p2pnet comment spam
p2pnet.net news:- We’ve been running a p2pnet survey since Monday, March 12, and as I write this, there’ve been 58 responses from about 250 views. I say ‘about’ because I don’t know the number of times I’ve personally accessed the survey form, but I’m guessing 15. The exact number (at 11:06 PST) was 265.
I’ll let the survey run for a while longer before I do a full report on the results, but for now, one of the questions asks, What do you like least about p2pnet? And comment spam still comes up.
It’s bad, no question, and it’s been like that for quite a while. There’s now a verification system in place which cuts a lot of it, but by no means all, and I’ve only recently learned how to deal with it myself using phpMyAdmin.
Before someone told me how to properly configure phpMyAdmin about a month ago, I’d been labouriously going through the comments one-by-one. There was a huge backlog of them and it took me weeks to clear it.
These days, the first thing I do in the morning is see what arrived during the night. Then I kill it off. I also check periodically during the day and delete new arrivals as often as possible.
It used to be that gaming sites were the worst, but these are now few and far between. A few individuals post by hand, but for the last two or three months the vast bulk of the spam has been from Angelfire, largely Chinese porn.
I realize it’s as much of a pain for parasite hosts as it is for everyone on the receiving end.
Angelfire is owned by Lycos and the company’s media spokeswoman, Kathy O’Reilly, told me:
Although Lycos is an ISP only and not responsible for the acts of and content uploaded by users who use Angelfire’s templates to build their own websites, Lycos, of course, takes the issue of spamming very seriously and tries to act proactively in preventing spammers from infiltrating its services.
Unfortunately, the reality is that certain bad-actors eventually find new ways to get around abuse prevention mechanisms. There simply is no foolproof system. Nonetheless, when a suspected spamming site is brought to our attention, Lycos investigates that site immediately, and, if spamming activities are discovered, Lycos takes the site down and terminates the relevant user account.
However, because Lycos offers a free service via Angelfire, individuals who are caught and shut down often create new user accounts under different aliases and with different email addresses attached to those accounts. It is very difficult to prevent this from happening.
To be sure, Lycos disdains spammers just as much as the average internet user and Lycos too is a victim of spammers. It costs Lycos considerable money and resources to deal with spamming activities, not to mention the damage spamming causes to Lycos’s goodwill, such as in cases like this. But because it’s impossible for Lycos to assure that spammers do not access and misappropriate its services before the fact, Lycos encourages individual site owners to secure comment forms and protect their websites by using some form of “captcha” and/or by blocking the offending IP addresses from visiting their sites.
‘Captcha’ is that form which asks you to fill in numbers and letters to make sure you’re human and not a spam-bot. And I admit, it was pretty bad for quite a while and I wasn’t able to improve it until very recently.
“The bot-testing thingy in order to post,” says one survey response. “I stopped posting because of it. To much of a hassle when you have to try over 2-3 times. Or change firewall settings in order to post (ie cookies).”
Yup. I know.
“The catchpa,” says another. “I understand the reason and know why. It’s gotten better at displaying in FireFox but still needs a small amount of tweeking.”
“Spam in the comments,” says another, “but what ya gonna do LOL.”
What I’m gonna do is keep on manually deleting the spam throughout the day, and check out a new system I’ve heard about which relies on images instead of text. So bear with me.
For now, the comment area is one of the most important p2pnet features so even if it takes a bit of effort, please keep on posting : )
Cheers! And thanks …
Jon
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March 18th, 2007 at 2:38 pm
these hosting providers make their money off of advertising, not people paying them for crappy hosting.
its like wondering why google doesn’t move faster to takedown copyrighted videos. it drives traffic!
March 18th, 2007 at 3:11 pm
I took a while of not posting because captcha was very hard to make out in Firefox. Sometimes I just gave up in trying to post a reply after 12 or more attempts.
You have grown in your abilities as a webmaster, Jon. The reply no longer disappears if you get the captcha wrong. As another responder to your survey made mention of allowing cookies became important to the post threw me off for a bit.
It’s something I normally watch very closely and delete after moving on from site to site as normal practice. When I can, I default for not allowing cookies as well as http blockage. This is one of the few sites I don’t look at as hard as most when it comes to dealing with the two.
Still my normal surfing habits are to not allow them when possible or to deal with returning the settings to my defaults right before I move on and removing those items I don’t want in my browser. Call me paranoid, call me a cuckoo, or whatever, but I’m a firm believer of if you don’t protect your privacy, no one will do it for you.
Since I see my comment within this article, I certainly know you read it even if I don’t know how to spell captcha.
March 18th, 2007 at 11:12 pm
In a survey you mentioned an incoming new look, which implies a redesign. Maybe, if it’s not too late, you could consider using a content management framework like Drupal, which among many other useful modules has a very advanced “spam” module that uses a bayesian filter to filter out spam, in addition to its own algorithm.
I’ve been using it for a while on two of my sites and it’s been quite impressive at properly detecting spam comments and unpublishing them as unapproved in the moderation queue, upon which you can easily delete them.
I actually use it on one of my sites in a combination with the math captcha (no image). Math captcha is where before posting, the user is asked a very simple math question (like what is 7 – 3) and you have to put in the correct answer.
With the spam module and this captcha we barely get any spam on our sites.
Anyway, it’s just a suggestions.
Best Regards
Danijel (Libervis.net)
March 19th, 2007 at 4:17 am
Kitten Auth. It is captcha with cats.
http://www.kittenauth.com/
OR dolphins or something like that
There is also the captcha used by mhaddins.tk on his forum. I had never seen it before and it is 3d
March 19th, 2007 at 4:37 am
I know that I’m particularly lazy, in that if I’m required to register to a web site before posting a comment, 9-times-out-of-10, I won’t. This might be an effective deterrent from spammers, as I’m sure they’re just as lazy as the rest of us.
March 19th, 2007 at 6:02 am
Thanks for the thought, but I want p2pnet posts to continue to be anonymous. That allows anyone to post and doesn’t restrict comments to a limited number people.
Cheers!
March 19th, 2007 at 6:02 am
Thanks Danijel.
Cheers!
March 19th, 2007 at 6:03 am
Thanks. I’ll have a look.
Cheers!
March 19th, 2007 at 10:31 am
Yes. That’s why this site rocks.
Thanks Jon for taking the time to delete spam while keeping the anonymity.
March 19th, 2007 at 1:56 pm
Jon is one special human being for keeping it that way.
March 19th, 2007 at 2:04 pm
To those complaining about the captcha: Would you rather be exposed to all the spam that captcha PREVENTS? If you’re too lazy to use the captcha, what you have to say must have little importance.
So thx for being lazy and sparing us your drivel.
And about Cookies?: Quit being computer dummies and LEARN how your OS works and then tweak the daylights out of it so it’ll do what YOU want it to! Instead of just being a “passenger”, *YOU* _BE_ the DRIVER!!!!!!!
March 19th, 2007 at 2:07 pm
I haven’t seen very much in a LOOOOOONG time!!!!!!!!