Want to help build a space engine?
p2pnet news | Off Topic:- “Do not go where the path may lead,” wrote Ralph Waldo Emerson. “Go instead where there is no path, and leave a trail.”
And that’s exactly what inventor Michael Thomas (right) plans on doing with his world’s first Linear Particle Accelerator (LINAC) atom smasher, in the process taking space propulsion in a direction never thought of before.
“Man had better start looking to space exploration, planetary colonization, and space mining if he wants to survive,” he tells p2pnet.
“Present day rocket propulsion technology can’t meet any of these demands and therefore the future of mankind is already dead – unless we can find the courage to seriously explore Interplanetary and Interstellar travel.”
If you’re thinking Thomas’ name is familiar, you’re probably a regular p2pnet reader because he’s the man who created the holographic DVR disc drive and optical spintronics data storage systems, among others.
He also worked with ex-Navy seal captain Bob Adams and Jed Margolin, one of Atari`s original hardware engineers, on the Medusa, the 21st century weapon system which sends high energy electrons at light speed down a special barrel.
Deployed around airports or other strategic locations in 2001, it could have been aimed at the terror aircraft, disrupting or destroying their electronic systems, say Thomas and his co-developers.
Now Thomas says he’s created a propulsion engine based on common-day physics, and he’s inviting anyone with the skills and interest to become involved with him in bringing his latest brainchild to fruition.
Click here for the design concept.
Click here for the theory and concepts.
If you’re interested in working with him on this, please contact him here ——> nlspropulsion @ pacbell dot net
And while you’re thinking about it:
- Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic ~ Dr. Arthur C. Clark
- It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity ~ Albert Einstein
- Imagination is more important than knowledge ~ Albert Einstein
- Today’s science fiction is often tomorrow’s science fact ~ Albert Einstein
- Long experience has taught me this about the status of mankind with regard to matters requiring thought: the less people know and understand about them, the more positively they attempt to argue concerning them, while on the other hand to know and understand a multitude of things renders men cautious in passing judgment upon anything new ~ Galileo
And then ……………
- The choice is the universe or nothing ~ H.G. Wells
- A future spacecraft, using technologies that we haven’t even dreamed of, may use an engine that could sustain a constant acceleration of 1 g until the ship reaches relativistic speeds. With such an engine, a trip even to Andromeda may be possible within a human lifetime. “Einstein For Dummies” ~ Dr Carlos I. Calle, PhD, NASA senior research scientist.
Here’s what Thomas has to say about his project >>>>>
Near Light Speed Space Ship is Man’s Future
Present day Oberth technology, used by many can be classified as an antiquated propulsion technology which hits ~ 25,000 miles/hr max (.00378 % of c, c=186,000 miles/sec) and has a very limited travel distance.
Space travelers using Oberth technology would see the time needed to travel to Alpha Centauri our closest neighboring star in a journey which would take take hundreds, if not thousands, of years.
Even if my propulsion hits 10 % of light speed that is ~ 67,061,662 miles/hr, there’s still plenty of room to learn and grow towards 99.9 % the speed of light (c=670,616,629.384 mile per hour).
This would mean travel to Mars would be feasible within weeks, not years, and travel to Alpha Centauri could be achieved within five to 10 years.
My Linear Accelerator Propulsion (LINAC) system uses invariant mass electron / microwave beam as propellant. An inexhaustable supply of electrons in space makes the technology capable of continuous 24 x 7 non-stop propulsion operation constantly accelerating at 1 g where NLS would then be possible.
Dr Steve Schaefer, PhD Princeton University (Physics), “Calculates if X = 4.3 light-years, then T = 3.6 years.
Dozens of stars could be reached in five to six years and it would even be possible for a a traveler to reach the incredibly distant Andromeda galaxy (2,000,000 light years away) in less than 29 years (Ship Time in Years) if a constant acceleration could be maintained.” (Also see Dr. Carlos I. Calle, PhD, NASA senior research scientist, below.)
Dr Schaefer calculates, “If the total distance is X, then the total travel time T is given by expression
X / 2 = (c2 / g) [cosh (0.5 g T / c) 1] T = (2 c / g) cosh1 (1 + 0.5 g X / c2) ”
The possibility for space colonization, space mining, and space travel would be limitless.
Forget about the low earth orbit joy trips now being offered by space tourism companies. Mankind would find itself doing what it does best —— exploring new frontiers with new Columbus and Lewis & Clarks types blazing trails and discovering new worlds.
To help with mining asteroids and to protect the space craft, we’ll be using our patented Medusa particle beam system.
You may think such disruptive technology must be out of this world. But nothing could be further from the truth.
The cost per pound for current Chemical Rocket technology is $ 2,000 to $ 10,000 dollars per launch. This generally runs into hundreds of millions of dollars per launch as verified by the industry. The launch cost per pound for components of the NLS Spaceship to Low Earth Orbit would have the same current or lower cost.
