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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13481/comment-page-1#comment-184950</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 17:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a letter that WIPO should send to all the kids of the world. 

Dear Beloved  Kids

We are your friend and want to help you in avoiding trouble. You may have read the message when playing a DVD that states that copyright infringement copying of the DVD may result in five years in jail and a penalty of $250,000.

Surely uou have asked yourself why such a draconian penalty? .... for just copying a DVD that may result in the loss of a $10 profit to the DVD producer, the money the producer did not make because you decided not to purchase the DVD, and copied it instead.

Why a penalty 25,000 times greater than the actual damages? And jail time in the company of murderes and drug dealers on top of that, up to five years?

There are good reasons for that, our dear and beloved friend.

We have found that unsless the penalties are dreaconian people will simply no obey the law, with the potential that people will stop buying CDs. Than the actors you admire so much will stop finding work with the movie studios and may actually go hungry. Just imagine Tom cruise, Robert Redford, Robin Wiliams and Tom Hanks asking for help at the Salvation Army.

You don&#039;t want that, do you? We at WIPO don&#039;t want that either. 

For sure we dont want to see children in a cell shared with murderes and drug dealers. Beside, the punishment is far greate than five years in jail if we consider the pain to your parents and siblings. To get an idea, just multiply 5 year by the number of members in your family. Just think, one of your family members could comit suicide as a result of you copying one single DVD. We don&#039;t want you to commit that error.

A final advise. Drug dealing is less risky than copying a DVD. After all, drug dealers hav a pre-arranged web of lawyers ready to represent the dealers once they are arrested. DVD copiers have no such service available. Better to take up dreug dealing instead.

Your friendly WIPO adviser.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a letter that WIPO should send to all the kids of the world. </p>
<p>Dear Beloved  Kids</p>
<p>We are your friend and want to help you in avoiding trouble. You may have read the message when playing a DVD that states that copyright infringement copying of the DVD may result in five years in jail and a penalty of $250,000.</p>
<p>Surely uou have asked yourself why such a draconian penalty? &#8230;. for just copying a DVD that may result in the loss of a $10 profit to the DVD producer, the money the producer did not make because you decided not to purchase the DVD, and copied it instead.</p>
<p>Why a penalty 25,000 times greater than the actual damages? And jail time in the company of murderes and drug dealers on top of that, up to five years?</p>
<p>There are good reasons for that, our dear and beloved friend.</p>
<p>We have found that unsless the penalties are dreaconian people will simply no obey the law, with the potential that people will stop buying CDs. Than the actors you admire so much will stop finding work with the movie studios and may actually go hungry. Just imagine Tom cruise, Robert Redford, Robin Wiliams and Tom Hanks asking for help at the Salvation Army.</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t want that, do you? We at WIPO don&#8217;t want that either. </p>
<p>For sure we dont want to see children in a cell shared with murderes and drug dealers. Beside, the punishment is far greate than five years in jail if we consider the pain to your parents and siblings. To get an idea, just multiply 5 year by the number of members in your family. Just think, one of your family members could comit suicide as a result of you copying one single DVD. We don&#8217;t want you to commit that error.</p>
<p>A final advise. Drug dealing is less risky than copying a DVD. After all, drug dealers hav a pre-arranged web of lawyers ready to represent the dealers once they are arrested. DVD copiers have no such service available. Better to take up dreug dealing instead.</p>
<p>Your friendly WIPO adviser.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13481/comment-page-1#comment-184481</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 22:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why are you guys so surprised? an organisation where even the director general misrepresents stuff so blatantly, of course such an organisation is well in bed with those obsolete label parasites and will use their propaganda without hesitation!


&quot;In 2006, Idris moved to correct his recorded birth date at WIPO from 1945 to 1954, more than two decades after joining the organisation and climbing the ranks. The WIPO paper took aim at a confidential report by the internal auditor that found a pattern of decades of misrepresentation of his age by the director general, which may have helped him to obtain higher positions in the organisation, according to a copy obtained of the report (IPW, WIPO, 20 February 2007).&quot;
http://www.ip-watch.org/weblog/index.php?p=761&amp;res=800_ff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why are you guys so surprised? an organisation where even the director general misrepresents stuff so blatantly, of course such an organisation is well in bed with those obsolete label parasites and will use their propaganda without hesitation!</p>
<p>&#8220;In 2006, Idris moved to correct his recorded birth date at WIPO from 1945 to 1954, more than two decades after joining the organisation and climbing the ranks. The WIPO paper took aim at a confidential report by the internal auditor that found a pattern of decades of misrepresentation of his age by the director general, which may have helped him to obtain higher positions in the organisation, according to a copy obtained of the report (IPW, WIPO, 20 February 2007).&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.ip-watch.org/weblog/index.php?p=761&amp;res=800_ff" rel="nofollow">http://www.ip-watch.org/weblog/index.php?p=761&amp;res=800_ff</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rafael Venegas</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13481/comment-page-1#comment-184276</link>
		<dc:creator>Rafael Venegas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 12:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A question that should have been asked but was not:

