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	<title>Comments on: Jammie Thomas vs the RIAA: Day II</title>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13543#comment-205002</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 06:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13543#comment-205002</guid>
		<description>They're setting an example. Jammie Thomas doesn't matter. They're hoping to scare would-be sharers into not sharing. In that sense, the $222,000 is completely justified. Ms. Thomas needs to abide by the law. If this law is so unjust, why don't you ask your representative and senators to repeal it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;re setting an example. Jammie Thomas doesn&#8217;t matter. They&#8217;re hoping to scare would-be sharers into not sharing. In that sense, the $222,000 is completely justified. Ms. Thomas needs to abide by the law. If this law is so unjust, why don&#8217;t you ask your representative and senators to repeal it?</p>
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		<title>By: Disgusted with American Legal System</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13543#comment-186764</link>
		<author>Disgusted with American Legal System</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 13:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13543#comment-186764</guid>
		<description>So Jammie Thomas lost today. $222,000 fine? A single mother on a very low income? How an earth do you justify that?! 

If she had robbed cd's with the same amount of songs from a shop and shared them with her friends, would she have been fined this much? Back in the '80's we copied eachothers tapes all the time. What has changed other than the format?

So big companies are losing money. It happens every day. ALL companies need to change and diversify to grow in a changing world. That $222,000 fine will just go to pay some fat exec's bonus while poor Jammie must live in poverty for the most part of her life because she had the cheek to share some music.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Jammie Thomas lost today. $222,000 fine? A single mother on a very low income? How an earth do you justify that?! </p>
<p>If she had robbed cd&#8217;s with the same amount of songs from a shop and shared them with her friends, would she have been fined this much? Back in the &#8217;80&#8217;s we copied eachothers tapes all the time. What has changed other than the format?</p>
<p>So big companies are losing money. It happens every day. ALL companies need to change and diversify to grow in a changing world. That $222,000 fine will just go to pay some fat exec&#8217;s bonus while poor Jammie must live in poverty for the most part of her life because she had the cheek to share some music.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Allen</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13543#comment-186736</link>
		<author>Richard Allen</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 12:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13543#comment-186736</guid>
		<description>I think this is a wake up call for all you Illiterate computer users.  Limewire usually starts up with your computer and is working in the background..very few people like her probably knew this.

So having 1702  files in her shared folder is just nuts.  

You should copy files to another folder or to cd/dvd then wipe all the traces clean in your shared folder......Time to learn how to Delete files permanently with programs like "Evidence eliminator" and "clean disk security"   and when to keep your shared file very low, i keep less then 20  mostly really obscure 60's northern soul, stuff almost nobody will download.

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could it be proved that it was her and not somebody else, perhaps her son, that donwloaded/shared music?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is a wake up call for all you Illiterate computer users.  Limewire usually starts up with your computer and is working in the background..very few people like her probably knew this.</p>
<p>So having 1702  files in her shared folder is just nuts.  </p>
<p>You should copy files to another folder or to cd/dvd then wipe all the traces clean in your shared folder&#8230;&#8230;Time to learn how to Delete files permanently with programs like &#8220;Evidence eliminator&#8221; and &#8220;clean disk security&#8221;   and when to keep your shared file very low, i keep less then 20  mostly really obscure 60&#8217;s northern soul, stuff almost nobody will download.</p>
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could it be proved that it was her and not somebody else, perhaps her son, that donwloaded/shared music?</p>
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		<title>By: Think Deeper</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13543#comment-186682</link>
		<author>Think Deeper</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 09:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13543#comment-186682</guid>
		<description>I see this lawsuit's result as totally irrelevant. The problem discussed here centered on minor details (could it be proved that it was her and not somebody else, perhaps her son, that donwloaded/shared music?). Even if she won, the RIAA would just be after others whom they could prove guilty more easily. I feel it is a bit childish to point at failures in lawsuits (such as  suits against dead persons) since any massive number of lawsuits will inevitably result in such errors.

