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	<title>Comments on: MediaDefender boss Randy Saaf arrested</title>
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		<title>By: Bill Putz</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13397/comment-page-1#comment-344553</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Putz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 03:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey guys, keep your chins up. All the better to impart a good upper cut.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey guys, keep your chins up. All the better to impart a good upper cut.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Putz</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13397/comment-page-1#comment-344548</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Putz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 03:42:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These guys are lowlife scum preying on their fellow humans and on a par with RIAA, terrorists, corrupt police, corrupt polys, lawyers, priests, parking inspectors, speed camera operators, real estate agents, used car salesmen, removalists, and collection agencies. Sorry if I&#039;ve missed anyone out. Druggies?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These guys are lowlife scum preying on their fellow humans and on a par with RIAA, terrorists, corrupt police, corrupt polys, lawyers, priests, parking inspectors, speed camera operators, real estate agents, used car salesmen, removalists, and collection agencies. Sorry if I&#8217;ve missed anyone out. Druggies?</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13397/comment-page-1#comment-181645</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 00:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This wasn&#039;t to generate traffic, although certainly, it all helps. The idea was to use farce to focus attention on a farce.

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This wasn&#8217;t to generate traffic, although certainly, it all helps. The idea was to use farce to focus attention on a farce.</p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13397/comment-page-1#comment-181209</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 05:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t bothered going to the news.p2p.net site (which is not at all run by p2pnet.net), but it should be mentioned for those that didn&#039;t already know, it&#039;s an MD site:
http://samspade.org/whois/news.p2p.net

I typically enjoy Jon&#039;s diverse interests and off-topic posts (and of course, his on-topic p2p articles),  but this extremely lame attempt at satire fails completely in my book (I&#039;m sure there are better ways to generate traffic here without offending your true supporters).  