If you take songs that you do not own, claim to own them and authorize record companies to record and sell millions of recors, is that infringement?

Answer: No, according to US Federal courts. You can do that anytime and nothing will happens. Just don&#039;t share an mp3 fril. That is a real crime.

Read about the court decision here:
http://www.libervis.com/article/judge_appropriation_of_songs_is_not_infringement

Let WIPO explain this to kids.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A question that should have been asked but was not:</p>
<p>If you take songs that you do not own, claim to own them and authorize record companies to record and sell millions of recors, is that infringement?</p>
<p>Answer: No, according to US Federal courts. You can do that anytime and nothing will happens. Just don&#8217;t share an mp3 fril. That is a real crime.</p>
<p>Read about the court decision here:<br />
<a href="http://www.libervis.com/article/judge_appropriation_of_songs_is_not_infringement" rel="nofollow">http://www.libervis.com/article/judge_appropriation_of_songs_is_not_infringement</a></p>
<p>Let WIPO explain this to kids.</p>
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		<title>By: Adolf Unsupporter</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13481/comment-page-1#comment-184192</link>
		<dc:creator>Adolf Unsupporter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 07:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you identify which of the following are legal and illegal actions?

Yes I will too

1) Making a copy of your classmateâs CD for your MP3 player:
It should be freaken Legal Man because why are you paying hundreds of dollars for a mp3 player when you can&#039;t get free music bonus for all the freaken money you pay.
Besides mp3 players are expensive and nothing is illegal about putting songs on your expensive mp3 player.
So it&#039;e LEGAL

2) Giving a friend a CD you bought for her as a present:
This is Terrorism because then you are giving into the RIAA, MPAA, CRIA.

3) Giving a classmate a copy of a CD you bought for yourself:
This is LEGAL I repeat it L E G A L because you show that you care and that you don&#039;t wanna support terrorism just to help a fellow classmate. By following this example your following the True World Of God by helping another person by making a copy of your cd.

4) Swapping a CD on an unauthorized P2P network:

So Trully Legal because not only are you against the foreign terrorist organizations such as the MPAA/Bush Administration/RIAA/CRIA(Canada eh)/BRIA(Britian)/ERIA(Europe)/ARIA(Africa) you are helping one another and your following the True World Of God by helping another person by filesharing. Heck in preschool your taught by ethics &quot;Sharing Is Caring&quot;. I know your copying a cd but it&#039;s cheaper and means everyone can have a free copy and not just 1 kid or 2.

It would be illegal to support terrorism and terrorists should be thrown in Guantamo Bay

5) Selling a CD that you bought at a second-hand garage sale:
Legal because you will stop Terrorism till they fall and go out of business.

6) Uploading a song written, composed and performed by you on a free downloading site:
Super Legal because your beating the unfair $$$ terrorists at their own game without becoming a terrorist. Great Job Kiddo Woohoo!!

7) Sending an MP3 file with your favorite song by e-mail to a classmate
Legal: This helps stop and prevent terrorism. Keep your classmates from following the Nazis which also the corporations were helping during the extermination of the Jews. So if your with the illegal RIAA you support Adolf Hitler, the KKK, neo-nazis, and neo-cons of the Bush Administration.

I WIN! 7 out of 7! This is an A+! A 101 score WoW!

