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	<title>Comments on: Fair use? It&#8217;s a joke</title>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/12284/comment-page-1#comment-138579</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 04:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not necessarily.  Most (if not all) of these look like they are from VHS tapes.  All someone would need to do is to hook up a VCR to a TV tuner card to record these into a digital format.  Whether or not the cards recognize Macrovision is beyond me, but if the creator used an old VCR that didn&#039;t have automatic gain control, or used a TV tuner card that doesn&#039;t recognize Macrovision, then the DMCA has not been violated.  The same thing could be pulled off with a standalone DVD player (again assuming the card does not recognize Macrovision).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not necessarily.  Most (if not all) of these look like they are from VHS tapes.  All someone would need to do is to hook up a VCR to a TV tuner card to record these into a digital format.  Whether or not the cards recognize Macrovision is beyond me, but if the creator used an old VCR that didn&#8217;t have automatic gain control, or used a TV tuner card that doesn&#8217;t recognize Macrovision, then the DMCA has not been violated.  The same thing could be pulled off with a standalone DVD player (again assuming the card does not recognize Macrovision).</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/12284/comment-page-1#comment-138568</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 19:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it isn&#039;t illegal to possess a decrypted DeCSS disk, it is the process that makes it illegal.

That is why they are trying to make civil filesharing, criminal, then it is illegal to both circumvent the disk, AND possess it.

it seems the DoJ is also wanting to make thinking about possessing it a crime.  


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it isn&#8217;t illegal to possess a decrypted DeCSS disk, it is the process that makes it illegal.</p>
<p>That is why they are trying to make civil filesharing, criminal, then it is illegal to both circumvent the disk, AND possess it.</p>
<p>it seems the DoJ is also wanting to make thinking about possessing it a crime.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 13:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe they will be too busy suing Hamas for Farfur.</description>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/12284/comment-page-1#comment-138549</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 19:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>

... this doesn&#039;t look as if the disney sources he used were &quot;camed in canada&quot; and I doubt that the copyrightowner hiself provided them with those clips.
Actually the sources looked more like &quot;perfectly digital copies&quot; from DVDs. &quot;Got DeCSS? :P


DVD, CSS, DMCA
Hhmm. If Disney don&#039;t get him for copyrightinfringement since the fair use defense should clearly work in this example maybe they get the guy for violating the DMCA in circumventing the content scramble system to get the clips he used.

This devils advocate Point of view was proudly presented by Alter_Fritz without any copyprotection and under a share alike license :-)




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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; this doesn&#8217;t look as if the disney sources he used were &#8220;camed in canada&#8221; and I doubt that the copyrightowner hiself provided them with those clips.<br />
Actually the sources looked more like &#8220;perfectly digital copies&#8221; from DVDs. &#8220;Got DeCSS? <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>DVD, CSS, DMCA<br />
Hhmm. If Disney don&#8217;t get him for copyrightinfringement since the fair use defense should clearly work in this example maybe they get the guy for violating the DMCA in circumventing the content scramble system to get the clips he used.</p>
<p>This devils advocate Point of view was proudly presented by Alter_Fritz without any copyprotection and under a share alike license <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 18:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now the creators should put a Donate button on youtube for the work they did, cause they&#039;re sure gonna need the money for when Disney sues them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now the creators should put a Donate button on youtube for the work they did, cause they&#8217;re sure gonna need the money for when Disney sues them.</p>
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