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		<title>By: RIAA college settlement plan &#171; Music Top News</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/11479/comment-page-1#comment-192115</link>
		<dc:creator>RIAA college settlement plan &#171; Music Top News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 14:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/11479/comment-page-1#comment-191833</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 00:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With one in five Americans swapping music online, it should be clear that severe lawsuits are not the answer. In the end, copyright law should be updated to include a mechanism that gets artists paid, while making file sharing legal. If the files are copyrighted, then the file sharing application should allow for payment.  Until then, however, colleges and universities should make every effort to get themselves out of the cross-fire by configuring their campus networks so that they protect the privacy of students, staff, and faculty.

Lets make the internet safe for everyone.

I know the political process sometimes seems superficial and worse. Lets make the internet safe again for everyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With one in five Americans swapping music online, it should be clear that severe lawsuits are not the answer. In the end, copyright law should be updated to include a mechanism that gets artists paid, while making file sharing legal. If the files are copyrighted, then the file sharing application should allow for payment.  Until then, however, colleges and universities should make every effort to get themselves out of the cross-fire by configuring their campus networks so that they protect the privacy of students, staff, and faculty.</p>
<p>Lets make the internet safe for everyone.</p>
<p>I know the political process sometimes seems superficial and worse. Lets make the internet safe again for everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: More RIAA College Shenanigans. &#171; Subjective Objectivism</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/11479/comment-page-1#comment-147202</link>
		<dc:creator>More RIAA College Shenanigans. &#171; Subjective Objectivism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 10:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the RIAA sends out what it calls ‘pre-litigation’ settlement letters. Actually, they’re self-incrimination documents and they’re designed to extort preset amounts of around $3,000 from students with the empty [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/11479/comment-page-1#comment-134981</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Mar 2007 02:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surely one of these students knows a lawyer who would love to take on this case. The RIAA is going after students because students are usually living off of loans and working part-time and the idea of being sued for a lot of money scares the hell out of them so they will probably settle and give the RIAA $3,000 each. Record sales are fine. Look at the Billboard 200 chart and you will see many Platinum and Multi-Platinum records. I don&#039;t understand why the RIAA cries about losing money all the time. It sounds like they have bad accountants because records are indeed selling. Downloading music for free does not kill the music industry. iTunes is doing well and albums are selling still. Concerts continue to do well. Musicians and record companies get their money. Sharing music with friends is a way to promote music. If you email a friend an mp3 by an artist he&#039;s never heard before, it can open up his mind to a whole new world of music that he had never thought about. He might end up buying that artist&#039;s CD or going to the artist&#039;s concert. He&#039;s not sitting there, downloading the artist&#039;s music and laughing the whole time in some evil genius way. The RIAA wants to criminalize people who are just sharing their favorite songs in a social way. I hope a good lawyer will stand up to them one day and fight back. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely one of these students knows a lawyer who would love to take on this case. The RIAA is going after students because students are usually living off of loans and working part-time and the idea of being sued for a lot of money scares the hell out of them so they will probably settle and give the RIAA $3,000 each. Record sales are fine. Look at the Billboard 200 chart and you will see many Platinum and Multi-Platinum records. I don&#8217;t understand why the RIAA cries about losing money all the time. It sounds like they have bad accountants because records are indeed selling. Downloading music for free does not kill the music industry. iTunes is doing well and albums are selling still. Concerts continue to do well. Musicians and record companies get their money. Sharing music with friends is a way to promote music. If you email a friend an mp3 by an artist he&#8217;s never heard before, it can open up his mind to a whole new world of music that he had never thought about. He might end up buying that artist&#8217;s CD or going to the artist&#8217;s concert. He&#8217;s not sitting there, downloading the artist&#8217;s music and laughing the whole time in some evil genius way. The RIAA wants to criminalize people who are just sharing their favorite songs in a social way. I hope a good lawyer will stand up to them one day and fight back.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/11479/comment-page-1#comment-134873</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 22:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oook, looks like we gotta fanboi of the RIAA. Nice you know you&#039;re teed. Good to know some folks are doing something right if the fanbois are upset. 