Now the real problem I see is the way the whole music indudstry is set up and running. I am not a specialist at all but I have a feeling, correct me if I'm wrong, that the biggest part of your $$ spent on a CD will not reach the artist/composer and will not be used to cover production costs, which are quite small with the economies of scale. It goes to the big 4 and other companies, which created such conditions that it is increasingly difficult for anybody with the talent and ambition of becoming a world star to try and do it without these sharks on their backs. It is this which I see needs to be tackled and initiatives of emerging or already known artists for direct sales (see the Radiohead initiative described in one of the articles on this site) deserve the most support possible. If artists will styart believing they can do without the shark industry, prices for their CDs/legal online downloads will drop sharply. File-sharing will not disappear as such, but it will be negligeable (mainly kids and students, before they have any kind of money to pay). 

Just my 2 cents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see this lawsuit&#8217;s result as totally irrelevant. The problem discussed here centered on minor details (could it be proved that it was her and not somebody else, perhaps her son, that donwloaded/shared music?). Even if she won, the RIAA would just be after others whom they could prove guilty more easily. I feel it is a bit childish to point at failures in lawsuits (such as  suits against dead persons) since any massive number of lawsuits will inevitably result in such errors.</p>
<p>Now the real problem I see is the way the whole music indudstry is set up and running. I am not a specialist at all but I have a feeling, correct me if I&#8217;m wrong, that the biggest part of your $$ spent on a CD will not reach the artist/composer and will not be used to cover production costs, which are quite small with the economies of scale. It goes to the big 4 and other companies, which created such conditions that it is increasingly difficult for anybody with the talent and ambition of becoming a world star to try and do it without these sharks on their backs. It is this which I see needs to be tackled and initiatives of emerging or already known artists for direct sales (see the Radiohead initiative described in one of the articles on this site) deserve the most support possible. If artists will styart believing they can do without the shark industry, prices for their CDs/legal online downloads will drop sharply. File-sharing will not disappear as such, but it will be negligeable (mainly kids and students, before they have any kind of money to pay). </p>
<p>Just my 2 cents.</p>
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		<title>By: Free Trasher</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13543#comment-186659</link>
		<author>Free Trasher</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 07:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13543#comment-186659</guid>
		<description>n00b</description>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13543#comment-186646</link>
		<author>Bob</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 05:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13543#comment-186646</guid>
		<description>sadly the RIAA won and the first one dared to argue got a death penalty.  For me, just forget about RIAA and its companies, try some nice online games instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sadly the RIAA won and the first one dared to argue got a death penalty.  For me, just forget about RIAA and its companies, try some nice online games instead.</p>
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		<title>By: fkhy934msbvhpi</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13543#comment-186364</link>
		<author>fkhy934msbvhpi</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 15:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13543#comment-186364</guid>
		<description>The RIAA will win, because they are rich and powerful, regardless how flawed their arguments are. :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The RIAA will win, because they are rich and powerful, regardless how flawed their arguments are. <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Free Thinker</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13543#comment-186354</link>
		<author>Free Thinker</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 14:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13543#comment-186354</guid>
		<description>"Thankyou"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Thankyou&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: bo</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13543#comment-186341</link>
		<author>bo</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 14:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13543#comment-186341</guid>
		<description>um, great retort to 9:06pm...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>um, great retort to 9:06pm&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Free Thinker</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13543#comment-186329</link>
		<author>Free Thinker</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 13:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13543#comment-186329</guid>
		<description>Anti Reich-Wingnut Says:
October 3rd, 2007 at 9:49 pm

“Free Thinker” is not only a troll, but a walking oxymoron. Like... Yeah Jon….please ban the guy’s IP.


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Perhaps YOU should be banned for making PERSONAL ATTACKS, simply because you disagree with what I have to say; these are only words. Sounds like the truth is getting to you then my friend.......

But on the other hand, I find your ineffectual rants quite amusing, so please stay!! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anti Reich-Wingnut Says:<br />
October 3rd, 2007 at 9:49 pm</p>
<p>“Free Thinker” is not only a troll, but a walking oxymoron. Like&#8230; Yeah Jon….please ban the guy’s IP.</p>
<p>**********************</p>
<p>Perhaps YOU should be banned for making PERSONAL ATTACKS, simply because you disagree with what I have to say; these are only words. Sounds like the truth is getting to you then my friend&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>But on the other hand, I find your ineffectual rants quite amusing, so please stay!! <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13543#comment-186226</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 06:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13543#comment-186226</guid>
		<description>"I am simply excercising my right to express my thoughts on this case, as I see it."

Mee too! Hang  Free loser and all the RIAA parasites NOW!

Tarr and feather the remain.

