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		<title>By: Christopher John Hobby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher John Hobby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 16:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Those who control the media control what is published.  This is true to the same extent in cyberspace.  I have experienced it myself  on http://www.saatchi-gallery.co.uk for over two years.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I had been stalked on there by someone who i later discovered and proved with evidence, was also impostoring me elsewhere on the internet.  The impostor attacked other members of the saatchi artists website, using my name and giving details about me in his attempt to convince others he was really me.   This developed into a full scale war of a group of people attacking, harassing and abusing me, with malicious and libelous publications mentioning me by my full names, which, inevitably found their way into google searches of my name.  Over the period of two years of this abuse, dozens of times a day on a daily basis, my google rating fell from over 120 thousand results, to a mere handful today.  I first reported the matter to the Police in july 2007, and as i had evidence as to who my main stalker was, he received a formal written Police warning.  He broke the warning the next day and continued on his rampage to further destroy my life and career, also of my partners, with a stronger campaign against me, this time brazen enough to use his real name.  He elicited the assistance of several others on the website.  I can now see, in hindsight, that he had impostored me and attacked the people he was befriending, posing as me, and then befriending them as himself and sending them private messages, telling them lies about me to win them over to his cause.  This caused several outright wars on Charles Saatchis website, with death threats galore, revelaing our names, addresses and telephone numbers,  that caused Saatchi to close their forums and chatroom on two ocassions.  Last week they closed it again.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In april of this year, after making untrue and unlawful criminal allegations, naming both myself and my partner, published in Saatchi, by the main stalker and his main accomplice, this lead to the two of them being arrested a total of three times, but it did not stop the stalking and harassment and libel.  Which continued by other registered members of the website.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Last year, Saatchi would censor and remove many of my postings, and then banned me entirely from the website for having the audacity to speak my mind, as is my right of reply.  But Charles Saatchi i have read on the internet, is a member of a powerful group of people, known as the St. John&#039;s Wood Mafia, and to a great extent they have control over the media.&lt;br /&gt;
Angered by being denied my freedom of expression, I decided to create a visual factual novel of what had transpired on his website over the previous year.  I created pop art comedy noir cartoons feauturing a design i had created, my artistic impression of the mushroom - the Phallus impudicus !    I had screenshots of chat sessions, forum thread and magazine blogs that had libelled and attacked and threatened me, and knew the identities of many of those people.  I found images of these people freely available in the public domain of the internet, and used these as heads on the mushrooms, with balloons coming out of their mouths, saying the things they said to me in chat, and published online.  I also composed my own music and created a youtube animated video, with a link to a flickr account that had large individual images which i had created for the animation.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Once in awhile I would use an internet cafe to observe what whas going on, and in chat one day, someone told me, why are you here, you are banned.  Neeraj, Saatchi admin, is going to see that you go to jail, and he has arranged for your flickr account with those images to be terminated.  Two days later, flickr did indeed terminate my account.  I immediately signed up for another flickr account, and several days later they also terminated that account.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;On the 11th October, 2008, a anonymous author published a front page magazine blog, approved by saatchi, as they now have filters and leave a message that they will not post rubbish when you go to post a blog.  The image was described in the blog as a depiction of myself and my partner.  Since its publication another war has ensued that has again forced Saatchi to close down its forums, also with the message that members meanwhile should post in the magazine blog section.  Therefore, this one magazine blog has since the 11th october, drawn almost 600 comments, that attack me still further.  There are plenty of comments in support of me, and the blog now contains a good outline of what has been going on for over two years on that website.  On the day of the publication of that image, I made a formal complaint, on the grounds of indecency and obscenity, to Belgravia Police Station.  The result is that the image, and the harassing blog is still live online.  You can see it on the following link, and I would appreciate your comments on my rights being taken away from me.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;www.saatchi-gallery.co.uk/blogon/drupal/node/32943&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The blog is being deflected by my attackers, and lots of rubbish is being posted, but if you search through it, you will find some gems of information.  Emails to saatchi from my solicitor, and saatchi lying about an agreement they made with him.  Email from Saatchi PR  to a USA journalist Craig S. Bland, denying any knowledge of what had been happening on their website, and other links to proof of what has been going.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Saatchi is still allowing me to be a scapegoat, even after proving to them all that i had my computer admittedly hacked by my stalker and proved he was my impostor.  They refuse to accept the truth and have flawed memories of events, and continue to publicly name and falsely shame and attack me.  It seems that i am rapidly becoming something i do not wish to be, an internet legend.  I wish I could stop this, but have failed to find a way to do so.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You can see the life and work of myself and my partner, here :-&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;http://www.artreview.com/profile/VioletWaterDragonProductions&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thank you for your time, and i would appreciate any helpful advice.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those who control the media control what is published.  This is true to the same extent in cyberspace.  I have experienced it myself  on <a href="http://www.saatchi-gallery.co.uk" rel="nofollow">http://www.saatchi-gallery.co.uk</a> for over two years.</p>
