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	<title>Comments on: Will Canada ban camcorders?</title>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/12165/comment-page-1#comment-138076</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 17:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I agree that theaters can prohibit speaking and the use of cameras, radio, cel phones and any device that interfere with other&#039;s ability to enjoy a movie, a sign saying which devices and behaviour are not allowed and that the theater may eject anyone from the theater is allright with me.

Most theaters and restaurants and many businesses in my neighborhood have a sign saying that management reserves the right of admission. No one complains about this, and no law is involved

Now, jumping from the traditional rights business have to making undesirable behavior a criminal act is something else.

Surely a drunk who is bothering other customers should be expelled from a theater, restaurant r whatever. But criminilizing nuisance behaviour is a very serious matter, and is best not done, least of all for the purpose of doing a favor to the filmakers from other countries, unless we want half the population in jail.

Rafael Venegas
gvenegas.com

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I agree that theaters can prohibit speaking and the use of cameras, radio, cel phones and any device that interfere with other&#8217;s ability to enjoy a movie, a sign saying which devices and behaviour are not allowed and that the theater may eject anyone from the theater is allright with me.</p>
<p>Most theaters and restaurants and many businesses in my neighborhood have a sign saying that management reserves the right of admission. No one complains about this, and no law is involved</p>
<p>Now, jumping from the traditional rights business have to making undesirable behavior a criminal act is something else.</p>
<p>Surely a drunk who is bothering other customers should be expelled from a theater, restaurant r whatever. But criminilizing nuisance behaviour is a very serious matter, and is best not done, least of all for the purpose of doing a favor to the filmakers from other countries, unless we want half the population in jail.</p>
<p>Rafael Venegas<br />
gvenegas.com</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/12165/comment-page-1#comment-138025</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 21:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I am not supportive of much the motion picture has to say on political issues, I think we shouldn&#039;t be so strongly opposed to changes simply because they come from untrustworthy organizations.

I wrote about the camcordering issue in a recent BLOG article:

USTR 2007 Special 301 Report: accepting the good while rejecting the bad.
http://www.digital-copyright.ca/node/3910

&quot;While I don&#039;t agree with the focus on camcordering in theaters, I believe that we do need laws to more generally help business and private owners to disallow recording devices. The City of Ottawa owned pools have signs as you enter the change rooms prohibiting the use of recording devices, and strong legislation to punish anyone who breaks this privacy-protecting rule should exist. The same law that protects the privacy of people in change rooms can also be used to protect the interests of copyright holders. Copyright holders would have a ban on recording devices within theaters as part of their contract with the theaters, and the theaters would have a strongly legally protected right to ban recording devices from their theaters. We historically had laws prohibiting &quot;wiretapping&quot; which needs to be expanded to include all recording devices (Video is seen by citizens to be more personal than audio) and not be limited to only the government (private-sector infringement of our rights is still an infringement of our rights). We don&#039;t need every tool that a copyright holder might use to protect their rights to be embedded in the copyright act. This only bloats an already excessively complex act that needs to have &quot;clarifying and simplifying the Act&quot; put as a primary goal of any amendments changes.&quot;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I am not supportive of much the motion picture has to say on political issues, I think we shouldn&#8217;t be so strongly opposed to changes simply because they come from untrustworthy organizations.</p>
<p>I wrote about the camcordering issue in a recent BLOG article:</p>
<p>USTR 2007 Special 301 Report: accepting the good while rejecting the bad.<br />
<a href="http://www.digital-copyright.ca/node/3910" rel="nofollow">http://www.digital-copyright.ca/node/3910</a></p>
<p>&#8220;While I don&#8217;t agree with the focus on camcordering in theaters, I believe that we do need laws to more generally help business and private owners to disallow recording devices. The City of Ottawa owned pools have signs as you enter the change rooms prohibiting the use of recording devices, and strong legislation to punish anyone who breaks this privacy-protecting rule should exist. The same law that protects the privacy of people in change rooms can also be used to protect the interests of copyright holders. Copyright holders would have a ban on recording devices within theaters as part of their contract with the theaters, and the theaters would have a strongly legally protected right to ban recording devices from their theaters. We historically had laws prohibiting &#8220;wiretapping&#8221; which needs to be expanded to include all recording devices (Video is seen by citizens to be more personal than audio) and not be limited to only the government (private-sector infringement of our rights is still an infringement of our rights). We don&#8217;t need every tool that a copyright holder might use to protect their rights to be embedded in the copyright act. This only bloats an already excessively complex act that needs to have &#8220;clarifying and simplifying the Act&#8221; put as a primary goal of any amendments changes.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/12165/comment-page-1#comment-138014</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 16:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know WHY??? Because Sony cameras are loaded with DRM devices that the company states make YOUR photos THEIR property!!! Canon, as far as I know at this time, has no such devices......YET.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know WHY??? Because Sony cameras are loaded with DRM devices that the company states make YOUR photos THEIR property!!! Canon, as far as I know at this time, has no such devices&#8230;&#8230;YET.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/12165/comment-page-1#comment-138005</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 05:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So is it legal to bring a camera into a theatre??

Cause if it is illegal why bother with the hassles of buging us about it.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So is it legal to bring a camera into a theatre??</p>
<p>Cause if it is illegal why bother with the hassles of buging us about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/12165/comment-page-1#comment-137996</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 23:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>100% of the people who have consumed bread or a bread product have DIED!!!

BAN BREAD!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>100% of the people who have consumed bread or a bread product have DIED!!!</p>
<p>BAN BREAD!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/12165/comment-page-1#comment-137993</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 21:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cameras cause child pornography.

Fertilizer causes terrorism.

Motor vehicles cause traffic deaths.

Flatware, food, and plates cause obesity.

Guns and knives cause murder.

Scientists cause disease in laboratory animals (This one is true).

Yippee, is the government going to ban all of these too?
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<p>Fertilizer causes terrorism.</p>
<p>Motor vehicles cause traffic deaths.</p>
<p>Flatware, food, and plates cause obesity.</p>
<p>Guns and knives cause murder.</p>
<p>Scientists cause disease in laboratory animals (This one is true).</p>
<p>Yippee, is the government going to ban all of these too?</p>
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