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		<title>By: Fresh stuff</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13172/comment-page-1#comment-171911</link>
		<dc:creator>Fresh stuff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 14:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG i am like actually entertained by idiots and ignorant people using their energy to assume and guess, without knowing nothing more then they read from web pages. Idiots how about just calling 505 248 0000 and ask all you want. After all Nexicon is not a secret agency but a public company. The smartest things you all can do is buy stocks in Nexicon (NXCN) as this looks promising from a business standpoint</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG i am like actually entertained by idiots and ignorant people using their energy to assume and guess, without knowing nothing more then they read from web pages. Idiots how about just calling 505 248 0000 and ask all you want. After all Nexicon is not a secret agency but a public company. The smartest things you all can do is buy stocks in Nexicon (NXCN) as this looks promising from a business standpoint</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13172/comment-page-1#comment-170222</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 11:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice detective work Fred on looking at the financials.

the siia was a clients...but i am pretty sure they are no longer.  it looks like nexicon has not updated their website for sometime,

has anyone called the siia to verify?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice detective work Fred on looking at the financials.</p>
<p>the siia was a clients&#8230;but i am pretty sure they are no longer.  it looks like nexicon has not updated their website for sometime,</p>
<p>has anyone called the siia to verify?</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Wilhelms</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13172/comment-page-1#comment-170112</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred Wilhelms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 03:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ten years ago, Nexicon was known as Cyco, and, according to SEC filings, was primarily involved with selling cigarettes.  They subsequently acquired two network security firms, Orion and Pluto.  Their current client list includes the SIIA (Software Information Industry Association), and I suspect their amnesty program is being conducted for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ten years ago, Nexicon was known as Cyco, and, according to SEC filings, was primarily involved with selling cigarettes.  They subsequently acquired two network security firms, Orion and Pluto.  Their current client list includes the SIIA (Software Information Industry Association), and I suspect their amnesty program is being conducted for them.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13172/comment-page-1#comment-169879</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 11:17:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wiki on simms building

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simms_Building

theres a photo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wiki on simms building</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simms_Building" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simms_Building</a></p>
<p>theres a photo</p>
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		<title>By: Quartz</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13172/comment-page-1#comment-169866</link>
		<dc:creator>Quartz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 10:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.nexiconinc.com/press.php

This google hit seems to reference the same phone number and address as well as being mentioned by the poster above who seems to know what he is talking about.

Reading through the blurb it seem this is the correct organisation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.nexiconinc.com/press.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.nexiconinc.com/press.php</a></p>
<p>This google hit seems to reference the same phone number and address as well as being mentioned by the poster above who seems to know what he is talking about.</p>
<p>Reading through the blurb it seem this is the correct organisation.</p>
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		<title>By: Genius Christ</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13172/comment-page-1#comment-169780</link>
		<dc:creator>Genius Christ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 03:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looking at the photo posted again...that is the New Mexico Bank &amp; Trust Building at 300 Gold SW...still plenty o&#039; lawyers and no hot chicks.  There is one exception to the statement I made in the earlier post about the &quot;talent&quot; South of Cental is The Library Bar &amp; Grill http://www.thelibraryusa.com (this url is for the one in Tempe, AZ but we have one right here in Burque on the South side of Central...but still you get the idea.

GC</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking at the photo posted again&#8230;that is the New Mexico Bank &amp; Trust Building at 300 Gold SW&#8230;still plenty o&#8217; lawyers and no hot chicks.  There is one exception to the statement I made in the earlier post about the &#8220;talent&#8221; South of Cental is The Library Bar &amp; Grill <a href="http://www.thelibraryusa.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.thelibraryusa.com</a> (this url is for the one in Tempe, AZ but we have one right here in Burque on the South side of Central&#8230;but still you get the idea.</p>
<p>GC</p>
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		<title>By: Genius Christ</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13172/comment-page-1#comment-169776</link>
		<dc:creator>Genius Christ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 03:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come on Burque Bro, get your NW &amp; SW Straight in Downtown....