<p>I had been stalked on there by someone who i later discovered and proved with evidence, was also impostoring me elsewhere on the internet.  The impostor attacked other members of the saatchi artists website, using my name and giving details about me in his attempt to convince others he was really me.   This developed into a full scale war of a group of people attacking, harassing and abusing me, with malicious and libelous publications mentioning me by my full names, which, inevitably found their way into google searches of my name.  Over the period of two years of this abuse, dozens of times a day on a daily basis, my google rating fell from over 120 thousand results, to a mere handful today.  I first reported the matter to the Police in july 2007, and as i had evidence as to who my main stalker was, he received a formal written Police warning.  He broke the warning the next day and continued on his rampage to further destroy my life and career, also of my partners, with a stronger campaign against me, this time brazen enough to use his real name.  He elicited the assistance of several others on the website.  I can now see, in hindsight, that he had impostored me and attacked the people he was befriending, posing as me, and then befriending them as himself and sending them private messages, telling them lies about me to win them over to his cause.  This caused several outright wars on Charles Saatchis website, with death threats galore, revelaing our names, addresses and telephone numbers,  that caused Saatchi to close their forums and chatroom on two ocassions.  Last week they closed it again.</p>
<p>In april of this year, after making untrue and unlawful criminal allegations, naming both myself and my partner, published in Saatchi, by the main stalker and his main accomplice, this lead to the two of them being arrested a total of three times, but it did not stop the stalking and harassment and libel.  Which continued by other registered members of the website.</p>
<p>Last year, Saatchi would censor and remove many of my postings, and then banned me entirely from the website for having the audacity to speak my mind, as is my right of reply.  But Charles Saatchi i have read on the internet, is a member of a powerful group of people, known as the St. John&#8217;s Wood Mafia, and to a great extent they have control over the media.<br />
Angered by being denied my freedom of expression, I decided to create a visual factual novel of what had transpired on his website over the previous year.  I created pop art comedy noir cartoons feauturing a design i had created, my artistic impression of the mushroom &#8211; the Phallus impudicus !    I had screenshots of chat sessions, forum thread and magazine blogs that had libelled and attacked and threatened me, and knew the identities of many of those people.  I found images of these people freely available in the public domain of the internet, and used these as heads on the mushrooms, with balloons coming out of their mouths, saying the things they said to me in chat, and published online.  I also composed my own music and created a youtube animated video, with a link to a flickr account that had large individual images which i had created for the animation.</p>
<p>Once in awhile I would use an internet cafe to observe what whas going on, and in chat one day, someone told me, why are you here, you are banned.  Neeraj, Saatchi admin, is going to see that you go to jail, and he has arranged for your flickr account with those images to be terminated.  Two days later, flickr did indeed terminate my account.  I immediately signed up for another flickr account, and several days later they also terminated that account.</p>
<p>On the 11th October, 2008, a anonymous author published a front page magazine blog, approved by saatchi, as they now have filters and leave a message that they will not post rubbish when you go to post a blog.  The image was described in the blog as a depiction of myself and my partner.  Since its publication another war has ensued that has again forced Saatchi to close down its forums, also with the message that members meanwhile should post in the magazine blog section.  Therefore, this one magazine blog has since the 11th october, drawn almost 600 comments, that attack me still further.  There are plenty of comments in support of me, and the blog now contains a good outline of what has been going on for over two years on that website.  On the day of the publication of that image, I made a formal complaint, on the grounds of indecency and obscenity, to Belgravia Police Station.  The result is that the image, and the harassing blog is still live online.  You can see it on the following link, and I would appreciate your comments on my rights being taken away from me.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.saatchi-gallery.co.uk/blogon/drupal/node/32943" rel="nofollow">http://www.saatchi-gallery.co.uk/blogon/drupal/node/32943</a></p>
<p>The blog is being deflected by my attackers, and lots of rubbish is being posted, but if you search through it, you will find some gems of information.  Emails to saatchi from my solicitor, and saatchi lying about an agreement they made with him.  Email from Saatchi PR  to a USA journalist Craig S. Bland, denying any knowledge of what had been happening on their website, and other links to proof of what has been going.</p>
<p>Saatchi is still allowing me to be a scapegoat, even after proving to them all that i had my computer admittedly hacked by my stalker and proved he was my impostor.  They refuse to accept the truth and have flawed memories of events, and continue to publicly name and falsely shame and attack me.  It seems that i am rapidly becoming something i do not wish to be, an internet legend.  I wish I could stop this, but have failed to find a way to do so.</p>
<p>You can see the life and work of myself and my partner, here :-</p>
<p><a href="http://www.artreview.com/profile/VioletWaterDragonProductions" rel="nofollow">http://www.artreview.com/profile/VioletWaterDragonProductions</a></p>
<p>Thank you for your time, and i would appreciate any helpful advice.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/12531/comment-page-1#comment-139603</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 10:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well as my dad has said on many occasions&quot;You can sue anyone, anywhere at anytime here in America....but the KEY is being able to WIN!&quot; 