I thought this site was good at reporting real events that the lamestream sites don&#039;t, but this one made me lose all respect.  This article was not nearly absurd enough to be flagged as satire and though it&#039;s not in the same boat as spoofing files on p2p networks, it&#039;s indeed a spoof that isn&#039;t warranted (or appreciated by me and likely others) here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t bothered going to the news.p2p.net site (which is not at all run by p2pnet.net), but it should be mentioned for those that didn&#8217;t already know, it&#8217;s an MD site:<br />
<a href="http://samspade.org/whois/news.p2p.net" rel="nofollow">http://samspade.org/whois/news.p2p.net</a></p>
<p>I typically enjoy Jon&#8217;s diverse interests and off-topic posts (and of course, his on-topic p2p articles),  but this extremely lame attempt at satire fails completely in my book (I&#8217;m sure there are better ways to generate traffic here without offending your true supporters).  </p>
<p>I thought this site was good at reporting real events that the lamestream sites don&#8217;t, but this one made me lose all respect.  This article was not nearly absurd enough to be flagged as satire and though it&#8217;s not in the same boat as spoofing files on p2p networks, it&#8217;s indeed a spoof that isn&#8217;t warranted (or appreciated by me and likely others) here.</p>
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		<title>By: Quartz</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13397/comment-page-1#comment-180532</link>
		<dc:creator>Quartz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 23:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its my firm beleif the US government must take action against these cyber-terrorists, thier scattergun methods of interdiction are wholly inadequate and unfit for purpose, perhaps if financial restitution was made for all the stolen bandwidth and criminal sanctions imposed for the launching of ddos attacks mediadefender has generated then folks may rest easy that the govenrmen was doing its job in protecting the populace, currently it is not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its my firm beleif the US government must take action against these cyber-terrorists, thier scattergun methods of interdiction are wholly inadequate and unfit for purpose, perhaps if financial restitution was made for all the stolen bandwidth and criminal sanctions imposed for the launching of ddos attacks mediadefender has generated then folks may rest easy that the govenrmen was doing its job in protecting the populace, currently it is not.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13397/comment-page-1#comment-180400</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 18:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They don&#039;t just spoof. They deploy malwares and break into computers. Also they frame people to propel their business.
All of this is illegal. The governement is not doing it&#039;s job and I am afraid soemone has to do it for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They don&#8217;t just spoof. They deploy malwares and break into computers. Also they frame people to propel their business.<br />
All of this is illegal. The governement is not doing it&#8217;s job and I am afraid soemone has to do it for them.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13397/comment-page-1#comment-180334</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 14:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>me - they havent been arrested. this is a p2pnet spoof - satire - post. read some of the posts before yours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>me &#8211; they havent been arrested. this is a p2pnet spoof &#8211; satire &#8211; post. read some of the posts before yours.</p>
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		<title>By: ruNGO</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13397/comment-page-1#comment-180316</link>
		<dc:creator>ruNGO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 13:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://thepiratebay.org/blog/86 pirates rule </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://thepiratebay.org/blog/86" rel="nofollow">http://thepiratebay.org/blog/86</a> pirates rule</p>
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		<title>By: me</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13397/comment-page-1#comment-180259</link>
		<dc:creator>me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 10:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>off MDs site:
 	“[Spoofing is] an appropriate response to the problem of peer-to-peer piracy,&quot; and &quot;a self-help measure that is completely lawful ... I think it would be crazy if record labels, or motion picture studios or any other owners of content didn&#039;t take advantage of those kinds of measures.&quot;
--Cary Sherman, President, RIAA, June 2002
&quot;Decoying and Spoofing are the most commonly known techniques that we employ. &quot;
so surely if spoofing or decoying is illegal, police would have had them ages ago, and there site is still up, if fbi were investigating them it would have been taken down ages ago</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>off MDs site:<br />
 	“[Spoofing is] an appropriate response to the problem of peer-to-peer piracy,&#8221; and &#8220;a self-help measure that is completely lawful &#8230; I think it would be crazy if record labels, or motion picture studios or any other owners of content didn&#8217;t take advantage of those kinds of measures.&#8221;<br />
&#8211;Cary Sherman, President, RIAA, June 2002<br />
&#8220;Decoying and Spoofing are the most commonly known techniques that we employ. &#8221;<br />
so surely if spoofing or decoying is illegal, police would have had them ages ago, and there site is still up, if fbi were investigating them it would have been taken down ages ago</p>
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		<title>By: me</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13397/comment-page-1#comment-180257</link>
		<dc:creator>me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 10:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i dont think they have been arrested at all, 1) the pic looks fake, 2) show me a real news site that its on, cos this is big news and yet its not on a single news site
so im gonna go with thie being aload of crap</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i dont think they have been arrested at all, 1) the pic looks fake, 2) show me a real news site that its on, cos this is big news and yet its not on a single news site<br />
so im gonna go with thie being aload of crap</p>
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		<title>By: the5cardstud</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13397/comment-page-1#comment-180179</link>
		<dc:creator>the5cardstud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 04:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>------------------- from news.p2p.net -----------------------

The FBI has also requested a hold on the pair, as they investigate the negligent storage and subsequent loss of employees&#039; personnel information, distribution of animal-human sex images on their MiVii site, and crimes from their repeated accesses and modification of 3rd-party computer sites without authorization. 

The Onion, in one of its trademark investigative-reporting articles, uncovered that NBC&#039;s &quot;Dateline&quot; newsmagazine was planning a two-part expose on Randy Saaf and his company, Mediadefender.  NBC cancelled the plans, even before filming was complete.  NBC refuses to confirm or deny the story. Chris Hansen, speaking to an undercover Onion reporter, said, &quot;what they were doing was so sick and so depraved, I don&#039;t understand why NBC-Universal pulled the plug on it.&quot;

Meanwhile, filings are expected in Los Angeles County civil courts, as Saaf&#039;s employees and customers line up recoup their losses from the company&#039;s misrepresentations and failed efforts.

------------------- from news.p2p.net -----------------------</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;- from news.p2p.net &#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>The FBI has also requested a hold on the pair, as they investigate the negligent storage and subsequent loss of employees&#8217; personnel information, distribution of animal-human sex images on their MiVii site, and crimes from their repeated accesses and modification of 3rd-party computer sites without authorization. </p>
<p>The Onion, in one of its trademark investigative-reporting articles, uncovered that NBC&#8217;s &#8220;Dateline&#8221; newsmagazine was planning a two-part expose on Randy Saaf and his company, Mediadefender.  NBC cancelled the plans, even before filming was complete.  NBC refuses to confirm or deny the story. Chris Hansen, speaking to an undercover Onion reporter, said, &#8220;what they were doing was so sick and so depraved, I don&#8217;t understand why NBC-Universal pulled the plug on it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Meanwhile, filings are expected in Los Angeles County civil courts, as Saaf&#8217;s employees and customers line up recoup their losses from the company&#8217;s misrepresentations and failed efforts.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;- from news.p2p.net &#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
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		<title>By: the5cardstud</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13397/comment-page-1#comment-180178</link>
		<dc:creator>the5cardstud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 04:25:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another blog that I read -- news.p2p.net -- adds more to the story!!!!