I hope they get more than just teed. Theres an archaeological dig I would like to see their remains show up at. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oook, looks like we gotta fanboi of the RIAA. Nice you know you&#8217;re teed. Good to know some folks are doing something right if the fanbois are upset. </p>
<p>I hope they get more than just teed. Theres an archaeological dig I would like to see their remains show up at.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/11479/comment-page-1#comment-134853</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 14:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think you hit the nail right on the head</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think you hit the nail right on the head</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/11479/comment-page-1#comment-134850</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 13:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FUCK YOU</description>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/11479/comment-page-1#comment-134767</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 19:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How many leeters, digits, etc is in the case number.  Is it something like LLLNNN,  NNNLL NLNL (where N=number and L=letter)?  I&#039;m just curious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many leeters, digits, etc is in the case number.  Is it something like LLLNNN,  NNNLL NLNL (where N=number and L=letter)?  I&#8217;m just curious.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/11479/comment-page-1#comment-134766</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 19:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not without going through a lot of trouble.  You can tap the ruthless lawyers phine, or you can tap the extortion centers phone.  Other than that, I have no other idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not without going through a lot of trouble.  You can tap the ruthless lawyers phine, or you can tap the extortion centers phone.  Other than that, I have no other idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/11479/comment-page-1#comment-134765</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 18:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Activities like this by the RIAA are why every time I read an article(by a pro p2p person) about &quot;working with the music industry to find alternative methods of paymnent&quot;, I want to puke. The only &quot;work&quot; people involved with p2p should be doing is to see these dinosaurs become extinct as soon as possible. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Activities like this by the RIAA are why every time I read an article(by a pro p2p person) about &#8220;working with the music industry to find alternative methods of paymnent&#8221;, I want to puke. The only &#8220;work&#8221; people involved with p2p should be doing is to see these dinosaurs become extinct as soon as possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/11479/comment-page-1#comment-134746</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 08:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If the record companies negotiated a settlement with the P2P service I used, can they still sue me?

&quot;Yes. You are still responsible for your actions and the harm that you have caused.&quot;

The harm I caused? WTF?!?  And settling is not enough to immunize further suing? What&#039;s the point?

Also, their website is a piece of crap.  Was it designed by college students who are paying off their debt?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If the record companies negotiated a settlement with the P2P service I used, can they still sue me?</p>
<p>&#8220;Yes. You are still responsible for your actions and the harm that you have caused.&#8221;</p>
<p>The harm I caused? WTF?!?  And settling is not enough to immunize further suing? What&#8217;s the point?</p>
<p>Also, their website is a piece of crap.  Was it designed by college students who are paying off their debt?</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/11479/comment-page-1#comment-134648</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 17:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>any way to listen into the call?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>any way to listen into the call?</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/11479/comment-page-1#comment-134499</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 11:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>newspeak: filesharing service = file-trafficking service (sounds like illegal drugs. RIAA-Richard loves to draw illegal drug analogies but was shut down on that by an intelligent judge)

And the question: &quot;If I have Wi-Fi at home, how can you be sure it was me who did the downloading?&quot; Isn&#039;t answered at all! 
They say &quot;The fact that a wireless connection is involved does not mean that the individual engaging in copyright infringement cannot be identified. Cases are routinely pursued where a wireless connection is involved.&quot; 

Dear RIAA: 
The question wasn&#039;t if the individual responsible for copyrightinfringement can be identified in such a network setup, the question was how you can be sure who did it!

But yes, you are right, cases that involve wireless netconnectivity are persued;
They even get reinstated if a default judgement on wireless is challenged by a defendant. 
You might want to add that to the FAQ answer. Here&#039;s the link: http://recordingindustryvspeople.blogspot.com/2007/02/default-judgment-vacated-in-illinois.html

Thanks RIAA for your cooperation in providing objective information. How about adding a link to http://p2plawsuitssuck.com/ out of fairness?