A. 400 Gold is the SIMMS Building, the oldest highrise in ABQ and home to more than few lawyers.
B. The BofA Building is on the block between 2nd &amp; 3rd at Roma and home to Citadel Broadcasting, apparently some other lawyers, and some fine babes (Everyone knows that all the hot chicks in Downoton Burque work North of Central)

http://tinyurl.com/38hden  (Yahoo Map...Google was incorrect as is often the case in Burque)

In New Nexico antything spelled with &quot;que&quot; is pronounced kee

GC
Live from Burquewood</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on Burque Bro, get your NW &amp; SW Straight in Downtown&#8230;.</p>
<p>A. 400 Gold is the SIMMS Building, the oldest highrise in ABQ and home to more than few lawyers.<br />
B. The BofA Building is on the block between 2nd &amp; 3rd at Roma and home to Citadel Broadcasting, apparently some other lawyers, and some fine babes (Everyone knows that all the hot chicks in Downoton Burque work North of Central)</p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/38hden" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/38hden</a>  (Yahoo Map&#8230;Google was incorrect as is often the case in Burque)</p>
<p>In New Nexico antything spelled with &#8220;que&#8221; is pronounced kee</p>
<p>GC<br />
Live from Burquewood</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13172/comment-page-1#comment-169707</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 23:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is the Bank of America building in &quot;downtown&quot; ABQ.  The Suite is the home of Alexander Word &amp; assoc.,  a lawyer ...of course.  I used to have a office in the same building and met many of the fine folks that work there, douchebags to the core.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is the Bank of America building in &#8220;downtown&#8221; ABQ.  The Suite is the home of Alexander Word &amp; assoc.,  a lawyer &#8230;of course.  I used to have a office in the same building and met many of the fine folks that work there, douchebags to the core.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Nice Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13172/comment-page-1#comment-169672</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Nice Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 21:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I said some pretty acrid things about Ernesto over at Torrentfreak, http://torrentfreak.com/getamnestycom-mpaa-extortion-at-its-finest, which was a reflection of my contempt for Internet rumormongering.  However, after taking the high road, I believe Ernesto, let his integrity come though and made additional efforts to verify his story.  So, I want to apoloize for the tone and comments I made at his expense.

Best!

MNG (Formerly DYH)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I said some pretty acrid things about Ernesto over at Torrentfreak, <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/getamnestycom-mpaa-extortion-at-its-finest" rel="nofollow">http://torrentfreak.com/getamnestycom-mpaa-extortion-at-its-finest</a>, which was a reflection of my contempt for Internet rumormongering.  However, after taking the high road, I believe Ernesto, let his integrity come though and made additional efforts to verify his story.  So, I want to apoloize for the tone and comments I made at his expense.</p>
<p>Best!</p>
<p>MNG (Formerly DYH)</p>
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		<title>By: Do_Your_Homework!</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13172/comment-page-1#comment-169646</link>
		<dc:creator>Do_Your_Homework!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 20:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I similarly posted on Torrentfreak:

I strongly urge you to do your homework before you join in any specious (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/specious)speculation.  Getamnesty.com really is NOT  in any way commissioned or sanctioned by the MPAA, their members or affiliates as claimed by Ernesto at Torrentfreak (http://torrentfreak.com/getamnestycom-mpaa-extortion-at-its-finest), who seems loathe to take my challenge.  First course of business of any credible journalistic effort is investigation and verification of at least 2 sources (http://www.facsnet.org/tools/sci_tech/methods.php3).  Did anyone call the MPAA at their opulently appointed office in Encino?…its so easy with theses 10 steps:

#1 	Dial +1 (818) 995-6600
#2 	One Ringy-dingy…Two Ringy-dingy…
#3 	The Receptionist will answer: “Motion Picture Association”
#4	You say: “Can I talk to somebody in charge of anti-piracy for the Internet?
#5	The Receptionist will reply:  “Just a moment while I connect you”
#6  	One Ringy-dingy…Two Ringy-dingy…
#7 	The Evil Intractable Nightmare Inducing Bogeyman will answer: “MPAA Internet anti-piracy…how can we ruin your life?’ (Not really, you’ll actually get a real human being that will likely say: “This is [First Name]”)
#8	You say: Is get amnesty.com in any way commissioned or sanctioned by the MPAA?
#9	MPAA Dude tells you: “No”, “Never heard of it” or something succinctly disclaiming any association.
#10	But not taking “No” for an answer, you retort: “But what about Nexicon’s claims…”

and please  report your answer right back here.  