Great Job Kiddo woohoo!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you identify which of the following are legal and illegal actions?</p>
<p>Yes I will too</p>
<p>1) Making a copy of your classmateâs CD for your MP3 player:<br />
It should be freaken Legal Man because why are you paying hundreds of dollars for a mp3 player when you can&#8217;t get free music bonus for all the freaken money you pay.<br />
Besides mp3 players are expensive and nothing is illegal about putting songs on your expensive mp3 player.<br />
So it&#8217;e LEGAL</p>
<p>2) Giving a friend a CD you bought for her as a present:<br />
This is Terrorism because then you are giving into the RIAA, MPAA, CRIA.</p>
<p>3) Giving a classmate a copy of a CD you bought for yourself:<br />
This is LEGAL I repeat it L E G A L because you show that you care and that you don&#8217;t wanna support terrorism just to help a fellow classmate. By following this example your following the True World Of God by helping another person by making a copy of your cd.</p>
<p>4) Swapping a CD on an unauthorized P2P network:</p>
<p>So Trully Legal because not only are you against the foreign terrorist organizations such as the MPAA/Bush Administration/RIAA/CRIA(Canada eh)/BRIA(Britian)/ERIA(Europe)/ARIA(Africa) you are helping one another and your following the True World Of God by helping another person by filesharing. Heck in preschool your taught by ethics &#8220;Sharing Is Caring&#8221;. I know your copying a cd but it&#8217;s cheaper and means everyone can have a free copy and not just 1 kid or 2.</p>
<p>It would be illegal to support terrorism and terrorists should be thrown in Guantamo Bay</p>
<p>5) Selling a CD that you bought at a second-hand garage sale:<br />
Legal because you will stop Terrorism till they fall and go out of business.</p>
<p>6) Uploading a song written, composed and performed by you on a free downloading site:<br />
Super Legal because your beating the unfair $$$ terrorists at their own game without becoming a terrorist. Great Job Kiddo Woohoo!!</p>
<p>7) Sending an MP3 file with your favorite song by e-mail to a classmate<br />
Legal: This helps stop and prevent terrorism. Keep your classmates from following the Nazis which also the corporations were helping during the extermination of the Jews. So if your with the illegal RIAA you support Adolf Hitler, the KKK, neo-nazis, and neo-cons of the Bush Administration.</p>
<p>I WIN! 7 out of 7! This is an A+! A 101 score WoW!</p>
<p>Great Job Kiddo woohoo!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13481/comment-page-1#comment-183542</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 03:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;As Iâve said before, thank God we home-school our daughter.&quot;

Best one in the post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;As Iâve said before, thank God we home-school our daughter.&#8221;</p>
<p>Best one in the post!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13481/comment-page-1#comment-183455</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 00:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a bunch of ass-WIPO&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a bunch of ass-WIPO&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13481/comment-page-1#comment-183332</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 19:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This reminds me of the Nazi propaganda I heard about in high school. All of that Nazi &quot;we can do what we want to them because they aren&#039;t really humans&quot; crap.
Brainwashing is still brainwashing, just ask the Taliban.

Another thing, isn&#039;t this wipo group in copyright violation with their group&#039;s name? Mad TV created a masked wrestler named &quot;El Asso Wipo&quot; for some of their skits. Mad TV should sue these copyright violators out of business!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This reminds me of the Nazi propaganda I heard about in high school. All of that Nazi &#8220;we can do what we want to them because they aren&#8217;t really humans&#8221; crap.<br />
Brainwashing is still brainwashing, just ask the Taliban.</p>
<p>Another thing, isn&#8217;t this wipo group in copyright violation with their group&#8217;s name? Mad TV created a masked wrestler named &#8220;El Asso Wipo&#8221; for some of their skits. Mad TV should sue these copyright violators out of business!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13481/comment-page-1#comment-183264</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you identify which of the following are legal and illegal actions?

Yes.

1) Making a copy of your classmateâs CD for your MP3 player: 
*Legal and recommended This show appreciation for what your friends are doing for you. 

2) Giving a friend a CD you bought for her as a present: 
*Illegal. This is supporting terrorism punished by law. You should no longer buy CD. 

3) Giving a classmate a copy of a CD you bought for yourself:
*Legal and recommended This show compassion for your friends I do this all the time. (Am I nice or what?) 

4) Swapping a CD on an unauthorized P2P network:
*Legal. First there is no authorized p2p network and the alternative would be supporting foreign terrorist organization such as the RIAA or the CRIAA. That would be illegal.

5) Selling a CD that you bought at a second-hand garage sale:
*Legal and recommended because it help put the music parasites such as Vivendi universal, Sony/BMG, EMI and Time Warner out of business.

6) Uploading a song written, composed and performed by you on a free downloading site:
*Legal same answer as 5. While they download your songs they don&#039;t dowload RIAA crap so that their stuff become forgoten.  

7) Sending an MP3 file with your favorite song by e-mail to a classmate
*Legal and recommended This prevents your classmate from supporting terrorism.