__
Alter_Fritz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>newspeak: filesharing service = file-trafficking service (sounds like illegal drugs. RIAA-Richard loves to draw illegal drug analogies but was shut down on that by an intelligent judge)</p>
<p>And the question: &#8220;If I have Wi-Fi at home, how can you be sure it was me who did the downloading?&#8221; Isn&#8217;t answered at all!<br />
They say &#8220;The fact that a wireless connection is involved does not mean that the individual engaging in copyright infringement cannot be identified. Cases are routinely pursued where a wireless connection is involved.&#8221; </p>
<p>Dear RIAA:<br />
The question wasn&#8217;t if the individual responsible for copyrightinfringement can be identified in such a network setup, the question was how you can be sure who did it!</p>
<p>But yes, you are right, cases that involve wireless netconnectivity are persued;<br />
They even get reinstated if a default judgement on wireless is challenged by a defendant.<br />
You might want to add that to the FAQ answer. Here&#8217;s the link: <a href="http://recordingindustryvspeople.blogspot.com/2007/02/default-judgment-vacated-in-illinois.html" rel="nofollow">http://recordingindustryvspeople.blogspot.com/2007/02/default-judgment-vacated-in-illinois.html</a></p>
<p>Thanks RIAA for your cooperation in providing objective information. How about adding a link to <a href="http://p2plawsuitssuck.com/" rel="nofollow">http://p2plawsuitssuck.com/</a> out of fairness?</p>
<p>__<br />
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/11479/comment-page-1#comment-134490</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 02:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks to me like they&#039;re getting so much &quot;bad publicity&quot; in the public media that they are trying to remove it as much as possible from the spotlight. 

This means that the public harressment and trying in it in the court of public opinion in the sense of blabbing it all over the world has backfired. 

It also looks like they now see this as another cash cow to milk as a second income. So they want to keep it going at the same time. 

There&#039;s a reason that the cd sales are dying. The cartels aren&#039;t putting as many out to buy. Naturally this means less sales. They&#039;ve also ceased to groom artists for the long haul, long term appeal. Now it is the formulaic song, picked by the computer to be the hit that is going out for sales. They sound so much alike that very few are as interested in music as they were in the heyday of the 60&#039;s and 70&#039;s. 

Digital sales aren&#039;t booming because of the high price, low quality, locked down product that no one really wants. The latest ploy of thinking of offering non-DRM for a higher price is only greed peeking out once again. DRM hasn&#039;t stopped anything from being shared when people want to share. So they are offering to make non-DRM at a higher price while removing the cost of licensing each copy with DRM? lol. That won&#039;t work any better than the DRM infested product has. 

I hear there is a story about the dinosaurs hearing the passage of that asteroid before it hit. Is it true the sky is falling I wonder?

For myself, it isn&#039;t a problem. There is nothing on the market today I want to hear coming from the major labels. They&#039;ve lost touch with my tastes in music. It makes it far easier just not to purchase or even want their product. They won&#039;t have to worry about me downloading it. They couldn&#039;t give it to me for free. Maybe that&#039;s the root cause of their proclaimed lackluster sales. Piracy is just an easy drum to beat. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks to me like they&#8217;re getting so much &#8220;bad publicity&#8221; in the public media that they are trying to remove it as much as possible from the spotlight. </p>
<p>This means that the public harressment and trying in it in the court of public opinion in the sense of blabbing it all over the world has backfired. </p>
<p>It also looks like they now see this as another cash cow to milk as a second income. So they want to keep it going at the same time. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s a reason that the cd sales are dying. The cartels aren&#8217;t putting as many out to buy. Naturally this means less sales. They&#8217;ve also ceased to groom artists for the long haul, long term appeal. Now it is the formulaic song, picked by the computer to be the hit that is going out for sales. They sound so much alike that very few are as interested in music as they were in the heyday of the 60&#8217;s and 70&#8217;s. </p>
<p>Digital sales aren&#8217;t booming because of the high price, low quality, locked down product that no one really wants. The latest ploy of thinking of offering non-DRM for a higher price is only greed peeking out once again. DRM hasn&#8217;t stopped anything from being shared when people want to share. So they are offering to make non-DRM at a higher price while removing the cost of licensing each copy with DRM? lol. That won&#8217;t work any better than the DRM infested product has. </p>
<p>I hear there is a story about the dinosaurs hearing the passage of that asteroid before it hit. Is it true the sky is falling I wonder?</p>
<p>For myself, it isn&#8217;t a problem. There is nothing on the market today I want to hear coming from the major labels. They&#8217;ve lost touch with my tastes in music. It makes it far easier just not to purchase or even want their product. They won&#8217;t have to worry about me downloading it. They couldn&#8217;t give it to me for free. Maybe that&#8217;s the root cause of their proclaimed lackluster sales. Piracy is just an easy drum to beat.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/11479/comment-page-1#comment-134465</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 20:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am always amused when the RIAA says it is going to &#039;educate&#039;. 

