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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/11032/comment-page-1#comment-971467</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 15:27:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW! Do not fuck with us indeed!
That post was so damn awesome, I want to copy and past it into a myspace blog!
I download music all the time (just recently started using torrents). I don&#039;t feel bad about it - not like I am breaking into a store and stealing a CD.
I say that if music and movie companies want to combat P2P sharing, they should start thier own sites that charge a fee for the content. I remember the days when I had to spend the money on a full CD just to get one song I liked. Now, I can just use a search engine to find the mp3 of any track I want without having to surrender my money to a full CD purchase. That is the glory of downloading online. Though I support the movie business and will always watch my movies in the theaters and buy the DVDs, I want my options open when it comes to music.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW! Do not fuck with us indeed!<br />
That post was so damn awesome, I want to copy and past it into a myspace blog!<br />
I download music all the time (just recently started using torrents). I don&#8217;t feel bad about it &#8211; not like I am breaking into a store and stealing a CD.<br />
I say that if music and movie companies want to combat P2P sharing, they should start thier own sites that charge a fee for the content. I remember the days when I had to spend the money on a full CD just to get one song I liked. Now, I can just use a search engine to find the mp3 of any track I want without having to surrender my money to a full CD purchase. That is the glory of downloading online. Though I support the movie business and will always watch my movies in the theaters and buy the DVDs, I want my options open when it comes to music.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/11032/comment-page-1#comment-132351</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 20:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>.to</description>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/11032/comment-page-1#comment-132305</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 22:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We need to eat too.&quot;

I&#039;m sorry, but are you saying that you&#039;re currently starving? I find that rather hard to believe. If you truly are, then perhaps you are in the wrong line of work.

I&#039;m in full agreement that people who generate the things we all enjoy, such as music, movies, and yes, even software, deserve to be paid for all their hard work. That is of course if the price being asked is reasonable, which very often it is not. If it was, there wouldn&#039;t be a &quot;P2P problem&quot; in the world today. Add to that the fact that the various industries has gone completely insane, suing their own customers and fans, showing just how greedy and spiteful they can be, and it is hardly surprising that your average joe starts to fight back any way they can. Looking at the actions of the industry over the years, it is completely clear to me that they wanted a war, and a war is exactly what they got. No point crying about P2P now, it&#039;s way too late for that. Really, at this point there is only one way this war can end, and that is by one side winning it. No matter how many good people you sue, no matter who you ruin, no matter how many laws you get created in your favor, no matter how many officials you bribe, no matter how many lies you tell, in the end you will not win. You would have to jail 90% of the worlds population in order to do so, and good luck with that. While you may have a lot of power, we have the numbers. Yes, it is the average joe that has the true power. The people you are after are the people you depend on. We cook your meals, we drive your ambulances. We connect your calls, we guard you while you sleep. Do not fuck with us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We need to eat too.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry, but are you saying that you&#8217;re currently starving? I find that rather hard to believe. If you truly are, then perhaps you are in the wrong line of work.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m in full agreement that people who generate the things we all enjoy, such as music, movies, and yes, even software, deserve to be paid for all their hard work. That is of course if the price being asked is reasonable, which very often it is not. If it was, there wouldn&#8217;t be a &#8220;P2P problem&#8221; in the world today. Add to that the fact that the various industries has gone completely insane, suing their own customers and fans, showing just how greedy and spiteful they can be, and it is hardly surprising that your average joe starts to fight back any way they can. Looking at the actions of the industry over the years, it is completely clear to me that they wanted a war, and a war is exactly what they got. No point crying about P2P now, it&#8217;s way too late for that. Really, at this point there is only one way this war can end, and that is by one side winning it. No matter how many good people you sue, no matter who you ruin, no matter how many laws you get created in your favor, no matter how many officials you bribe, no matter how many lies you tell, in the end you will not win. You would have to jail 90% of the worlds population in order to do so, and good luck with that. While you may have a lot of power, we have the numbers. Yes, it is the average joe that has the true power. The people you are after are the people you depend on. We cook your meals, we drive your ambulances. We connect your calls, we guard you while you sleep. Do not fuck with us.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/11032/comment-page-1#comment-132271</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 11:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; a federal offense. 

