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RIAA named in first class action

p2pnet news | RIAA News:- In cases which should by rights have been initiated by the Bush government on behalf of innocent families across America, falsely attacked by Warner Music, EMI, Vivendi Universal and Sony BMG, RIAA victims Tanya Andersen and Michelle Santangelo are determined to make the Big 4, as well as companies involved in the sue ‘em all morass, pay, literally and figuratively, for the distress they’ve caused and are still causing.

Andersen, a disabled mother living in Oregon, has launched the first class action against the RIAA and the members of the Big 4 organised music cartel.

And in the second lawsuit, Santangelo, from New York, has filed a cross-suit against Sharman Networks’ Kazaa, AOL and Matthew Seckler, whom she says installed Kazaa software on her computer without her knowledge or permission.

It’s Tanya’s turn

Anderson and her ten-year-old daughter, Kylee, have been harried by the RIAA from pillar to post.

“I think it is really disgusting what the RIAA and these other companies have done to me and people like me,” Andersen told p2pnet today.

“They have made my life a mess, put my life on hold, and created a lot of damage. I’ve been treated like a criminal for something I never did. My life will never be the same. I feel these companies should be ashamed and held responsible for what they have done. I don’t care who someone is, they shouldn’t be allowed to attack an innocent person and make their life a living nightmare.

“I hope what I’m doing can help not only myself, but others like myself, who have been put under this same type of unnecessary attack.”

In a request for class action status which, if and when successful, will ultimately include every one of the 30,000 or so RIAA victims, Andersen and her lawyer, Lory Lybeck (right), are looking to recover compensation for the, “significant damages caused by the Defendants” as well as punitive damages, statutory penalties, litigation fees and expenses and equitable relief.

Her amended complaint is impressive. She’s citing negligence, fraud, negligent misrepresentation, federal and state RICO, abuse of process, malicious prosecution, intentional infliction of emotional distress, violation of the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, trespass, invasion of privacy, libel and slander, deceptive business practices, misuse of copyright law, and civil conspiracy.

On the wrong end of the class action are

  • The RIAA (Recording Industry Association of America)
  • MediaSentry and its owner, SafeNet
  • The Settlement Support Center, a Washington company operating as the debt collection arm for the defendants’ “coordinated enterprise to pursue a scheme of threatening and intimidating litigation”
  • Atlantic Recording Corporation, Priority Records, Capitol Records, UMG Recordings, and BMG Music who filed Atlantic Recording Corp., et al v. Andersen, No. CV 05-933 AS (D Or) action against Andersen

The RIAA, “claims to be a New York not-for-profit corporation,” says Andersen’s court document, going on:

It holds itself out as a trade group that directs and controls its member companies in the filing of thousands of lawsuits against individuals in federal courts across the country. These RIAA controlled member companies are subsidiaries of 4 major companies that monopolize and control the sale of over 90% of all the music that is commercially distributed in the United States. For several years the RIAA has engaged in a coordinated enterprise to pursue a scheme of threatening and intimidating litigation in an attempt to maintain its music distribution monopoly.

MediaSentry, “assists the RIAA and its controlled member companies in their coordinated enterprise to pursue a scheme of threatening and intimidating litigation against tens of thousands of private U.S. citizens,” say Andersen and Lybeck. It also, “conducts illegal, flawed and negligent investigations for the RIAA and its controlled member companies,”they state.

On August 26, 2005, Andersen and her then eight-year-old daughter were, “sitting down to dinner, a legal process server knocked on her door,” says her document. It goes on:

When she answered the door, she was served with a lawsuit filed by RIAA-controlled music distribution companies in a federal court. Ms. Andersen was shocked, afraid, and very distressed. The lawsuit falsely claimed that she owed hundreds of thousands of dollars to these companies as penalties for copyright infringement.

Ms. Andersen knew that she was completely innocent of the charges against her. She answered the false claims and asserted counterclaims seeking damages. During discovery, Ms. Andersen learned that the lawsuit filed against her was based solely upon an illegal, flawed and negligent investigation.

Almost two years later, on the eve of summary judgment, the lawsuit was dismissed with prejudice.

The RIAA is, “composed of 4 major multinational member companies each having many subsidiary member companies,” says her request for class action status, going on:

The RIAA publicly claims to exercise an actual monopoly and control over 90% of the sound recordings sold in the United States.