Of course you could read the original press release: http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/070814/latu056.html?.v=101 and see that there no specific endorsement.  Press releases are marketing folks, not gospel. When they claim that “Nexicon developed the GetAmnesty(TM) Program at the suggestion of a major copyright owner trade association”…that translates to they ain’t got s#!t.  

A &#039;suggestion&#039; is not a contract nor an endorsement.  What makes Ernesto’s claim so specious is that the RIAA does conduct a similar operation via https://www.p2plawsuits.com; which is pretty clear that the ‘evidence’ collected is coming from the Internet Anti-piracy firm MediaSentry.  Even BayTSP has a similar offering (http://www.darkmirage.com/2007/08/28/baytsp-to-the-rescue/)


Then this MUST be a ‘phishing’ scam!

STEEEEERIKE 2!!!!!

Oh what’s that at the end of the press release?  Could it be?  Oh yes, it is a ‘forward-looking statement’ disclaimer required by the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC).  Nexicon is public company, but that is what the stock symbol tells you at the beginning of the press release.  Hmm ‘Pink Sheets’…Alas, an investment worthy of the trust of widows and orphans (Call your broker for his/her sage advise).  Nevertheless, these guys would be looking at spending a few years in the Crowbar Hilton, by willfully committing such fraud in the course of their fiduciary responsibilities.  Hell. just call investor relations,  The contact is at the bottom.

My point is don’t believe everything you read unless, you at least try to verify it with the parties involved the party’s involved, or at least know that the writer did…unlike Pobre Ernesto.

Do you think any further post to the contrary will have any credibility, unless you call?  Come on, reach out and touch a ‘cartel’ today.

Cordially,

DYH</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I similarly posted on Torrentfreak:</p>
<p>I strongly urge you to do your homework before you join in any specious (<a href="http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/specious)speculation" rel="nofollow">http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/specious)speculation</a>.  Getamnesty.com really is NOT  in any way commissioned or sanctioned by the MPAA, their members or affiliates as claimed by Ernesto at Torrentfreak (<a href="http://torrentfreak.com/getamnestycom-mpaa-extortion-at-its-finest)" rel="nofollow">http://torrentfreak.com/getamnestycom-mpaa-extortion-at-its-finest)</a>, who seems loathe to take my challenge.  First course of business of any credible journalistic effort is investigation and verification of at least 2 sources (<a href="http://www.facsnet.org/tools/sci_tech/methods.php3)" rel="nofollow">http://www.facsnet.org/tools/sci_tech/methods.php3)</a>.  Did anyone call the MPAA at their opulently appointed office in Encino?…its so easy with theses 10 steps:</p>
<p>#1 	Dial +1 (818) 995-6600<br />
#2 	One Ringy-dingy…Two Ringy-dingy…<br />
#3 	The Receptionist will answer: “Motion Picture Association”<br />
#4	You say: “Can I talk to somebody in charge of anti-piracy for the Internet?<br />
#5	The Receptionist will reply:  “Just a moment while I connect you”<br />
#6  	One Ringy-dingy…Two Ringy-dingy…<br />
#7 	The Evil Intractable Nightmare Inducing Bogeyman will answer: “MPAA Internet anti-piracy…how can we ruin your life?’ (Not really, you’ll actually get a real human being that will likely say: “This is [First Name]”)<br />
#8	You say: Is get amnesty.com in any way commissioned or sanctioned by the MPAA?<br />
#9	MPAA Dude tells you: “No”, “Never heard of it” or something succinctly disclaiming any association.<br />
#10	But not taking “No” for an answer, you retort: “But what about Nexicon’s claims…”</p>
<p>and please  report your answer right back here.  </p>
<p>Of course you could read the original press release: <a href="http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/070814/latu056.html?.v=101" rel="nofollow">http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/070814/latu056.html?.v=101</a> and see that there no specific endorsement.  Press releases are marketing folks, not gospel. When they claim that “Nexicon developed the GetAmnesty(TM) Program at the suggestion of a major copyright owner trade association”…that translates to they ain’t got s#!t.  </p>
<p>A &#8217;suggestion&#8217; is not a contract nor an endorsement.  What makes Ernesto’s claim so specious is that the RIAA does conduct a similar operation via <a href="https://www.p2plawsuits.com" rel="nofollow">https://www.p2plawsuits.com</a>; which is pretty clear that the ‘evidence’ collected is coming from the Internet Anti-piracy firm MediaSentry.  Even BayTSP has a similar offering (<a href="http://www.darkmirage.com/2007/08/28/baytsp-to-the-rescue/" rel="nofollow">http://www.darkmirage.com/2007/08/28/baytsp-to-the-rescue/</a>)</p>
<p>Then this MUST be a ‘phishing’ scam!</p>
<p>STEEEEERIKE 2!!!!!</p>
<p>Oh what’s that at the end of the press release?  Could it be?  Oh yes, it is a ‘forward-looking statement’ disclaimer required by the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC).  Nexicon is public company, but that is what the stock symbol tells you at the beginning of the press release.  Hmm ‘Pink Sheets’…Alas, an investment worthy of the trust of widows and orphans (Call your broker for his/her sage advise).  Nevertheless, these guys would be looking at spending a few years in the Crowbar Hilton, by willfully committing such fraud in the course of their fiduciary responsibilities.  Hell. just call investor relations,  The contact is at the bottom.</p>
<p>My point is don’t believe everything you read unless, you at least try to verify it with the parties involved the party’s involved, or at least know that the writer did…unlike Pobre Ernesto.</p>
<p>Do you think any further post to the contrary will have any credibility, unless you call?  Come on, reach out and touch a ‘cartel’ today.</p>
<p>Cordially,</p>
<p>DYH</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13172/comment-page-1#comment-169630</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 19:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This sounds like a phishing scam.  