The NLS components launched to LEO would used to build the spaceship.
The NLS propulsion technology has been peer reviewed by several physicists as being valid technology following Newton’s and Einstein’s laws using invariant mass propulsion.
Present Day Solid Rocket Exhaust is 1,000 to 4,000 m/s with 10^3 to 10^7 N thrust and a firing duration of minutes.
The Proposed NLS Propulsion is 300,000,000 m/s with 10^3 to 10^6 N thrust and a firing duration of years – decades.
The estimated cost for a present-day space shuttle is hundreds of billions of dollars, with $ 500 million per launch and $ 50 million per month to maintain the shuttle program ending around 2012.
But the estimated cost for NLS Space Ship is hundreds of millions of dollars, with $ 200 million per launch and $ 2 million per month, and with no program termination.
Cost per lb. for current Chemical Rocket technology is 2,000 to 10,000 lbs. per each launch required and usage having possible recovery of rockets components. Cost per lb. for Near Light speed technology will only be the cost of running the space craft at several thousand dollars per month once launched into LEO.The NLS components are not reusable and will stay in space for the entire life of the space craft.
A future spacecraft, using technologies that we haven’t even dreamed of, may use an engine that could sustain a constant acceleration of 1 g until the ship reaches relativistic speeds.
With such an engine, a trip even to Andromeda may be possible within a human lifetime. “Einstein For Dummies”, By Dr. Carlos I. Calle, PhD, NASA senior research scientist Pub. Date: June 2005, ISBN: 978-0-7645-8348-3, Pages: 384 Pages.
The table below shows several possible trips on a ship constantly accelerating at 1 g.
The figure for “Distance in Light-Years” is also the time that would pass on Earth while the ship traveled to its destination.
I’m looking foreward to hearing from you and if you need any further information, please don’t hesitate to get in touch.
Michael Thomas
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August 28th, 2007 at 6:29 pm
Current science still doesn’t allow objects moving faster than light so the table about trip times with constant 1g acceleration has no sense. Even reaching the speed of light would require so much energy that it’s not an option. The 1st pdf does mention that to keep acceleration at 1g you need to constantly raise the energy output, the 22MW nuclear reactor having a limited production there’s a maximum speed at which no more acceleration will be possible, and i doubt that speed would be 1/10 the speed of light as suggested.
As much as i would like this new propulsion system to be as advertised, i can’t help noticing the whole presentation of the project reminds me too much of similar scams.
August 28th, 2007 at 7:15 pm
You might want to use a word other than ‘scam’. I don’t think this man is trying to trick anyone.
August 29th, 2007 at 4:25 am
“Space travelers using Oberth technology would see the time needed to travel to Alpha Centauri our closest neighboring galaxy in a journey which would take take hundreds, if not thousands, of years.”
Alpha Centauri is the second closest *star*, not galaxy (the closest being Proxima Centauri).
August 29th, 2007 at 4:30 am
Well when you speak about 5 to 10 years to reach Proxima Centauri which is about 4 light years away, while expecting to reach a maximum velocity of c/10 there’s something wrong… even if that speed was reached instantly at launch it would still take 40 years to complete the journey.
The article also induces the idea of constant 1g acceleration as a means to simulate earth’s gravity during the whole trip, which is deceptive to say the least as reaching c/10 would only take a few months ( if possible reaching c would take less than a year…) and once that speed limit attained there would be no more acceleration thus no more artificial gravity during the rest of the trip.
There’s no mention of any deceleration procedure before reaching your target, which would add some more travel time, not to mention a design problem as the vessel would have to turn around and thus have no more shield or medusa guns to protect it during deceleration.
So yes to me it smells like scam when the science facts aren’t straight and big $$ are involved.
I sincerely hope i’ll be proven wrong, that instead of a scam it was just PR overhyping, and would even love to work on such an achievement which would already be incredibly useful if only limited to our solar system.
August 29th, 2007 at 8:10 am
ShakaZ, I didn’t read about instant 10c reached. 25 MW available every second over time doesn’t mean 25 MW will be used as much in the beginning as near 10c, you give no energy requirements. With the data presented I think it would be just an easy matter of using calculus to figure the energy requirements throughout.
Deceleration at the half way point is presented in the pdf and website link, please read. Is it wrong to try and present a new direction of thought, maybe it will work and maybe it will not. But maybe it will help others to break out of the box and start thinking in a new direction also.
Mankind has everything to loose if we don’t start now.
I haven’t read any data or scientific proof, only opinions, stating otherwise. The author has presented data and atleast some scientific proof for his thinking in this direction.
I don’t see any reason to use such words as,, scam,, if you are an intelligent being using this insulting approach definitely effects your credibility with me.
Zorg, the correction has been make on the website by the author.
This is a subject that needs to be debated and just like politics their will always be democrats, republicans, and independent thinkers, that is the beauty of free thought.