Defendant MediaSentry is in the business of conducting personally invasive private investigations of private citizens in many states in the U.S. for the RIAA and its controlled member companies. MediaSentry advertises that its services include “investigation” and “litigation support”.

Pursuant to a secret agreement, the RIAA, its controlled member companies and MediaSentry conspired to develop a massive threat and litigation enterprise targeting private citizens across the United States. The RIAA and its controlled member companies have for years aggressively acted to prevent disclosure of the secret agreement and their conspiratorial enterprise. Recently it has been discovered that as a part of this secret enterprise MediaSentry has for years conducted illegal, flawed and negligent investigations of many thousands of private United States citizens. These illegal investigations were and are used as the sole basis for the pursuit of tens of thousands of threatened and actual lawsuits throughout the U.S.

MediaSentry claims to conduct private investigations of private U.S. citizens without authorization and under the false pretext of being a peer user. It claims to employ secret methods to enter individual computers to surreptitiously and illegally gather information on private citizens. In reality and at best, MediaSentry is only capable of identifying an internet protocol (IP) address which it then provides to the RIAA. The RIAA and its controlled member companies then use this illegally obtained information in its public threat and litigation enterprise.

MediaSentry and the RIAA know that their investigations are illegal and flawed. MediaSentry is not licensed or registered to conduct private investigation of private U.S. citizens. Moreover, in a March 2004 sworn deposition MediaSentry’s then president admitted to various serious flaws in the investigative scheme which all Defendants know result in misidentification of individuals. Despite this knowledge, Defendants have falsely represented to many tens of thousands of people that they have been definitively and personally identified as copyright infringers.

Michelle fights back

In what’s probably another first, Santangelo has launched a third party action against Sharman Networks’ Kazaa, the p2p file sharing software implicated in the vast majority of the RIAA sue ‘em all cases.

Sharman, based in Australia, was once itself sued by the Big 4 but is now on their side of the fence.

“It was suggested in Interscope v. Duty that defendants should consider such third party practice,” says Recording Industry vs The People.

Also named is former family friend Matthew Seckler.

Says Santangelo’s court document:

Kazaa operates in the background of one’s computer, seizing information and bandwidth unknown to the user or owner, recklessly disregarding copyright laws and ensnaring unsuspecting users into unintended sharing (as well as creating entire classes of unknowing violators – the parents, for allowing the ‘illegal’ activity to take place not just in

the ‘North 40′of their hard drive, but ‘underground’ because Kazaa’s activity is automatically buried so as to avoid detection; and, the children – such as Defendants herein, who, in listening to their own, rightly-purchased CD’s unknowingly become distributing pirates). Kazaa also blocked the RIAA’s alleged warning notices to unsuspecting users.

Seckler, “loaded the offending program (Kazaa) onto the Santangelo computer without permission: and, “was a trespasser or violator of any conceivable license he might have claimed,” say Santangelo and her lawyer, Jordan Glass.

AOL, “had the opportunity to filter out this material and, in particular, because it is intertwined with Time-Warner, an entertainment behemoth: AOL knew of the industry’s concerns and had already provided certain filters and parental controls (’Controls’) but did not allow the RIAA’s alleged warning messages to pass through such filters.

It also, “failed to use its Controls to prevent illegal downloading, even though it had the information, superior knowledge, ability, skill, techniques, tools, power and authority to prevent such downloading”.

Definitely stay tuned.

Jon Newton - p2pnet

(Revised at 6:00 pm Pacific)

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Also See:
harried by the RIAA - Tanya Andersen sues the RIAA, June 25, 2007
Recording Industry vs The People - Michelle Santangelo to Cross-Sue Against Kazaa and AOL, August 16, 2007


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60 Responses to “RIAA named in first class action”

  1. Reader's Write Says:

    Go GET ‘EM!

  2. Reader's Write Says:

    This was inevitable and it is good to see Ms Andersen leading the way.

  3. Dan Says:

    I wish her the best of luck in the case.

  4. Reader's Write Says:

    This class action is flaming ridiculous. I was cought massively distributing their premium music files and was requested to pay the settlement fee - which I gladly did. In fact, the Settlement Centre was very generous indeed and reduced it from $20k to $10k!

    Remember everyone: if you don’t want to do the time, don’t do the crime. It’s really that simple.

  5. Reader's Write Says:

    nice try “anonymous massive distributor” but absolutely not on topic!
    She was found having done NOTHING!
    She even asked the RIAA bastards to inspect her HDD long before RIAA started with that demand plot in their extortion sheme.

