Demonoid mystery partly solved
p2pnet news | Freedom:- The Demonoid controversy can now be at least partly cleared up.
Demonoid is the author of not merely of its own discontent, but also its own disconnect.
Yesterday, “Is Demonoid back? Or isn’t it?” – we asked.
Because the site has been going up and down like a yo-yo with Canadians unable to access it, with the CRIA (Canadian Recording Industry Association of America) cast in the role of principal villain under two scenarios:
1) By some means or another, it’d compelled Netelligent, Demonoid’s ISP, to block Canadian users
Or
2) The CRIA leaned on the people who run the site, somehow convincing them it was in their best interests to block Canadian users.
We can now confirm the second option is the correct one.
“Neither Netelligent nor any of our upstream providers have received any communications from [the] CRIA or any lawyer representing [the] CRIA,” company spokesman Billy Krassakopoulos told p2pnet.
He went on:
The decision to block access to Canadian visitors was made entirely by Demonoid.
As for reinstatement of the site, this decision is entirely up to Demonoid.
Now the questions remain:
Exactly who threatened Demonoid, what form did the threat take and, most important of all, why is the site still down?
Although Demonoid may be hosted in Canada presumably, the people who run it live outside the country.
So why are they listening to the CRIA in the first place?
Says a post on this site:
We received a letter from a lawyer represeting the CRIA, they were threatening with legal action and We need to start blocking Canadian traffic because of this.
If you reside in Canada, that is the reason you are being redirected to this message. Thanks for your understanding, and sorry for any inconvenience.
http://www.demonoiders.com/, which yesterday was listing various proxies Canadians might use to be able to access the service, was showing ‘Standby Mode’ when we checked at 12:20 pm Pacific.
Did the CRIA instruct the admins to take that down as well?
Meanwhile, what’s Netelligent’s policy on shut-downs?
In Canada, “a person doesn’t authorize infringement merely by authorizing the use of equipment that could be used to infringe copyright,” says Krassakopoulos, adding:
There has to be a relationship or degree of control between the alleged authorizer and the persons who committed the copyright infringement.
Once we are made aware of a violation of copyright infringement on our network the first step we take is to validate that claim. If we believe it to be a valid claim then we inform the offending customer about the complaint and request that the material be removed within a timely fashion.
Definitely stay tuned.
Jon Newton – p2pnet
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October 2nd, 2007 at 3:56 pm
Now, that’s just hurtful
October 2nd, 2007 at 4:24 pm
hmmm… is there any way to maybe make your ISP “Look” like a US one, tricking demonoid.com into thinking we live in the US?
October 2nd, 2007 at 5:09 pm
Why not mirror demonoid in Poland, Ukraine, Serbia, Switzerland, Spain, Italy, France, Germany, Sealand and then shut down the .ca hosted version? The tracker is running fine, as usual. Or maybe I shouldn’t say that, since those pesky MediaDefender-folk are reading in ‘the blogosphere’ as well. Oh wait, they’ve been pwned!
October 2nd, 2007 at 7:40 pm
They dont even need to mirror. Change server hosts.
Also, how is cria going to get a judge to apply canadian law on foriegn soil? to a person who probably isnt canadian?
That would like me trying to get a french citizen arrested for murder in france and sent to canada for trial. It doesnt work. My analogy may be wrong, but ya get what I mean.
October 2nd, 2007 at 8:13 pm
It’s easy to get around. I got HideIP Platinum, I can access the site (even though i dont need too) through a given proxy (usually from Asia somewhere). But the trackers are from there, so just put utorrent or whatever client under a proxy. there is tons of proxy lists out there. so far i’ve been downloading ok.
October 2nd, 2007 at 9:08 pm
Screw Demonoid. I cant believe they caved by some letter not allowing Canadions access to a site that is hosted in Canada!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Canada is the new CHINA!!!!!!!!!!!
October 2nd, 2007 at 11:55 pm
You know what I just realized?
I cant even go there to check out the forums!
Even if I dont even want to download anything I CANT VIEW THE FORUM!!!!!!!!!!!!
Basterds!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 3rd, 2007 at 5:31 am
Neo,stockwell day almost gave the CIRA ammo by letting the ISP’s hand over data but backtracked after it was leaked. I think we should must ban everything,imports and all and just isolate ourselves from the bad bad world.
Ebay seller will have to pay for tax,buyers mgiht have to as well soon. I hate this world,I wish I went to mars and stayed there.
October 3rd, 2007 at 11:06 pm
we here in canada are getting screwed royally. wish cria would mind their own business
October 3rd, 2007 at 11:07 pm
fuck the cria
November 9th, 2007 at 5:50 pm
fuckin canada took them off line for ever mother fuckers
November 10th, 2007 at 4:41 pm
This sucks, and i’m struggling to accept that READER’s WRITE might be correct ;.[
November 12th, 2007 at 5:31 pm
Dumass Canada,Just Wait untill someone invades them
Hopefully we will just sit back and snicker.
November 15th, 2007 at 9:37 am
WHO CARES DEMONOID SUCKS ASS WITH HIS FUCKEN BIN FILES AND NO CUE I KNOW I WONT MISS HIS CRAP DOWNLOADS