As the author states, “Do not go where the path may lead,” wrote Ralph Waldo Emerson. “Go instead where there is no path, and leave a trail.”
I believe he just did that by bringing this new idea to our attention.
August 29th, 2007 at 9:38 am
Holoman, i couldn’t care less what you think about my credibility. All i did was state my opinion, describing a few things that were not scientifically sound and lead me to think this is probably a scam. There’s nothing insulting in voicing my doubts i believe.
Indeed i didn’t bother to make the “easy” calculations about energy requirements at c/10 (not 10c as that’s impossible according to current knowledge), feel free to do so and prove me wrong.
About deceleration i didn’t see anything in either the pdf nor the website, i’ll check it out once again when i have the time to see if the points i raised on that matter are in fact accounted for. By the way deceleration shouldn’t be at halfway point except on short travels for which maximum speed wouldn’t be reached…
On the contrary of what you may think this is hardly a new direction or a path noone has bothered going as there are tens if not hundreds of projects like this one that exist already. Some having been imagined by very respectable scientists.
So yes this new nuclear-powered engine may be original and perhaps better than other solutions imagined so far, i certainly hope so, time will tell.
But to me it still smells of scam, the way it’s being presented, giving hopes that exceed current physics laws. I guess there’s a credibility issue that arises naturally from such a poor presentation.
There are however some scientist that have already imagined ways in which faster than light speed travel or even time travel might be possible but we’re still far from poving those theories are right, let alone trying to implement them.
August 29th, 2007 at 11:27 am
ShabaZ,
When you state your position you should offer facts to back them up. I still see none and you still seem
to enjoy angry illogical banter. I will leave it at that.
Good day to you sir,
holoman
August 29th, 2007 at 2:40 pm
Well i did in fact provide several facts which cannot be said of your contribution to this discussion.
I’ve taken the time to check the pdf again and i still don’t see anything about deceleration as you stated, the powerpoint file also doesn’t talk about it.
August 29th, 2007 at 6:10 pm
A check of Navy SEAL’s does not list a Capt Bob Adams. Please check yoyr source.
August 29th, 2007 at 6:13 pm
PS, I am a Plank Owner of SEAL Team 2
August 30th, 2007 at 11:41 am
A plank owner, very nice considering that you retired in 1977 after only 14 years in the Navy on the team according to one of your other posts I read Mr. Wallace. http://navyseals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=139059
Judging by what I know of most sy-ops and team members, most never use their full names and I am sure this person did not as well as I am sure being an officer he is quite smart. It would seem the Officer who has earned the respect did his 23 years as I have read and served it proudly long after the 14 years you spent in the Navy Mr. Wallace. And, I am quiet sure that you being retired nor any enlisted personal would have access to such highly classified Navel personal records, let alone publicly say they have access to such records.
Bottom line is, my hats off to all that have served our great Country!
August 30th, 2007 at 4:23 pm
ShakaZ & Holoman, thanks for your posting and comments. I like what you wrote and would like to know more about the concept and your backgrounds, please contact me at info@optimatechnologygroup.com
September 13th, 2007 at 10:28 pm
Get a life. Stop lying and take a few courses in basic physics.
Man will never, ever, reach the nearest star.
September 14th, 2007 at 8:17 am
Reader’s Write Says:
Your absolutely right. Where is you proof ?
Should we consider your comments as proof ?
Do you have solution ?
Should we stop looking for a solution ?
Should mankind just die out because its impossible ?
October 28th, 2007 at 10:39 am
IF it is true that Berkley has successfully forced light past the speed of light constant then star travel is possible. May I point out, that even if we just stay in this planetary system we can expand and grow for tens of generations. The Moon alone vastly expands our possible resources and living space.
April 8th, 2008 at 7:12 pm
I’m with you .space travel is here and now
May 1st, 2008 at 5:09 pm
“The Proposed NLS Propulsion is 300,000,000 m/s with 10^3 to 10^6 N thrust and a firing duration of years – decades”
Which calculations suggest such amount of thrust? It would require a lot of speedy electrons to make the shuttle with some payload accelerate at 1g. And the grid with amount of time is funny. A kind of useless trip – 28 years in ship time, and 2 million years passing on earth. New species of dinosaurs will appear in the meantime.
August 20th, 2008 at 8:23 am
The propulsion engine collector screen will supply high quality interstellar energetic electrons as a source of renewable thermionic electrons to the klystron cathode and supplemental power to the NLS engine.
Increasing the amount and energy level of the electrons supplied to the klystrons by free space electrons will increase the maximum thermionic current density and increase the total current supplied by the klystron allowing the klystron to produce significantly higher energy well beyond the original invention design gain specifications.
Renewable electron mass has many advantages in NLS space propulsion. These are other physical effects that will also improve the energy to mass ratio but it is beyond the scope of this news piece.
“Science fiction usually becomes science fact”, Dr. Stephen Hawking.
June 23rd, 2009 at 6:25 pm
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