Comments on: JPEG: worth a 1000 words

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Wed, 28 Apr 2004 04:38:53 +0000

No, THIS is stupid.

Well, not really.

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Tue, 27 Apr 2004 01:10:44 +0000

We should all just forget using JPEG or GIF and go for PNG all the way! It’s lossless unlike JPEG and sometimes beats it on compression of photos, and it looks great going all the way up to 24-bit unlike GIF. It even supports transparency which is great for gamers, programmers and artists!

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Mon, 26 Apr 2004 16:28:58 +0000

don’t they display jpeg as well?

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Sun, 25 Apr 2004 23:29:04 +0000

Yes, Very true. The developers must be given their dues big big names !!! Ghani [Karachi-Pakistan]

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Sun, 25 Apr 2004 19:14:06 +0000

It’s a pity that everyone seems to be suing everyone else with regards to patents.

Multimedia formats (I am also thinking audio and video formats) take a lot of people a long time to come up with. Much thought has to go into things like acceptable lossiness, speed of encoding and decoding (especially for portable devices), and file size / quality trade offs. We need to recognise that it is important for companies to be reimbursed financially for this work if we are to see major progress.

But you can’t have your cake and eat it. You can’t put your technology up to be used as a standard without making it blindingly obvious that you intend on charging a license fee for it. The fact is software everywhere uses JPEG images internally. It has been public knowledge about the gif patent issues for a long time, and a lot of development environments dont actually natively support gif images for that reason.

If Jpeg made it clear that their format was not free to use, then no digital camera manufacturer would use the standard, few photo editing programs would bother with it, and we would all use PNG or something like that. Lets just hope the patent office come to their senses and recognise the extortion for what it is. Other patent owners that intend on charging for their formats should be forced to publicise their intention to do so, or lose out on the ability.

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Sun, 25 Apr 2004 18:34:34 +0000

Interesting that missing from this list is Micro$oft.

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Sun, 25 Apr 2004 16:49:39 +0000

this is no different than another image compression algorithym. tiff or giff? I cant recall but there was a big todo over it being used “illegally”

Fact remains though if they own the patent to it and companies aren’t coughing up the dough to use the algorithym then they have a right to sue … no different than mp3 format … royalties are supposed to be payed for the use of it.

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Sun, 25 Apr 2004 08:46:38 +0000

I read somewhere that Microsoft was still deliberating the licensing with them, so I guess that’s why they weren’t sued.. yet.

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Sun, 25 Apr 2004 08:08:10 +0000

JPEG isn’t a IETF Standard it is an ISO standard. Check the readme for libjpeg if you don’t believe me.

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Sun, 25 Apr 2004 07:18:46 +0000

stupid stuff is a waste of time, and a location that will put an obnoxioux tool bar on you browser if you let it.
How Stupid does this one think we are? No more stupid stuff for me.

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Sun, 25 Apr 2004 06:13:17 +0000

“M$ does the right thing”?

That would be nice, but… when was the last time that happened? When they threw away the 3.1 / 95 / 98 kernel and switched to NT/XP for all their OS’s? That was around 4 years ago…

It would be nice though. It just wouldn’t do M$ any good, seeing as they aren’t getting sued right now. Speaking of which, is there any sort of law against buying out a company that tries to sue you?

-Anonymous

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Sun, 25 Apr 2004 03:48:45 +0000

This type of thing is what got PNG started (because of LZW.)
If the “people” want to slap every one on the head, then go PNG!

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Sun, 25 Apr 2004 00:10:18 +0000

The article says:

“Forgent’s intellectual property business has generated approximately $90 million from licensing the ‘672 Patent to 30 different companies in Asia, Europe and the United States.”

Microsoft is probably one of the companies paying them. Maybe they can help with the lawsuit as well.

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Sat, 24 Apr 2004 21:44:58 +0000

No, this is stupid:

http://www.stupidstuff.org

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Sat, 24 Apr 2004 21:03:50 +0000

most of microsoft products use jpg format, the compression patient isn’t just for making the file, it’s for using the algorithm. Take a look at the ads to your left and right, I bet most of them are jpg(s), you can use a jpg as wallpaper on your desktop, you can use a jpg in any office product … the list is endless. I’m hoping the judge throws it out and forces jpg to become public domain, or the computer world just stops using them and their other software products and puts them out of business as a “that will teach you” or even better a hostile take over by M$ then M$ does the right thing and makes jpg public domain.

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Sat, 24 Apr 2004 20:03:54 +0000

JPEG is not a lossless compressor, it is in fact lossy, which means data is lost in compression.

thats why theres a tradeoff between size and quality when using a jpeg compressor.

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Sat, 24 Apr 2004 18:53:13 +0000

*lol* I never use paint, so I just checked, you’re quite right. I bet those morons sueing never opened microsoft paint before either…. Or they’re just scared of M$. I’ll go email them and let them know

*LMAO* @ the loser above getting pissed about the coward thing

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Sat, 24 Apr 2004 18:29:22 +0000

Microsoft paint.

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Sat, 24 Apr 2004 13:13:58 +0000

no, what microsoft product uses jpg to compress images?

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Sat, 24 Apr 2004 11:21:30 +0000

Should I read anything in the fact that Microsoft is not listed on the list of companies to be sued in thid JPEG infringement line-up…?