    So if you really were “cought massively distributing their premium music files” instead of just being a troll for them to distract here from the facts, I hope for you, that RIAA will not give your name now to the songwriters and lyricists, cause they might be interested in sqeezing money out of you too, since oyu oviously like it if they give generously discounts!

  6. Mr Toad Says:

    Is it just me that finds that last part of her defence troublesome? I dislike Sharman Networks intensely, and Kazaa was only briefly a useful p2p client, but accusing them of “recklessly disregarding copyright laws” and calling on ISPs like AOL to filter p2p traffic does not seem at all helpful.

  7. Reader's Write Says:

    “nice try “anonymous massive distributor” but absolutely not on topic!
    She was found having done NOTHING!
    She even asked the RIAA bastards to inspect her HDD long before RIAA started with that demand plot in their extortion sheme.

    So if you really were “cought massively distributing their premium music files” instead of just being a troll for them to distract here from the facts, I hope for you, that RIAA will not give your name now to the songwriters and lyricists, cause they might be interested in sqeezing money out of you too, since oyu oviously like it if they give generously discounts!”

    blah blah blah EXCUSES!!!

  8. Reader's Write Says:

    More like YOU are a TROLL “anonymous massive distributor”!

    If you are so stupid that you were caught using a p2p program that most know not to use AND willing to roll over and play dead without any fight in you at all, then you deserve what you get!

    But there are others that will FIGHT this and WIN!

    Quite frankly, I think you are just lying through your teeth! I don’t think you were sued by the music industry at all! I do not think most people who ARE caught and sued have the same “rosy view” you somehow do of the music industry….but then againnobody trolls for the music industry unlessthey have another motive. I wonder what yours is??

  9. Reader's Write Says:

    I see they are closing in on you, then? Really, dude, there’s nowhere to hide. Just give yourself up. There’s that nice p2plawsuits website for people just like you.

  10. Dreddsnik Says:

    ” I was cought massively distributing their premium music files and was requested to pay the settlement fee - which I gladly did. ”

    Good for you.
    Most , however, are guilty of nothing.
    Some are even sued when they have no computer.
    Those who are, in fact, guilty of nothing, should fight.

    EVERYONE who has fought, has won :)

  11. Jon Says:

    Don’t feed the trolls.

    Cheers!

  12. Reader's Write Says:

    Dreddsnik: if they are sued, then it’s because they are guilty. End of story.

  13. Russell McOrmond Says:

    From a purely technological standpoint, creativity and infringement are identical. It is not reasonable to ever try to “control copyright” via third-party control over technology or intermediary filters, and it is entirely a legal matter where individual computer owners need to be held responsible for the activities they carry out on their computers.

    Intermediaries like ISPs or multi-purpose software authors or hardware manufacturers should not be held responsible for not “filtering”, only those who are sharing/publishing/communicating without permission (with or without a computer).

    I would hate to be called as a witness for the defense of Sharman Networks or AOL, but I can’t support the third party finger pointing that Santangelo is doing. It is not like these P2P applications were malware and in any way masking their intended use.

    I oppose the legal protection of unauthorized remote-control over computer hardware (IE: “DRM”), but the flip side of this is that I believe that computer owners should be held legally responsible for activities they carry out using their computers.

  14. Dreddsnik Says:

    ” Dreddsnik: if they are sued, then it’s because they are guilty. End of story. ”

    That must be why EVERYONE who has fought .. has won :)

    Everyone.

    The story is only beginning, and it is the beginning of the end for the record industry.
    Denial is the first stage.

  15. Reader's Write Says:

    Dreddsnik: what’s not reported here, are the THOUSANDS that have lost. Get a grip!

  16. Reader's Write Says:

    Thousands that have lost? You mean those that have caved in….

  17. Dreddsnik Says:

    ” Dreddsnik: what’s not reported here, are the THOUSANDS that have lost. Get a grip! ”

    Lost .. really ?
    Not reported because it’s not happened.
    Only out of court settlements.

    Name a case that someone fought back ( not just settled ) and lost.
    Please provide a link so we all can see.

    Settling out of fear is not the same as fighting back and winning.
    Settling out of court is not an admission of guilt ( ask the bush administration )
    or a ‘victory’ .. never was.

    A person who settles usually does so because they do not have the financial resources
    to fight the industries huge financial engine. Settling meekly, without fighting back,
    is exactly what the industry wants people to do, becuase they know ( and it has been
    proven ) that the RIAA member labels have no case, and will lose is people fight back.