Hell if I&#039;d give a red cent to anyone who electronically sends me bullshit like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This sounds like a phishing scam.  </p>
<p>Hell if I&#8217;d give a red cent to anyone who electronically sends me bullshit like that.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13172/comment-page-1#comment-169623</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 18:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good! We have a target now!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good! We have a target now!</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13172/comment-page-1#comment-169612</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 18:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should set it so that anyone coming to your site from getamnesty.com go to this page (or any other page telling people why they shouldn&#039;t pay.  Also, this is a site for Nexicon (http://torrentfreak.com/getamnestycom-mpaa-extortion-at-its-finest/)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should set it so that anyone coming to your site from getamnesty.com go to this page (or any other page telling people why they shouldn&#8217;t pay.  Also, this is a site for Nexicon (<a href="http://torrentfreak.com/getamnestycom-mpaa-extortion-at-its-finest/)" rel="nofollow">http://torrentfreak.com/getamnestycom-mpaa-extortion-at-its-finest/)</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mark Francis</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13172/comment-page-1#comment-169600</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Francis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 17:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s intimidation, pure and simple. They could, and probably do, mass mail the threat, and make a few bucks in the process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s intimidation, pure and simple. They could, and probably do, mass mail the threat, and make a few bucks in the process.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13172/comment-page-1#comment-169597</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 16:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It could be said that the entertainment companies are only doing what they have to do to protect their copyrights. 

Tom Giovanetti at the Institute for Policy Innovation said Newton has a tendency towards &#039;knee-jerk&#039; reactions. Could this be another example?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It could be said that the entertainment companies are only doing what they have to do to protect their copyrights. </p>
<p>Tom Giovanetti at the Institute for Policy Innovation said Newton has a tendency towards &#8216;knee-jerk&#8217; reactions. Could this be another example?</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13172/comment-page-1#comment-169581</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 16:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These douchebags get more pathetic by the day.  Who do they think they&#039;re fooling?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These douchebags get more pathetic by the day.  Who do they think they&#8217;re fooling?</p>
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