---------8</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another blog that I read &#8212; news.p2p.net &#8212; adds more to the story!!!!</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;8</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13397/comment-page-1#comment-180034</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 20:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hopefully this has put a shill in this bag of shit of  Randy Saaf who is not worth the space he is occupying nor the chemical crap that make is body.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hopefully this has put a shill in this bag of shit of  Randy Saaf who is not worth the space he is occupying nor the chemical crap that make is body.</p>
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		<title>By: the5cardstud</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13397/comment-page-1#comment-180002</link>
		<dc:creator>the5cardstud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 19:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, it&#039;s fake news.  Satire.  It would be both funny and tragic if some credible news site reported it as fact.  

Quick fact check: http://redrock.co.clark.nv.us/ccdcincustody/inCustodySearch.aspx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, it&#8217;s fake news.  Satire.  It would be both funny and tragic if some credible news site reported it as fact.  </p>
<p>Quick fact check: <a href="http://redrock.co.clark.nv.us/ccdcincustody/inCustodySearch.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://redrock.co.clark.nv.us/ccdcincustody/inCustodySearch.aspx</a></p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13397/comment-page-1#comment-180001</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 19:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to admit, faking this article was silly. Considering that the company MediaDefender might actually be facing legal action as a result. Satire usually applies when something has little credence, this too closely resembles reality to be satire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to admit, faking this article was silly. Considering that the company MediaDefender might actually be facing legal action as a result. Satire usually applies when something has little credence, this too closely resembles reality to be satire.</p>
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		<title>By: Morg</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13397/comment-page-1#comment-179995</link>
		<dc:creator>Morg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 19:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree. This achieves what it sets out to achieve.

It is extremely unlikely that the mainstream news companies will give this incident the attention it deserves. 

Posts such as this are performing a service.

- Morg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree. This achieves what it sets out to achieve.</p>
<p>It is extremely unlikely that the mainstream news companies will give this incident the attention it deserves. </p>
<p>Posts such as this are performing a service.</p>
<p>- Morg</p>
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		<title>By: jackson</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13397/comment-page-1#comment-179987</link>
		<dc:creator>jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 18:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Given the landscape of this situation, it seems to me that this is quite lame.  So much for this sites credibility.  You had me, and lost me in under a minute.  Nice work.

jackson</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given the landscape of this situation, it seems to me that this is quite lame.  So much for this sites credibility.  You had me, and lost me in under a minute.  Nice work.</p>
<p>jackson</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13397/comment-page-1#comment-179946</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 16:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;Satire usually has a definite target, which may be a person or group of people, an idea or attitude, an institution or a social practice. It is found in many artistic forms of expression, including literature, plays, commentary, and media such as song lyrics. Often the target is examined by being held up for ridicule, typically in the hope of shaming it into reform.&quot; - The Wikipedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satire&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But I admit: there&#039;s little chance of reform in this instance :)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Satire usually has a definite target, which may be a person or group of people, an idea or attitude, an institution or a social practice. It is found in many artistic forms of expression, including literature, plays, commentary, and media such as song lyrics. Often the target is examined by being held up for ridicule, typically in the hope of shaming it into reform.&#8221; &#8211; The Wikipedia &#8211; <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satire" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satire</a></p>
<p>But I admit: there&#8217;s little chance of reform in this instance <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13397/comment-page-1#comment-179940</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 16:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um... why is p2pnet posting fake articles?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um&#8230; why is p2pnet posting fake articles?</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13397/comment-page-1#comment-179931</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 16:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is a fucking fake...

get ur heads out of ur asses for once, ok?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is a fucking fake&#8230;</p>
<p>get ur heads out of ur asses for once, ok?</p>
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