My constitutional right!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I am simply excercising my right to express my thoughts on this case, as I see it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Mee too! Hang  Free loser and all the RIAA parasites NOW!</p>
<p>Tarr and feather the remain.</p>
<p>My constitutional right!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13543#comment-186211</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 04:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13543#comment-186211</guid>
		<description>"For everybody’s benefit (not least consumers such as Jammie Thomas) it’s very important that this trial sets the precedent that those who engage in the sharing of copyrighted files will be tracked down and punished for their crimes."

For the big four worm companies benefit (Not least parasite such as "Free Loser Says" or Cary Shitman) it's very important that this trial sets the precedent that those who engage in trempling our constitution and abusing our justice system will be tracked down and punished for their crimes. You and the parasites of the same species do not want to know the very  sinister alternative  that you deserve and is waiting for you in the dark.

You are more dangerous than Ben Laden to our society. In USA we don't need  parasites and traitors such as YOU  working for foreign and evil corporations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;For everybody’s benefit (not least consumers such as Jammie Thomas) it’s very important that this trial sets the precedent that those who engage in the sharing of copyrighted files will be tracked down and punished for their crimes.&#8221;</p>
<p>For the big four worm companies benefit (Not least parasite such as &#8220;Free Loser Says&#8221; or Cary Shitman) it&#8217;s very important that this trial sets the precedent that those who engage in trempling our constitution and abusing our justice system will be tracked down and punished for their crimes. You and the parasites of the same species do not want to know the very  sinister alternative  that you deserve and is waiting for you in the dark.</p>
<p>You are more dangerous than Ben Laden to our society. In USA we don&#8217;t need  parasites and traitors such as YOU  working for foreign and evil corporations.</p>
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		<title>By: Anti Reich-Wingnut</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13543#comment-186201</link>
		<author>Anti Reich-Wingnut</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 03:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13543#comment-186201</guid>
		<description>"Free Thinker" is not only a troll, but a walking oxymoron.  Like the corporate-paid rethug trolls on OTHER boards, he purposefully misinterprets the material at hand as "fact", outright lies, personally attacks those who point out what he is doing, and attempts to misdirect when it becomes obvious to even a blind monkey that he is full of 100% grade-A BS.

Yeah Jon....please ban the guy's IP.  There is a DIFFERENCE between "free speech" and outright lying as "fact"....although you couldn't tell it from Faux Noise (who he obviously gets his "news" from) since they have a court judgment saying they CAN LIE AND CALL IT "NEWS"!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Free Thinker&#8221; is not only a troll, but a walking oxymoron.  Like the corporate-paid rethug trolls on OTHER boards, he purposefully misinterprets the material at hand as &#8220;fact&#8221;, outright lies, personally attacks those who point out what he is doing, and attempts to misdirect when it becomes obvious to even a blind monkey that he is full of 100% grade-A BS.</p>
<p>Yeah Jon&#8230;.please ban the guy&#8217;s IP.  There is a DIFFERENCE between &#8220;free speech&#8221; and outright lying as &#8220;fact&#8221;&#8230;.although you couldn&#8217;t tell it from Faux Noise (who he obviously gets his &#8220;news&#8221; from) since they have a court judgment saying they CAN LIE AND CALL IT &#8220;NEWS&#8221;!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13543#comment-186200</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 03:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13543#comment-186200</guid>
		<description>I hope someone starts a fund to help pay for her legal expenses! I personally would like to be able to pay for and download a file in mp3 format and be able to do with it as I please (DRM free). Until I have that ability I would gladly donate to her cause (more than I have ever spend on music by far). I think it would send a msg to the RIAA that they can play nice and make money or people will just go out an get it for free. The RIAA complains about losing money because people are downloading illegally well they have the option to make money off of the downloading but they insist on blocking you from making a copy for your other computer or a different mp3 device. Eventually this will happen (I think Amazon has started this) but it is sad that people like her have to suffer. Once you have the option to pay for a DRM free download then they can start going after the cheap skates but at this time most music isn’t available in this way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope someone starts a fund to help pay for her legal expenses! I personally would like to be able to pay for and download a file in mp3 format and be able to do with it as I please (DRM free). Until I have that ability I would gladly donate to her cause (more than I have ever spend on music by far). I think it would send a msg to the RIAA that they can play nice and make money or people will just go out an get it for free. The RIAA complains about losing money because people are downloading illegally well they have the option to make money off of the downloading but they insist on blocking you from making a copy for your other computer or a different mp3 device. Eventually this will happen (I think Amazon has started this) but it is sad that people like her have to suffer. Once you have the option to pay for a DRM free download then they can start going after the cheap skates but at this time most music isn’t available in this way.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Allen</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13543#comment-186199</link>
		<author>Richard Allen</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 03:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13543#comment-186199</guid>
		<description>GEEZ you people are THICK!

