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	<title>Comments on: Robert Santangelo bites back</title>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/11191/comment-page-1#comment-133417</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 16:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good points. They may, however be meaningless in a court system that plainly overlooks and even justifies real stealing.

Two music publisher stole our songs, to the point of even copyright registering them as if they were the owners. We sued them and what did the judge decide? He made hundreds of errors in his &quot;opinion&quot; facts to justify the thefts. Essentially he decided that theft was not copyright infringement, therefore there were no damages to be paid to the rightful owners.

And the media (including the Internet) doesn&#039;t want to investigate or even mention the case.

The facts are here:
http://rafa_venegas.web.prdigital.com/peer-acemla.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points. They may, however be meaningless in a court system that plainly overlooks and even justifies real stealing.</p>
<p>Two music publisher stole our songs, to the point of even copyright registering them as if they were the owners. We sued them and what did the judge decide? He made hundreds of errors in his &#8220;opinion&#8221; facts to justify the thefts. Essentially he decided that theft was not copyright infringement, therefore there were no damages to be paid to the rightful owners.</p>
<p>And the media (including the Internet) doesn&#8217;t want to investigate or even mention the case.</p>
<p>The facts are here:<br />
<a href="http://rafa_venegas.web.prdigital.com/peer-acemla.htm" rel="nofollow">http://rafa_venegas.web.prdigital.com/peer-acemla.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/11191/comment-page-1#comment-133122</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 20:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you hear more often now the term &quot;copyright theft&quot;.

this is funny too; does anyone take away their right to make a copy? 
I thought the market just refuses to take advantage of those guys rights at the terms they try to dictate (with DRM CRAP and unreasonable prised for example), and not that the market disallowes them to make those copies!

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Alter_Fritz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you hear more often now the term &#8220;copyright theft&#8221;.</p>
<p>this is funny too; does anyone take away their right to make a copy?<br />
I thought the market just refuses to take advantage of those guys rights at the terms they try to dictate (with DRM CRAP and unreasonable prised for example), and not that the market disallowes them to make those copies!</p>
<p>__<br />
Alter_Fritz</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/11191/comment-page-1#comment-133025</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 01:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Stealing&#039; and &#039;theft&#039; are left to the media campaign (and to sway politicians), as they invoke a response that is more favorable to big media.

You know just as they do not refering to themselves as the media cartel, or big media. They&#039;d prefere we thought of them as a warm loving bunch of knuckleheads, as opposed to the heartless money grubbin corporations they are. That they think they should control the means of distribution so they can make money for nothing, is beside the point.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Stealing&#8217; and &#8216;theft&#8217; are left to the media campaign (and to sway politicians), as they invoke a response that is more favorable to big media.</p>
<p>You know just as they do not refering to themselves as the media cartel, or big media. They&#8217;d prefere we thought of them as a warm loving bunch of knuckleheads, as opposed to the heartless money grubbin corporations they are. That they think they should control the means of distribution so they can make money for nothing, is beside the point.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/11191/comment-page-1#comment-133020</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 23:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s why the RIAA lawyers aren&#039;t allowed to call it &#039;stealing&#039; or &#039;theft&#039; in court.

 It isn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s why the RIAA lawyers aren&#8217;t allowed to call it &#8217;stealing&#8217; or &#8216;theft&#8217; in court.</p>
<p> It isn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/11191/comment-page-1#comment-133019</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 22:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When you talk about &quot;stealing&quot;, keep in mind that there are times when stealing is quite legal.

You can steal an idea.
You can steal a peek.
You can steal the show.

None of these kinds of stealing leave anybody out money.

The type of stealing that leaves people short is when the stealing results in the initial owner no longer having that item.
Such as stealing a bicycle.

So, 
stealing in one sense of the word does not mean stealing in every other sense.
&quot;Stealing is not always stealing&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you talk about &#8220;stealing&#8221;, keep in mind that there are times when stealing is quite legal.</p>
<p>You can steal an idea.<br />
You can steal a peek.<br />
You can steal the show.</p>
<p>None of these kinds of stealing leave anybody out money.</p>
<p>The type of stealing that leaves people short is when the stealing results in the initial owner no longer having that item.<br />
Such as stealing a bicycle.</p>
<p>So,<br />
stealing in one sense of the word does not mean stealing in every other sense.<br />
&#8220;Stealing is not always stealing&#8221;</p>
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