It is much harder to win a lawsuit than it is to start one.

I don&#039;t think judges are entirely stupid (most anyway)... they can realize when someone is suing just because they don&#039;t like what is written about them. 

So again, just because these people sue...does NOT guarantee them a victory in court....especially when some of the reasons are so frivolus that they can be thrown out of court at anytime. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well as my dad has said on many occasions&#8221;You can sue anyone, anywhere at anytime here in America&#8230;.but the KEY is being able to WIN!&#8221; </p>
<p>It is much harder to win a lawsuit than it is to start one.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think judges are entirely stupid (most anyway)&#8230; they can realize when someone is suing just because they don&#8217;t like what is written about them. </p>
<p>So again, just because these people sue&#8230;does NOT guarantee them a victory in court&#8230;.especially when some of the reasons are so frivolus that they can be thrown out of court at anytime.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/12531/comment-page-1#comment-139562</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 01:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> might not have got thru.

check http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/art/2007/06/saatchi_liked_my_art_so_much.html

and see how although its supposed to be my blog, im censored from commenting on it, because i complained that i didnt write the title. the guardian online contacted me and asked me to write a blog. i sent them  a blog, and they asked if they could rewrite it. i agreed to a rewrite, and the journalist and i went through it on the fone together, which was probably a mistake, in hindsight. then when i saw it was online, they had made a title up which i had never said or written or agreed to. it sounded like it was my words. 
i emailed them and asked them to change it, but they said that because   there were no quotes on it that it was a title and not a misquote. i know papers do that stuff all the time, but because it was me, it felt different.

My artwork deals with internet communication and future horrors, and  this was all starting to feel abit close to what im interested in (and scared by)

i started leaving comments (on &#039;my own blog&#039;) saying how i hadnt written it and that the title was completely made up by the people at the guardian. 
the comments i left were promptly deleted or edited and no mention was left on the blog by the moderator to show that they had been edited in that way.