Who cares about the hard drive, the fact is the riaa targets white communities, white high schools, white colleges and  tries to extra $$$ from them.

Do you own research, it was a fluke she's a Native American.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GEEZ you people are THICK!</p>
<p>Who cares about the hard drive, the fact is the riaa targets white communities, white high schools, white colleges and  tries to extra $$$ from them.</p>
<p>Do you own research, it was a fluke she&#8217;s a Native American.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13543#comment-186174</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 03:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13543#comment-186174</guid>
		<description>I don't know if you are just trolling or just trying to understand what is going on. But let me set you straight about a few things you have mentioined.....


"If the RIAA are going to such great lengths to prosecute this alleged massive distributer of copyrighted material, then it seems to me that they have good evidence for it and that her activities must certainly be causing them harm."



FIRST,  if you would read some of the stories about the RIAA, you would ALSO know that they have actually sued DEAD PEOPLE and that is a FACT....now I don't know about you, but to say they must have good evidence against her is showing your ignorance, as apparently you do not know how deceptive or intimidating the RIAA actually can be. Any organization that sues dead people and will not even investigate weather or not the person is indeed LIVING before issuing a lawsuit brings considerable doubt in my (and others) mind when they say something is true. Think about that.



"After all, the fact that the hard disc was replaced like that after the defendent received notice, is very suspicious, isn’t it? Yes, obviously she has the pretext that it was “for repair”, but oh come on! Think about it, if it was a murder case and the defendent got rid of their gun or whatever, it would be more than a little suspicious, wouldn’t it?"



It would be suspicious IF she KNEW about the lawsuit BEFOREHAND, but again, if you READ the stories, you would already know that. She did not know about the lawsuits when her computer was in for repair. 



"Also, I read somewhere, that 700+ pages of evidence gathered by the RIAA has been ruled inadmissible after a crafty manoeuvre by the defendent’s lawyer. This seems a shame to me, because for any court case, for there to be a fair trial, *all* the evidence must be considered, especially that from the prosecution. I think deep down, the defendent and her lawyer would also be happier if all the information were to be included and might reconsider the inclusion of this evidence."



Again, you are showing ignorance in that you apparently are not aware of the tactics by the RIAA and it's lawyers! There is a CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT against them right now because of the legal tactics they have used in the past and in it they are being accused of EXTORTION as only ONE of the charges. So think about that before you say that RIAA is somehow being mistreated or that they are innocent. 



"For everybody’s benefit (not least consumers such as Jammie Thomas) it’s very important that this trial sets the precedent that those who engage in the sharing of copyrighted files will be tracked down and punished for their crimes."


And again, you sound like you are very ignorant about some of the "people" they have sued...dead people, 14 year olds, mothers who don't know how to turn on a computer... let alone fileshare ...THEN they go AFTER THEIR KIDS! 

The RIAA is not a group of innocents! They hire high priced lawyers to bully and intimidate people into their way of thinking. They use every tactic they can think of that is legal (and some illegal in some cases) to intimidate the people they think are responsible for sharing files. Even as in the case of one mother, if they lose in court ...they still go after her kids. 