I WIN! 7 out of 7! This is an A!

Yes!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you identify which of the following are legal and illegal actions?</p>
<p>Yes.</p>
<p>1) Making a copy of your classmateâs CD for your MP3 player:<br />
*Legal and recommended This show appreciation for what your friends are doing for you. </p>
<p>2) Giving a friend a CD you bought for her as a present:<br />
*Illegal. This is supporting terrorism punished by law. You should no longer buy CD. </p>
<p>3) Giving a classmate a copy of a CD you bought for yourself:<br />
*Legal and recommended This show compassion for your friends I do this all the time. (Am I nice or what?) </p>
<p>4) Swapping a CD on an unauthorized P2P network:<br />
*Legal. First there is no authorized p2p network and the alternative would be supporting foreign terrorist organization such as the RIAA or the CRIAA. That would be illegal.</p>
<p>5) Selling a CD that you bought at a second-hand garage sale:<br />
*Legal and recommended because it help put the music parasites such as Vivendi universal, Sony/BMG, EMI and Time Warner out of business.</p>
<p>6) Uploading a song written, composed and performed by you on a free downloading site:<br />
*Legal same answer as 5. While they download your songs they don&#8217;t dowload RIAA crap so that their stuff become forgoten.  </p>
<p>7) Sending an MP3 file with your favorite song by e-mail to a classmate<br />
*Legal and recommended This prevents your classmate from supporting terrorism.</p>
<p>I WIN! 7 out of 7! This is an A!</p>
<p>Yes!</p>
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		<title>By: Rafael Venegas</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13481/comment-page-1#comment-183221</link>
		<dc:creator>Rafael Venegas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;P2P file sharing makes it harder for new authors and performers to sign production and distribution deals.&quot;

More properly

P2P file sharing makes it harder for new authors and performers to sign production and distribution GIVEAWAY deals.

&quot;2) Giving a friend a CD you bought for her as a present is legal according to the first-sale doctrine.&quot;

and

&quot;a second-hand garage sale is legal according to the first-sale doctrine.&quot;.

Nonsense.
Anything you buy, you can give away or resell or destroy. This is a natural right and has nothing to do with copyright rights.

&quot;because as the author, you can do whatever you want with the works you create&quot;

Wrong. Tell this to some who was sued for alleged difamation in a published article.

&quot;Sending an MP3 file with your favorite song by e-mail to your 60 classmate is illegal&quot;.

A contradition to what was previously  said, &quot;because as the author, you can do whatever you want with the works you create&quot;. Besides many works (public domain works, or as allowed by the author....) may be distributed in any way, incling as mp3 files in e-mails.

As I have said before, legal advise by non lawyers (or unidentified lawyers) or by lawyers not licensed where the advise is received is dangerous and possibly illegal. WIPO is not a lawyer,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;P2P file sharing makes it harder for new authors and performers to sign production and distribution deals.&#8221;</p>
<p>More properly</p>
<p>P2P file sharing makes it harder for new authors and performers to sign production and distribution GIVEAWAY deals.</p>
<p>&#8220;2) Giving a friend a CD you bought for her as a present is legal according to the first-sale doctrine.&#8221;</p>
<p>and</p>
<p>&#8220;a second-hand garage sale is legal according to the first-sale doctrine.&#8221;.</p>
<p>Nonsense.<br />
Anything you buy, you can give away or resell or destroy. This is a natural right and has nothing to do with copyright rights.</p>
<p>&#8220;because as the author, you can do whatever you want with the works you create&#8221;</p>
<p>Wrong. Tell this to some who was sued for alleged difamation in a published article.</p>
<p>&#8220;Sending an MP3 file with your favorite song by e-mail to your 60 classmate is illegal&#8221;.</p>
<p>A contradition to what was previously  said, &#8220;because as the author, you can do whatever you want with the works you create&#8221;. Besides many works (public domain works, or as allowed by the author&#8230;.) may be distributed in any way, incling as mp3 files in e-mails.</p>
<p>As I have said before, legal advise by non lawyers (or unidentified lawyers) or by lawyers not licensed where the advise is received is dangerous and possibly illegal. WIPO is not a lawyer,</p>
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		<title>By: RIAA rep</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13481/comment-page-1#comment-183133</link>
		<dc:creator>RIAA rep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 13:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent: get em young! Education is the best way to ensure compliance with our interests.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent: get em young! Education is the best way to ensure compliance with our interests.</p>
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