    This has happend every time one of the wrongly accused have fought back.
    EVERYONE who has fought back has beaten the RIAA engine.

    Someone doesn’t have a grip, that’s true.

    The Music industry has lost it’s grip on it’s customers.
    It’s losing it’s butt in court.

    Denial is the first stage.

    ( no worries Jon, it’s not EXACTLY feeding the troll , exchanges like this allow new readers
    to see exactly how little the RIAA shills have to work with. No factual support, no truth
    only recycled industry talking points. Also this gives an opportunity to point newer readers to
    where they can look at the cases the RIAA has lost so far …

    http://recordingindustryvspeople.blogspot.com/

    with even more losses for the RIAA to come. )

  18. Dan Says:

    The person who assumes she was file sharing and treated fairly.

    Please go and look at the lawsuit and read the history of how she got to where she is today (link in this article, with the words “amended complaint is impressive”) . It begins at section 6.26 on page 13. It is nearly unbelievable the hell that the RIAA has put her through.

  19. Dreddsnik Says:

    ” It begins at section 6.26 on page 13. It is nearly unbelievable the hell that the RIAA has put her through. ”

    http://recordingindustryvspeople.blogspot.com/2007/01/how-riaa-litigation-process-works.html

    Complete outline of their financial attrition/fear based strategy.

  20. Reader's Write Says:

    It was the job of the federal governement to prevent this to hapen. But not the governement instead of beeing on th eside of the people are on the side of these parasites because they got paid by them.
    It is time to dismiss this governement and kick the but of these foreign entertainement parasites and the traotrs that work for them.

  21. Reader's Write Says:

    Aww, I’m just a troll for the RIAA. Of course I’m going to say lame and useless “facts” to scare people into a false sense of insecurity and then pillaging them of their wealth before they know what hit them.

    Viva la RIAA!
    Viva la DMCA!
    Viva la’!~$`=#$$***NO CARRIER

  22. Reader's Write Says:

    “This class action is flaming ridiculous. I was cought massively distributing their premium music files and was requested to pay the settlement fee - which I gladly did. In fact, the Settlement Centre was very generous indeed and reduced it from $20k to $10k!”

    Ya right another RIAA drone poluting this forum!

    Tell your master that we are comming for them that they have better to start running now and that if i was you I will go and get a real job that benefit the society instead of helping these parasites before it is too late.

  23. Reader's Write Says:

    “Dreddsnik: what’s not reported here, are the THOUSANDS that have lost. Get a grip!”

    The RIAA is really in trouble because they are sending their army of troll!

    Nobody lost any lawsuit afgainst the RIAA.

    Troll tell you master: The rope is broken start running!! Now!

  24. Reader's Write Says:

    Viva la RIAA/DMCA. The RIAA/DMCA is dying and your business too RIAA troll!

  25. Reader's Write Says:

    “The RIAA is really in trouble because they are sending their army of troll!

    Nobody lost any lawsuit afgainst the RIAA.

    Troll tell you master: The rope is broken start running!! Now!”

    Yet another illiterate rant! You really are hopeless; try learning some English. Big media’s winning, losers!!

  26. Reader's Write Says:

    Believe in my fodder ye peasants! The RIAA shall win each timeth! There is no stopping the giant goliath that is our monopoly!

    We shall always win and overcome the government!

    We will always be above the government!

    The government has no power over us since we enacted the DMCA and we are above the law!

    Above the~~~!%_!$***NO CARRIER

  27. SuperTwit Says:

    You know, it’s amazing how each time that idiot posts something, he seems to get disconnected from the internet…

    One would think of NOT posting yet, it’s amusing to see him write and get cut-off.

    Also, if you’re going to be satirical, at least be original. Espousing the same crap each times just dulls the humor behind the true belief that you may have and makes it sound like you’re reading a script…oh wait, that’s all what the RIAA trolls do anyway, so, nevermind…

    *GRIN*

  28. EdhEsq Says:

    I’m not sure they will achieve broad class action status, however.

    There has to be commonality of claims.

    The wrongfulness of each case brought by the RIAA companies is very dependent on the particular facts.

    There may be broad commonality in the claim against MediaSentry, for instance, if their investigatory methods are ruled trespass or otherwise unlawful. Their activity was a predicate to most of the suits, hence, commonality.