Not the kind of organization that is just fighting for it's clients right to recover losses to piracy now is it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if you are just trolling or just trying to understand what is going on. But let me set you straight about a few things you have mentioined&#8230;..</p>
<p>&#8220;If the RIAA are going to such great lengths to prosecute this alleged massive distributer of copyrighted material, then it seems to me that they have good evidence for it and that her activities must certainly be causing them harm.&#8221;</p>
<p>FIRST,  if you would read some of the stories about the RIAA, you would ALSO know that they have actually sued DEAD PEOPLE and that is a FACT&#8230;.now I don&#8217;t know about you, but to say they must have good evidence against her is showing your ignorance, as apparently you do not know how deceptive or intimidating the RIAA actually can be. Any organization that sues dead people and will not even investigate weather or not the person is indeed LIVING before issuing a lawsuit brings considerable doubt in my (and others) mind when they say something is true. Think about that.</p>
<p>&#8220;After all, the fact that the hard disc was replaced like that after the defendent received notice, is very suspicious, isn’t it? Yes, obviously she has the pretext that it was “for repair”, but oh come on! Think about it, if it was a murder case and the defendent got rid of their gun or whatever, it would be more than a little suspicious, wouldn’t it?&#8221;</p>
<p>It would be suspicious IF she KNEW about the lawsuit BEFOREHAND, but again, if you READ the stories, you would already know that. She did not know about the lawsuits when her computer was in for repair. </p>
<p>&#8220;Also, I read somewhere, that 700+ pages of evidence gathered by the RIAA has been ruled inadmissible after a crafty manoeuvre by the defendent’s lawyer. This seems a shame to me, because for any court case, for there to be a fair trial, *all* the evidence must be considered, especially that from the prosecution. I think deep down, the defendent and her lawyer would also be happier if all the information were to be included and might reconsider the inclusion of this evidence.&#8221;</p>
<p>Again, you are showing ignorance in that you apparently are not aware of the tactics by the RIAA and it&#8217;s lawyers! There is a CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT against them right now because of the legal tactics they have used in the past and in it they are being accused of EXTORTION as only ONE of the charges. So think about that before you say that RIAA is somehow being mistreated or that they are innocent. </p>
<p>&#8220;For everybody’s benefit (not least consumers such as Jammie Thomas) it’s very important that this trial sets the precedent that those who engage in the sharing of copyrighted files will be tracked down and punished for their crimes.&#8221;</p>
<p>And again, you sound like you are very ignorant about some of the &#8220;people&#8221; they have sued&#8230;dead people, 14 year olds, mothers who don&#8217;t know how to turn on a computer&#8230; let alone fileshare &#8230;THEN they go AFTER THEIR KIDS! </p>
<p>The RIAA is not a group of innocents! They hire high priced lawyers to bully and intimidate people into their way of thinking. They use every tactic they can think of that is legal (and some illegal in some cases) to intimidate the people they think are responsible for sharing files. Even as in the case of one mother, if they lose in court &#8230;they still go after her kids. </p>
<p>Not the kind of organization that is just fighting for it&#8217;s clients right to recover losses to piracy now is it?</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Allen</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13543#comment-186164</link>
		<author>Richard Allen</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 02:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13543#comment-186164</guid>
		<description>One of these day you people will finally GET IT........the Riaa sues only WHITE PEOPLE   Why are there No lawsuits in Compton, Camden or Newark NJ, Gary IN, South Central LA,  Harlem Crooklyn, Far Rockaway?

White people are the low hanging fruit.....with MONEY!

I Demand Racial Equality in the lawsuits..... I've been a DJ for 20years and nobody black i know is Legal...just look at Craigslist and Ebay...tons of rap hip hop xmix remixes hard drives all black stuff.....

Fair is Fair!


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Brainerd is located just north of the geographical center of Minnesota, 

Demographics
As of the census2 of 2000, there were 13,178 people, 5,623 households, and 3,036 families residing in the city. The population density was 638.4/km² (1,652.8/mi²). There were 5,847 housing units at an average density of 283.3/km² (733.3/mi²). The racial makeup of the city was 95.83% White, 0.71% African American, 1.44% Native American, 0.46% Asian, 0.01% Pacific Islander, 0.26% from other races, and 1.29% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 0.86% of the population. 31.4% were of German, 17.7% Norwegian, 7.1% Swedish, 6.8% Irish and 6.1% United States or American ancestry according to Census 2000.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of these day you people will finally GET IT&#8230;&#8230;..the Riaa sues only WHITE PEOPLE   Why are there No lawsuits in Compton, Camden or Newark NJ, Gary IN, South Central LA,  Harlem Crooklyn, Far Rockaway?</p>
<p>White people are the low hanging fruit&#8230;..with MONEY!</p>
<p>I Demand Racial Equality in the lawsuits&#8230;.. I&#8217;ve been a DJ for 20years and nobody black i know is Legal&#8230;just look at Craigslist and Ebay&#8230;tons of rap hip hop xmix remixes hard drives all black stuff&#8230;..</p>
<p>Fair is Fair!</p>
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Brainerd is located just north of the geographical center of Minnesota, </p>
<p>Demographics<br />
As of the census2 of 2000, there were 13,178 people, 5,623 households, and 3,036 families residing in the city. The population density was 638.4/km² (1,652.8/mi²). There were 5,847 housing units at an average density of 283.3/km² (733.3/mi²). The racial makeup of the city was 95.83% White, 0.71% African American, 1.44% Native American, 0.46% Asian, 0.01% Pacific Islander, 0.26% from other races, and 1.29% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 0.86% of the population. 31.4% were of German, 17.7% Norwegian, 7.1% Swedish, 6.8% Irish and 6.1% United States or American ancestry according to Census 2000.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13543#comment-186154</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 02:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13543#comment-186154</guid>
		<description>"After all, the fact that the hard disc was replaced like that after the defendent received notice..." 