Really?  I don&#039;t live in your republic.  You say potato, I say Sweden.  

&gt; how can the industry be paid for their hard work 
&gt; and continue to produce more material

Sigh.  There are other distribution and payment models which are suitable for open P2P sharing.  If time was invested in them instead of wasted on frivolous litigation, there would be no problem to discuss.  

You forget that the primary goal of any media production is to be viewed, not to generate a direct income stream - that comes once you have viewers who enjoy your production.

Go do some research and come back when you&#039;ve got some constructive ideas about P2P.  In the immortal words of Ian Fleming&#039;s Q:- &quot;Yes, well, it&#039;s called the future, so get used to it&quot;.  

Ironically, I would point you to an interesting and thought-provoking video lecture on this very topic - but the .torrent file for it is stored on isohunt.com, which is offline right now of course.

On the other hand, perhaps it&#039;s best to leave your thoughts unprovoked.  


Peace, love and understanding.


- Dr. Abraham Perelman
 (pp. Anonymous Coward)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; a federal offense. </p>
<p>Really?  I don&#8217;t live in your republic.  You say potato, I say Sweden.  </p>
<p>&gt; how can the industry be paid for their hard work<br />
&gt; and continue to produce more material</p>
<p>Sigh.  There are other distribution and payment models which are suitable for open P2P sharing.  If time was invested in them instead of wasted on frivolous litigation, there would be no problem to discuss.  </p>
<p>You forget that the primary goal of any media production is to be viewed, not to generate a direct income stream &#8211; that comes once you have viewers who enjoy your production.</p>
<p>Go do some research and come back when you&#8217;ve got some constructive ideas about P2P.  In the immortal words of Ian Fleming&#8217;s Q:- &#8220;Yes, well, it&#8217;s called the future, so get used to it&#8221;.  </p>
<p>Ironically, I would point you to an interesting and thought-provoking video lecture on this very topic &#8211; but the .torrent file for it is stored on isohunt.com, which is offline right now of course.</p>
<p>On the other hand, perhaps it&#8217;s best to leave your thoughts unprovoked.  </p>
<p>Peace, love and understanding.</p>
<p>- Dr. Abraham Perelman<br />
 (pp. Anonymous Coward)</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/11032/comment-page-1#comment-132266</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 08:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about the Software Programers ???
Don&#039;t forget about us.
We need to eat too..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about the Software Programers ???<br />
Don&#8217;t forget about us.<br />
We need to eat too..</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/11032/comment-page-1#comment-132261</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 06:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...illegally copyrighted material posted should not be tolerated in any way, shape, or form.  Even allowing torrents, and not the files themselves, should not be allowed to remain on the site.  This is needed to ensure that there are obstacles to online piracy, a federal offense.

Directors and script-writers need to be payed for the entertainment which is enjoyed - if everyone freeloaded on copyright-infringed material, than how can the industry be paid for their hard work and continue to produce more material? isoHunt and other tracker sites (like Demonoid) need to be shut down.

Peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;illegally copyrighted material posted should not be tolerated in any way, shape, or form.  Even allowing torrents, and not the files themselves, should not be allowed to remain on the site.  This is needed to ensure that there are obstacles to online piracy, a federal offense.</p>
<p>Directors and script-writers need to be payed for the entertainment which is enjoyed &#8211; if everyone freeloaded on copyright-infringed material, than how can the industry be paid for their hard work and continue to produce more material? isoHunt and other tracker sites (like Demonoid) need to be shut down.</p>
<p>Peace.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/11032/comment-page-1#comment-132248</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 19:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a rather unfortunate turn of events. It seems that the content industry will go to any length to keep people from getting what they want- DRM free material. Who wants to download DRM infested material from their crappy corporate sites anyhow?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a rather unfortunate turn of events. It seems that the content industry will go to any length to keep people from getting what they want- DRM free material. Who wants to download DRM infested material from their crappy corporate sites anyhow?</p>
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