Comments on: Microsoft prices too high: Russia http://www.p2pnet.net/story/11384 p2pnet.net - reader powered Wed, 01 Feb 2012 15:11:09 -0300 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/11384/comment-page-1#comment-134036 Reader's Write Wed, 21 Feb 2007 18:23:46 +0000 #comment-134036 According to a report on Pravda (http://english.pravda.ru/main/18/87/347/15919_salary.html ) that comments about how the average income had risen to $300/mo in Russia, the costs I'm seeing more like $199 for the full version of windows vista basic.. Presuming that's all the average Russian pc user there wants, then 1/18th of their annual wages are 'all' that’s required to buy in. According to the US Census website ( http://www.census.gov/hhes/income/income03/statemhi.html ) the average American makes $43,527 {I wish I made that}... which means for the Average American only 1/218th of their annual wages are needed to buy into the latest basic windows version. If only 1/218th were used of the 'average' Russian wage, that'd mean their cost would be $16.51 to be in the same cost-range as the 'average' American... or for their pricing range to be used on us, our price would be $2,418.16 for that basic version of Vista... kinda makes you want to just rush out there and drop two grand down doesn't it? NOT! I’ve commented on this kind of price insult before (heck if I can find the link) on p2pnet, when price was brought up regarding Russia and their cd prices. Piracy is going to stay in Russia as long as they make pitiful wages…. When the average Russian earns $43,527 then charging them the same for software and having less piracy could be expected. Just my 10 cents, _-Jile-_ According to a report on Pravda (http://english.pravda.ru/main/18/87/347/15919_salary.html ) that comments about how the average income had risen to $300/mo in Russia, the costs I’m seeing more like $199 for the full version of windows vista basic..

Presuming that’s all the average Russian pc user there wants, then 1/18th of their annual wages are ‘all’ that’s required to buy in.

According to the US Census website (
http://www.census.gov/hhes/income/income03/statemhi.html ) the average American makes $43,527 {I wish I made that}… which means for the Average American only 1/218th of their annual wages are needed to buy into the latest basic windows version.

If only 1/218th were used of the ‘average’ Russian wage, that’d mean their cost would be $16.51 to be in the same cost-range as the ‘average’ American… or for their pricing range to be used on us, our price would be $2,418.16 for that basic version of Vista… kinda makes you want to just rush out there and drop two grand down doesn’t it? NOT!

I’ve commented on this kind of price insult before (heck if I can find the link) on p2pnet, when price was brought up regarding Russia and their cd prices. Piracy is going to stay in Russia as long as they make pitiful wages…. When the average Russian earns $43,527 then charging them the same for software and having less piracy could be expected.

Just my 10 cents,
_-Jile-_

]]> By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/11384/comment-page-1#comment-133989 Reader's Write Wed, 21 Feb 2007 12:20:09 +0000 #comment-133989 > would it not be better if each country had its own pricing system in Us dollars/us159 > dollards in one country or whateve it is now might be epensive in one country not > another. If in put in place by Microsoft, this won't come cheap, I'm afraid. Expect restrictions like "licensed for USE on the territory on Russia" (illegal to take your laptop abroad), a huge price fork between the poorly translated NLVs and the US-English version for those who prefers the latter (this is already happening - the fork is $72/$90 for WinXP Home OEM), ubiquitous preloads, and a gradual, painful increase in pricing as new versions appear and the purchasing power grows. Better leave it as it is now. Microsoft wants to gain more Windows addicts from the rapidly computerizing population - but why do we need to help them? -- Microsoft's 51st registered user in Russia > would it not be better if each country had its own pricing system in Us dollars/us159
> dollards in one country or whateve it is now might be epensive in one country not
> another.

If in put in place by Microsoft, this won’t come cheap, I’m afraid. Expect restrictions like “licensed for USE on the territory on Russia” (illegal to take your laptop abroad), a huge price fork between the poorly translated NLVs and the US-English version for those who prefers the latter (this is already happening – the fork is $72/$90 for WinXP Home OEM), ubiquitous preloads, and a gradual, painful increase in pricing as new versions appear and the purchasing power grows.

Better leave it as it is now. Microsoft wants to gain more Windows addicts from the rapidly computerizing population – but why do we need to help them?

– Microsoft’s 51st registered user in Russia

]]> By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/11384/comment-page-1#comment-133966 Reader's Write Wed, 21 Feb 2007 06:30:08 +0000 #comment-133966 would it not be better if each country had its own pricing system in Us dollars/us159 dollards in one country or whateve it is now might be epensive in one country not another. would it not be better if each country had its own pricing system in Us dollars/us159 dollards in one country or whateve it is now might be epensive in one country not another.

]]> By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/11384/comment-page-1#comment-133932 Reader's Write Tue, 20 Feb 2007 23:29:00 +0000 #comment-133932 Indeed. Starter Edition is a joke. What the people need are discounts, not crippleware that punishes the lawful. This is even worse than DRM. Of course, any copyrighted stuff in Russia that isn't in Russian is free game. So, if you can fluently read English, you're set. Indeed. Starter Edition is a joke. What the people need are discounts, not crippleware that punishes the lawful. This is even worse than DRM.

Of course, any copyrighted stuff in Russia that isn’t in Russian is free game. So, if you can fluently read English, you’re set.

]]> By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/11384/comment-page-1#comment-133931 Reader's Write Tue, 20 Feb 2007 23:26:22 +0000 #comment-133931 'And in a remark which could apply equally well to the entertainment cartels, 'We are constantly fighting against unlicensed use of software, but we need to fight not with the consumers but those who develop the software,' he said. I could not agree more, not that anyoner will pay attention. ‘And in a remark which could apply equally well to the entertainment cartels, ‘We are constantly fighting against unlicensed use of software, but we need to fight not with the consumers but those who develop the software,’ he said.

I could not agree more, not that anyoner will pay attention.

]]> By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/11384/comment-page-1#comment-133928 Reader's Write Tue, 20 Feb 2007 22:48:51 +0000 #comment-133928 Indeed it is laid right on the head of the problem. This overpricing and over restriction is what is making folks go to Linux in the case of M$. Not only is it driving piracy but nature abhors a vacuum, so do softwares. Open source softwares are having a field day with these attitudes. Many third world countries whose citizens can't pay for these softwares as often the price is months or more of what a worker would earn aren't going without. They are doing quite well with downloading it through p2p. Bill and the Boyz had a chance to change this with the request to let the teacher off the hook. Now they got a whole nation that will do so uninhibited of whatever they might have thought they were doing in denying that request. That they thought one teacher on the hook would teach them better, now instead the teacher is not going to be punished and the nation has been given whole sale permission to get it as they see fit, unofficially. Bill and the Boyz stepped in it and will now find their mistake multiplied into another hydra. ...and so the greedy get their just deserts. Indeed it is laid right on the head of the problem. This overpricing and over restriction is what is making folks go to Linux in the case of M$. Not only is it driving piracy but nature abhors a vacuum, so do softwares.

Open source softwares are having a field day with these attitudes. Many third world countries whose citizens can’t pay for these softwares as often the price is months or more of what a worker would earn aren’t going without. They are doing quite well with downloading it through p2p.

Bill and the Boyz had a chance to change this with the request to let the teacher off the hook. Now they got a whole nation that will do so uninhibited of whatever they might have thought they were doing in denying that request. That they thought one teacher on the hook would teach them better, now instead the teacher is not going to be punished and the nation has been given whole sale permission to get it as they see fit, unofficially. Bill and the Boyz stepped in it and will now find their mistake multiplied into another hydra.

…and so the greedy get their just deserts.

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