You need to spend the time to actually READ the article and not take it for what you want it to say.

The evidence was not allowed because the lawyers couldn't get their crap together and tried at the very end of their time limit to submit a mountain of nonscence that could have been sumitted weeks before. 

Again, spend some time to READ the articles for what they say and not what you think they say.

This will be the last time I answer this troll. Throughout his continually attempts at trolling, this guy couldn't make a pimp on a real troll. I've seen trolls so good, they leave the place begging for them to come back. It is more than evident that isn't the case here as the trolling skills are sorely lacking and a waste of time to respond to simply for the fact there is no reason behind the attempts other than to be contrary and making the attempt without actually spending the time to make sure his facts are in order before spouting off. In otherwords handing out nonsence and spouting off about feelings is the sum total of it's ability. There is nothing of substance in the posts that make it worth reading or considering an opposing viewpoint. 

In the end it appears to be faith based or contrary based and no facts will ever penetrate the false facade. It's like  arguing with a conspiracy theorist that makes it up as he goes. 

So good by troll, I'll cease to acknowledge your attempted disruptions nor will any longer satisfy your attempts at attention. In otherwords...Don't feed the troll. Ignore it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;After all, the fact that the hard disc was replaced like that after the defendent received notice&#8230;&#8221; </p>
<p>You need to spend the time to actually READ the article and not take it for what you want it to say.</p>
<p>The evidence was not allowed because the lawyers couldn&#8217;t get their crap together and tried at the very end of their time limit to submit a mountain of nonscence that could have been sumitted weeks before. </p>
<p>Again, spend some time to READ the articles for what they say and not what you think they say.</p>
<p>This will be the last time I answer this troll. Throughout his continually attempts at trolling, this guy couldn&#8217;t make a pimp on a real troll. I&#8217;ve seen trolls so good, they leave the place begging for them to come back. It is more than evident that isn&#8217;t the case here as the trolling skills are sorely lacking and a waste of time to respond to simply for the fact there is no reason behind the attempts other than to be contrary and making the attempt without actually spending the time to make sure his facts are in order before spouting off. In otherwords handing out nonsence and spouting off about feelings is the sum total of it&#8217;s ability. There is nothing of substance in the posts that make it worth reading or considering an opposing viewpoint. </p>
<p>In the end it appears to be faith based or contrary based and no facts will ever penetrate the false facade. It&#8217;s like  arguing with a conspiracy theorist that makes it up as he goes. </p>
<p>So good by troll, I&#8217;ll cease to acknowledge your attempted disruptions nor will any longer satisfy your attempts at attention. In otherwords&#8230;Don&#8217;t feed the troll. Ignore it.</p>
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		<title>By: Free Thinker</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13543#comment-186150</link>
		<author>Free Thinker</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 01:49:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13543#comment-186150</guid>
		<description>I am simply excercising my right to express my thoughts on this case, as I see it.

So then, let's see you put up reasoned argument, like mine, instead of calling me a troll. You can't, can you?

Perhaps YOU are the troll, my friend?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am simply excercising my right to express my thoughts on this case, as I see it.</p>
<p>So then, let&#8217;s see you put up reasoned argument, like mine, instead of calling me a troll. You can&#8217;t, can you?</p>
<p>Perhaps YOU are the troll, my friend?</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13543#comment-186148</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 01:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13543#comment-186148</guid>
		<description>Jon, please ban this troll.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon, please ban this troll.</p>
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