  29. CHRoNoSS Says:

    HAHA, that idiot is funny indeed. Seems you need ot hear this spammed repeatedly.
    EVERY PERSON WHO HAS FOUGHT BACK HAS WON
    EVERY PERSON WHO HAS FOUGHT BACK HAS WON
    EVERY PERSON WHO HAS FOUGHT BACK HAS WON
    EVERY PERSON WHO HAS FOUGHT BACK HAS WON
    EVERY PERSON WHO HAS FOUGHT BACK HAS WON
    EVERY PERSON WHO HAS FOUGHT BACK HAS WON
    EVERY PERSON WHO HAS FOUGHT BACK HAS WON
    EVERY PERSON WHO HAS FOUGHT BACK HAS WON
    EVERY PERSON WHO HAS FOUGHT BACK HAS WON
    EVERY PERSON WHO HAS FOUGHT BACK HAS WON
    EVERY PERSON WHO HAS FOUGHT BACK HAS WON
    ok now guess what i want you to repeat…………

  30. Reader's Write Says:

    Paul, is it you?

    “I am not concerned that people decide to take out law-suits against our organisations; we have the resources to deal with that.”

    http://newmusicstrategies.com/2007/06/14/an-ifpi-bpi-board-member-writes/

  31. The Masked Man Says:

    You Go Girl…………..

  32. Hassan Bin Sober Says:

    Why is everyone so nice to the RIAA? If this had happened to me, I would have hunted down the people and lawyers involved in going after me in the old Chicago style. Nothing like an impending death sentence or a few bloody bodies in the street to clear the head! Assassination is the American way. Screw the lawyers, go get them in your personal way.

  33. Mob MSgt Says:

    Glad to see someone finally picked up the gauntlet and is really going after the bastards. It should have happened a long time ago, but, as has been pointed out, the average person they went after usually didn’t have the money to fight them.

    I would be willing to contribute a few foreskins to the lady’s defense fund just to spite the RIAA and their toadys.

    BTW, have you noticed the tremendous DROP in their litigations since the judge in Sacramento said it was illegal for them to solicit lists of ISP customers who have visited specific web sites?? That lady won too.

    Finally, I gotta the tools, I gotta the skills, I knowa how to finda out where they live….

  34. G-Man Says:

    Record companies have made billions by selling you albums with only one good recording, and now they’re crying because they may only make millions, Humm!! In this age of technilogical advances some brainstorming on how to make a profit over the internet could saved all the lawsuits against mostly good people.
    Then to top that off they align themselfs with a group of backstabing, truth twisting, butt kissing criminals who terrorize the same people who paid their claim to fame. Well I hope this works in a positive way for the consumer.

    Further I don’t know of any top artist who can claim welfare because he or she only recieved a few million from a release, but I can point to many families who are one paycheck away from being homeless!! The more countersuits class action type the better!!!

  35. Thegreatdeceiver Says:

    If the record cartels insist how this lady did so much damage with a cheap computer and high speed internet hookup (the phone modem is slower than molasses) then HER BUTTSHIT KIDS must be geniuses at this stuff.

    A typical p2p file sharing program is slower than molasses because simply stated the laws of physics have not been repealed in the sense that there is no way a fly by night filesharing website on the internet can be fast when you consider there are THOUSANDS of people using the website at the same time.

    I have a home assembled computer and all of my equipment was state of the art a couple of years ago that cost me less than a thousand dollars per computer to build with a lan hookup and a roadrunner high speed internet hookup and a high speed cable modem by motorola.

    I like downloading bit torrent files because i like downloading avi compressed videos and large music files like whole cds that average 700mb and even that takes FOREVER TO DOWNLOAD.

    I mean i have to work for a living and who’s got the FUCKING TIME ?

  36. Reader's Write Says:

    I’m glad to see someone’s turning the tables on these criminal tyrants. If it goes through, it could very well see the end of the lawsuits.

    However, I’m a little disappointed with Michelle’s claims. As Russell McOrmond pointed out, technology companies like Sharman Networks, AOL, etc., are not legally obligated to filter infringing activities, and people need to take responsibility for their own actions (even if they are completely innocent). And suing Matthew Seckler for installing the software? If she’s serious about holding him liable for damages simply for installing the software on her computer, she’s no better than them.

    All things considered, I really hope she wins her case against the RIAA, without resorting to the same extortion schemes against third parties.

