IMHO, the (slight) majority of doctors and nurses ARE NOT AT FAULT. Many are stuck doing mandated paperwork for the hospital, government, and insurance companies. I remember as a child when the county health department provided most of its services for free. Now days, these services are very expensive. Insurance companies just about run the state government where I live. What is needed is not more government regulation, but rather more competition.

The current health care providers have a near monopoly on the health of the people. The damned government is even trying to take away nutritional and alternative treatments and cures. The AHCA (Agency for Health Care Administration) determines how many hospitals are allowed to open in a certain area. Rather than increasing government involvement in the medical and insurance industries, I propose getting the government almost completely out of it. This also includes licensing doctors and medical facilities. Rather than being licensed, Doctors, nurses, and medical facilities should be certified. Certification would mean that doctors, nurses, and medical facilities meet a certain minimum standard of excellence. This would mean that ANYONE would be allowed to “practice medicine” but only those who meet certain standards would be allowed to carry the seal of state certification.

I understand that not licensing health care professionals would mean that quacks, incompetent practitioners, and outright criminal would have a chance of fleecing the population. This is why I recommend a program of certification. Customers would have the right to ask to see the certification before receiving services from a specific health care professional. Word of mouth (as well as lawsuits) will also do good to weed out the bad actors.
Health care professionals as well as patients should determine how many and what kind of hospitals, clinics, and services that are allowed in a specific area, not government or insurance commissars.

I know of one doctor in my area who work over 15 years providing quality care to his patients. He had passed his Florida physician licensure exam and set up practice. After about 15 years in practice, it came to light that he never went to medical school. Instead of learning in a high priced school situation, he learned from books, etc. The point is that he had enough knowledge to pass the state medical exam.

The point is that the United State has become EXACTLY was the founders FOUGHT AGAINST. We the people have no representation in government, the legal system, or the medical system. Competition works. One only has to look at what is happening with the entertainment industry. We have the high priced corporate products filled with low quality fillers, DRM, advertisements, etc. which is supported by the government. On the other hand we have the higher quality product without much of the advertisements, DRM, etc. that is distributed online. We need to have similar choices with our food as well as our health care.

Michael Moore does well to point out the problems with our health care system. As far as the problem is concerned, he is right on target. The system is LOUSY (with few exceptions) as far as the patents are concerned.
However, I strongly disagree with him on his proposed solution.

The problem, at least for justice and healthcare is that they have becomes businesses run for direct profit and very high salaries on the one hand and very poor service, wrking conditions and salaries on the other hand.

But at the same time a huge amount of money is spent on armamets needed to police the world according to Bush-Chaney priorities (corporate profits and oil control?).

A more social education, legal and heath system should be mandated by the people, but… too bad the people’s vote is worthless vis-a-vis lobbies.

So your wife is running an healthinsurance company out of your basement too?

If not, then is your argument just a Strawmen to blur the point of the film

Because Mr. Moore’s film is about the business of healthinsurance taking money in, and being more interested in filling the companies shareholder pockets with it instead of spending most of it on sick people where only a minimal percentage is spend for administrative stuff of the company.
The american healthinsurance system hasn’t the overall well being of patients in mind, but the well being of the people that own those companies.

Your wife and sister belong to an exceedingly moot __MINORITY__!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Doctors and nurses that have ‘cared’ for me didin’t give a ratz azz about anything but money and getting their shifts done; respectively. As a result, I’m yet another casualty of poor/non-existant health care!!!

My late husband was __KILLED__ by “doctors” who’s only bottom line was there wallets and greedy-azzed pharmaceutical companies!!!!!

So to the poster quoted in this article that the VA has effectively murdered him, my sincerest condolences for you and your family.

My wife is a doctor. I know personally that in at least her case this statement is pure bullshit. She puts up with a lot of crap from patients but still bends over backwards to the point of her not taking any money home from her office, working for free, so that she could make people healthier. She cares nothing whatsoever about the money (although I’ve wished she’d do so a bit more, her bills need to be paid, preferably not from my medical business unrelated salary — and I’ve done that) and only about providing health care. I’ve a nurse sister who has the same attitude.

An “industry” may be money driven (rather much the definition of “industry”, Moore’s movie Industry business is money-driven), but that doesn’t mean the people in it are that way (although there always will be those that are). If you do a movie about the scum of any business, it’ll look bad and that’s what he’s done. It’s not a balanced view overall, it’s crap showing how “good” the bottom 1% is. Did he go to other countries and look for their bottom 1%? No! Their top 1% against our bottom 1%.

Most medical businesses consist of one or a small handful of doctors working for themselves, even if their office has a hospital as his/her landlord. Not mega corporate machines. There are exceptions like perhaps veteran hospitals. But then that’s a government thing, and since when is the government expected to do anything well?