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	<title>Comments on: New Uni of Florida anti-p2p app</title>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/12018/comment-page-1#comment-137157</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 05:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Put news like this in kids&#039; P2P applications so the app shows a popup.  That way they CAN&#039;T miss it and know what universities to avoid.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Put news like this in kids&#8217; P2P applications so the app shows a popup.  That way they CAN&#8217;T miss it and know what universities to avoid.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/12018/comment-page-1#comment-137144</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 17:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These offenders should be named and shamed in a list of the worst universities. It should be made publicly available to all students and highly visible.

Once students start ignoring universities that flagrantly disregard their privacy rights and/or work with the RIAA/MPAA,  they will soon come around.

It is time to institute boycotts against them...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These offenders should be named and shamed in a list of the worst universities. It should be made publicly available to all students and highly visible.</p>
<p>Once students start ignoring universities that flagrantly disregard their privacy rights and/or work with the RIAA/MPAA,  they will soon come around.</p>
<p>It is time to institute boycotts against them&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/12018/comment-page-1#comment-137139</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 17:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;- Just what we need robot police supplied by the *AA&#039;s. &quot;

police, judge and jury as a matter of fact.... guilty until proven otherwise. And the *AA&#039;s won&#039;t let that happen, they will bury you in court

Summary of SOP seems to be: 

Pay us cause it&#039;ll cost you way more to fight.

Since you didnt pay us we&#039;ll keep this in court until you run out of cash. Then when you cannot afford a lawyer. Then we will win by default.

And on the off chance they cannot outlast someone or some one comes up with something that shows they were not &#039;guilty&#039; they drop the case and fight having to pay for the others legal cost.  
The &#039; well if you didn&#039;t look like you fall into the demographic that would just roll over and pay us we&#039;d never have sued you, so it&#039;s your fault anyway&#039; part of the case. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;- Just what we need robot police supplied by the *AA&#8217;s. &#8221;</p>
<p>police, judge and jury as a matter of fact&#8230;. guilty until proven otherwise. And the *AA&#8217;s won&#8217;t let that happen, they will bury you in court</p>
<p>Summary of SOP seems to be: </p>
<p>Pay us cause it&#8217;ll cost you way more to fight.</p>
<p>Since you didnt pay us we&#8217;ll keep this in court until you run out of cash. Then when you cannot afford a lawyer. Then we will win by default.</p>
<p>And on the off chance they cannot outlast someone or some one comes up with something that shows they were not &#8216;guilty&#8217; they drop the case and fight having to pay for the others legal cost.<br />
The &#8216; well if you didn&#8217;t look like you fall into the demographic that would just roll over and pay us we&#8217;d never have sued you, so it&#8217;s your fault anyway&#8217; part of the case.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/12018/comment-page-1#comment-137138</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 17:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;The so-called Integrity application tracks data transfers between computers, &quot;searching for code patterns that indicate users are illegally transferring material,&quot; &#039;
 
- so does this mean they &#039;fingerprinting&#039; or just searching for patterns, ie a user recieving lots of packets from differnet users? 

If it&#039;s fingerprinting then wouldn&#039;t using encryption &#039;fix&#039; this?

If its the other than that also could be a user recieving legitamite files over p2p, or using a some form of web bot used to retrieve information (rss feeds for example) from many sources.

&quot;Once located, the program automatically tells students they&#039;ve been caught. Depending on the school, this can lead to a range of punishments, such as a temporary ban from the system.&quot; 

- Just what we need robot police supplied by the *AA&#039;s. 

-Gues it can&#039;t be the second or their would be too many false positives and the university could have quite a few legal battles on  it&#039;as hands. 


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;The so-called Integrity application tracks data transfers between computers, &#8220;searching for code patterns that indicate users are illegally transferring material,&#8221; &#8216;</p>
<p>- so does this mean they &#8216;fingerprinting&#8217; or just searching for patterns, ie a user recieving lots of packets from differnet users? </p>
<p>If it&#8217;s fingerprinting then wouldn&#8217;t using encryption &#8216;fix&#8217; this?</p>
<p>If its the other than that also could be a user recieving legitamite files over p2p, or using a some form of web bot used to retrieve information (rss feeds for example) from many sources.</p>
<p>&#8220;Once located, the program automatically tells students they&#8217;ve been caught. Depending on the school, this can lead to a range of punishments, such as a temporary ban from the system.&#8221; </p>
<p>- Just what we need robot police supplied by the *AA&#8217;s. </p>
<p>-Gues it can&#8217;t be the second or their would be too many false positives and the university could have quite a few legal battles on  it&#8217;as hands.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/12018/comment-page-1#comment-137133</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 15:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ever heard of an intrusion detection system? Analyzing packet content has been a widely accepted practice in the security field for about 15 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ever heard of an intrusion detection system? Analyzing packet content has been a widely accepted practice in the security field for about 15 years.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/12018/comment-page-1#comment-137130</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 14:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>its for the good of the MAFIAA!
Who cares about tiny details like &quot;is this even legal?&quot;!
Remember NSAT&amp;T, so why do you even dare to ask if it is just in such a tiny closed environment like a campus wide LAN.

I&#039;m sure the university guys have some nice papers the students sign automaticly at the beginning of a schoolyear where those concerns like privacy and anonymous non-monitored comunication by the students is waived.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its for the good of the MAFIAA!<br />
Who cares about tiny details like &#8220;is this even legal?&#8221;!<br />
Remember NSAT&#038;T, so why do you even dare to ask if it is just in such a tiny closed environment like a campus wide LAN.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure the university guys have some nice papers the students sign automaticly at the beginning of a schoolyear where those concerns like privacy and anonymous non-monitored comunication by the students is waived.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/12018/comment-page-1#comment-137129</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 13:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would someone care to explain how this is even legal?</description>
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