  37. Dreddsnik Says:

    ” And suing Matthew Seckler for installing the software? If she’s serious about holding him liable for damages simply for installing the software on her computer, she’s no better than them. ”

    Here is the link to the article at RIVP.

    Read the comments and note Jordan Glass’ response.
    It should help explain Matthew Seckler’s presence in the suit.

    http://recordingindustryvspeople.blogspot.com/2007/08/michelle-santangelo-to-cross-sue.html

  38. Reader's Write Says:

    I have been watching this for awhile, and I am wondering if the next leadership of this county will let big business get away with what they have been getting away with, with the current leadership. I have seen beg business get away with alot seen Bush has been in office. The people will not, and should not stand for this type of harassment. There are two sides to every story, but I believe that the RIAA is in the wrong. They should have paid attention to it along time ago, and started to find ways around it, not bite the hands that feed you.

  39. mark Says:

    parents are being sued for their kids tuition money, I know I was. I had no Idea my daughter was doing something illegal, the RIAA didnt bat an eye when they took my sons and duaghters money for paramedic school. The RIAA is heartless, I can’t listen to music anymore it makes me sick, when I here an artist sing of their roots, or middle America, when they could give a rats ass about the middle class it makes my blood boil.

  40. Lars Says:

    You are all thieves

  41. Reader's Write Says:

    “if they are sued, then it’s because they are guilty. End of story.”

    No you are a TROLL…end of story!

  42. Reader's Write Says:

    End of story is your a jerk, how is a kid supposed to know he or she is file sharing, if you look over your kids shoulder 24/7 how are they supposed to grow. You probably make your kids were a helmet aruond the house!

  43. Reader's Write Says:

    Interesting how the guilty file sharers are all coming out of the closet here… Your are all damaging music. p2p is wrong, so just stop it, ok?

    Also, be aware that p2pnet has a deal with the good people at the RIAA/MPAA. p2pnet logs the IP address of everyone that posts here and then hands it over to the RIAA/MPAA. They then use this information to track you pirates down when you massively distribute their premium products over p2p. It’s a brilliant plan!

  44. Reader's Write Says:

    You must be an agent of the RIAA, you sound as heartless as them. Kids do make mistakes, my daughter is not a thieve she is a 20 year old EMT/firefighter, my son is a 23 year old firefighter/paramedic, they put thier lives on the line everyday saving lives! My daughter was a kid when she downloaded music, she owns over 95% of the CDs of which she downloaded songs. The people of the RIAA which you call” good “didn”t even have the BALLS to speek to me personaly, they use collection agents to do thier dirty work for them. I paid them $3750.00. My kids are my heros not the drunk, drug crazed ,so called artist, the RIAA represents. Every red-blooded American should be up-in-arms that the RIAA uses the word America in its title.

  45. Dreddsnik Says:

    ” she owns over 95% of the CDs of which she downloaded songs. ”

    That’s why they can’t sue you for downloading.
    That’s where they failed in the Cecelia Gonzalez case, and had to drop nearly all
    of the counts of infringement against her. It was a brutal blow to the RIAA legal campaign.

    That is why they are pushing so hard to get “Making Available ” an actionable offense.
    With “MAking Available” as an actionable offense they can sue just because the files
    are visible on a shared list .. no one has to DL at all.

    ” I paid them $3750.00. ”

    As tough as it seems, you shouldn’t have.

    Everyone, that is EVERYONE who has stood up to them has won in court.

    Everyone.

    ” Also, be aware that p2pnet has a deal with the good people at the RIAA/MPAA. p2pnet logs the IP address of everyone that posts here and then hands it over to the RIAA/MPAA. ”

    Gachnar just signed his name for us.

  46. me Says:

    @ the idiot RIAA spambot

    then please dont leave me out! i will post here so that my IP is available to p2pnet, then i can be caught too!

    one word for you, you dolt. yarrrr.

  47. Reader's Write Says:

    To me Says: you will be receiving special attention from the RIAA for that remark. Enjoy.

  48. Reader's Write Says:

    A little post I found on the internet, the names of some of them.

    Excellent. This is what it’s going to take.

    Short of putting bullets through the heads of Mitch Bainwol, Roger Ames, Victoria Bassetti,Jason Flom, Bill Hearn, Charles Goldstuck, Deidre McDonald, Joe Galante, Tim Bowen, Rob Stringer, Jeff Harleston, Steve Bartels, Lawrence Kenswil, Mel Lewinter, Zach Horowitz, Craig Kallman, Tom Whalley, Michael Fleischer, Kevin Liles, Bob Cavallo, Glen Barros, Mike Curb, Tom Silverman, Jose Behar and Alan Meltzer, that is.