I started accusing them of censorship, and these comments were deleted also, but luckily not before other people had seen them, so it started a debate on the guardian&#039;s free speach policy stuff. i got a few kind phone calls from a moderator who tried to sort it out ( the mods were great over the fone) they actually tried to change the title, and it was changed, so everything was ok.

then i was on my way home and i got a call from another guy at the guardian. he was the one who had rewritten the article with me over the phone. (he had also been friendly untill this point)

he said he was puzzled by what had been happening on the web blog, and i said everything had been sorted out and appologised for the trouble. he continued to tell me that i shouldnt go accusing a national newspaper of censorship and that i could get sued. he also threatened to take the blog offline. i told him that it might be easier for him if he did, but i didnt care either way. 

check the blog for more details. im really sick of getting censored.

the reason i post here is because my great friend fil has been following this site for a great many years and said that truth could be found without censorship or moderation except for spelling mistakes. and this community would listen. thankyou.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>might not have got thru.</p>
<p>check <a href="http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/art/2007/06/saatchi_liked_my_art_so_much.html" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/art/2007/06/saatchi_liked_my_art_so_much.html</a></p>
<p>and see how although its supposed to be my blog, im censored from commenting on it, because i complained that i didnt write the title. the guardian online contacted me and asked me to write a blog. i sent them  a blog, and they asked if they could rewrite it. i agreed to a rewrite, and the journalist and i went through it on the fone together, which was probably a mistake, in hindsight. then when i saw it was online, they had made a title up which i had never said or written or agreed to. it sounded like it was my words.<br />
i emailed them and asked them to change it, but they said that because   there were no quotes on it that it was a title and not a misquote. i know papers do that stuff all the time, but because it was me, it felt different.</p>
<p>My artwork deals with internet communication and future horrors, and  this was all starting to feel abit close to what im interested in (and scared by)</p>
<p>i started leaving comments (on &#8216;my own blog&#8217;) saying how i hadnt written it and that the title was completely made up by the people at the guardian.<br />
the comments i left were promptly deleted or edited and no mention was left on the blog by the moderator to show that they had been edited in that way.</p>
<p>I started accusing them of censorship, and these comments were deleted also, but luckily not before other people had seen them, so it started a debate on the guardian&#8217;s free speach policy stuff. i got a few kind phone calls from a moderator who tried to sort it out ( the mods were great over the fone) they actually tried to change the title, and it was changed, so everything was ok.</p>
<p>then i was on my way home and i got a call from another guy at the guardian. he was the one who had rewritten the article with me over the phone. (he had also been friendly untill this point)</p>
<p>he said he was puzzled by what had been happening on the web blog, and i said everything had been sorted out and appologised for the trouble. he continued to tell me that i shouldnt go accusing a national newspaper of censorship and that i could get sued. he also threatened to take the blog offline. i told him that it might be easier for him if he did, but i didnt care either way. </p>
<p>check the blog for more details. im really sick of getting censored.</p>
<p>the reason i post here is because my great friend fil has been following this site for a great many years and said that truth could be found without censorship or moderation except for spelling mistakes. and this community would listen. thankyou.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/12531/comment-page-1#comment-139546</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 14:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m posting this again because I wasn&#039;t registered before and my posting name came up as:  &quot;Anonymous Coward&quot;.    Can&#039;t have that.


Well done. Well written. Well said. I agree that we are in some very interesting times now and the changes we are engulfed are most certainly scaring the crap out of the big boys who are clinging desperately to their power and control. We will win. It won&#039;t happen overnight but we&#039;ll get there. Keep up the good work. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m posting this again because I wasn&#8217;t registered before and my posting name came up as:  &#8220;Anonymous Coward&#8221;.    Can&#8217;t have that.</p>
<p>Well done. Well written. Well said. I agree that we are in some very interesting times now and the changes we are engulfed are most certainly scaring the crap out of the big boys who are clinging desperately to their power and control. We will win. It won&#8217;t happen overnight but we&#8217;ll get there. Keep up the good work.</p>
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