’t do it. Whaaaaa.

he should go wipe his nose and quit his job.

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