    Much more peaceful solution, if she wins.

  49. bdjnk Says:

    I have music files, I listen to them, and I share them with anyone who wants, against the will of the people who think they can own and control intangible objects and the right to experience them. The absurd and detestable actions of the RIAA and similar entities are just more signs of a recent trend in America. Capitalism leading to fascism. How lovely.

    Disclaimer: None of the statement written above are factual in any way. I do not admit to any crimes, nor do I support criminal activity in any form.

    Copyright: None of my statements may be copied or transmitted in any manner and any ideas or concepts expressed therein are my intellectual property. By posting here, I am allowing that any visitor to this web-page may view this post without fear of legal action. Otherwise, all rights are reserved.

  50. Kinematic Says:

    I want some special attention from the RIAA too, too bad you for you I live in the Netherlands ;-)

  51. Reader's Write Says:

    Oh Kinematic, some *very* special attention can be arranged just for you… It’s really best not to mess with the mighty RIAA, ya know?

  52. Reader's Write Says:

    Don’t forget, you little p2p user, we have your IP address and your government in our pocket, so things can… happen.

  53. Kinematic Says:

    Ok, I’ll bite :-)
    Some time ago the RIAA wanted to sue a file sharer from the Netherlands but the Dutch courts told the RIAA to EAT DIRT because the RIAA used illegal and unethical tactics to gather information on said person. Is the Dutch court telling the RIAA to EAT DIRT what you mean by owning my government?

  54. Zcold Says:

    Thanks Dreddsnik, you fed a curious troll with great info.

  55. me Says:

    yes please give me special attention!!! the place where i am posting from is a very private place, and not-at-all my workplace for the government, where we have totally anonymous internet access. i swear. in fact as i sit here, not at work, im downloading st. anger over and over. tell lars hi for me. im sure its very easy to get my uber-private IP address from this wordpress blog anyway.

  56. me Says:

    yarrr. that is all.

  57. Dreddsnik Says:

    “Thanks Dreddsnik, you fed a curious troll with great info.”

    You’re welcome.
    The most important info ? ……

    IP addresses and user information are not now, or ever will be collected at this site :)

    Ever.

    This same troll has tried very hard, since Sharman sued P2Pnet, to imply that IP addy’s
    are kept, because, sharman ( Nikki ) believes Jon can tell her who a poster was,
    which is the main reason for the suit.
    They tried to sue an identity out of P2Pnet.

    Since there is no way to get that, since no IP addys or identities are logged here .. ever ..
    they can never get that identity.

    The troll is simply attempting to get some sort of ‘confession’ of something that is not , nor ever
    will be true.

  58. The Bearmgr Says:

    RAII cometh to my door and walketh no more. “Law of the Beretta.”
    I personally have all the music I want but I know of many who have downloaded for years and lots who have gotten a massive amount of Virus Activity on their computers from places like Kazaa. BEARSHARE was the Best of the Best, along side of Napster. It’s too bad commercialism has gone so far that innocent folks are gone after by GIANT Corporations that can terrorize them into paying for things they didn’t even do. It’s like the old “Southern Cop” thing where they take the guy out and hang him because they thought he looked funny at the young White Girl next door. This is an example and NOT a racial thing. It’s about POWER and GREED. The REAL loosers here are the Musicians. They make the albums and the Corporations make the money, giving them squat for their work. Why not put out a site by the ARTISTS that can give away or sell their music at a lower level and make more money than the Industry Giants will ever pay them? It’s a thought! Janis, Jimi, Jim, Jerry…I’m sorry you had to go before this crap started. Maybe it wouldn’t be here if you still were.

  59. Reader's Write Says:

    After reading an article regarding this copyright infringement, it became clear that the Record industry motives may not be what they seem. RIAA confuscated some 1.6 million user names during their search. RIAA claimed that individual damages for copy right infringement are in the area of $3,000 per user. Well, we can all due the Math, RIAA if sucessful stands to make Billions. They are exploiting all those caught in their net. Think about it, you can buy a song for .99 cents, but RIAA seeks billions from the listeners. The Internet is still fairly new technology and at the time these user I’m sure did not fully understand the the Internet. Something to Think about

  60. judy Says:

    I just want my $3000 back.

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