I think it is the RIAA that needs education, especially in the fields of (a) copyright law, (b) morality, (c) business administration, and (d) common courtesy. 

Anyone who takes their lessons on any of these subjects from the RIAA is going to be seriously misled. 

I hope the universities will see through this obvious ploy to increase the RIAA&#039;s stream of easy settlement revenue, and will assist their students in finding out what their true legal rights are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am always amused when the RIAA says it is going to &#8216;educate&#8217;. </p>
<p>I think it is the RIAA that needs education, especially in the fields of (a) copyright law, (b) morality, (c) business administration, and (d) common courtesy. </p>
<p>Anyone who takes their lessons on any of these subjects from the RIAA is going to be seriously misled. </p>
<p>I hope the universities will see through this obvious ploy to increase the RIAA&#8217;s stream of easy settlement revenue, and will assist their students in finding out what their true legal rights are.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/11479/comment-page-1#comment-134463</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 20:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is for educational/entertainment purposes only - standard dislaimers apply.

Go to http://www.voipbuster.com/en/index.html
In the Your phone number: filed, put 001+areacode+telephone number of your most ruthless, hated attorney, judge, congress critter, etc.

In the Destination phone number: field enter the following

0019132348181

or

0019132348182

Now click the call button.  It costs nothing to do this, and it will probably make interesting conversation between the two.  Just do it from a proxy.
It would be funny if their whole extortion center was busy with these types of calls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is for educational/entertainment purposes only &#8211; standard dislaimers apply.</p>
<p>Go to <a href="http://www.voipbuster.com/en/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.voipbuster.com/en/index.html</a><br />
In the Your phone number: filed, put 001+areacode+telephone number of your most ruthless, hated attorney, judge, congress critter, etc.</p>
<p>In the Destination phone number: field enter the following</p>
<p>0019132348181</p>
<p>or</p>
<p>0019132348182</p>
<p>Now click the call button.  It costs nothing to do this, and it will probably make interesting conversation between the two.  Just do it from a proxy.<br />
It would be funny if their whole extortion center was busy with these types of calls.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/11479/comment-page-1#comment-134462</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 20:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They get this koind of thing rolling in America and then you see it all over the place. I expect it will soon arrive also in England, France, and so on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They get this koind of thing rolling in America and then you see it all over the place. I expect it will soon arrive also in England, France, and so on.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/11479/comment-page-1#comment-134457</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 19:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Threatening legal action without actually taking it is also a crime in the U.S.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Threatening legal action without actually taking it is also a crime in the U.S.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/11479/comment-page-1#comment-134456</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 19:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suspect that the main reason they are doing this instead of taking it directly to court is to keep it &quot;off the record&quot; by demanding an under-the-table payment that is harder to trace. 

Filing a frivolous lawsuit is a crime - threatening to do so is not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect that the main reason they are doing this instead of taking it directly to court is to keep it &#8220;off the record&#8221; by demanding an under-the-table payment that is harder to trace. </p>
<p>Filing a frivolous lawsuit is a crime &#8211; threatening to do so is not.</p>
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