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		<title>By: Rafael Venegas</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13597#comment-191002</link>
		<author>Rafael Venegas</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 11:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THE IRONY / WHAT A RIOT

Its ironic, but there is no way that an owner of a place, wether a dental office or a car repair shop can license the performance of songs played on radio or television RATIONALLY:

1. Licenses sold to these places are "blind" (the so called blanket licnse), meaning that the licensee has preactically no idea what songs are in fact licensed.

2. The owners of radios have also no idea IN ADVANCE as to what songs will be broadcast.

3. Even if the radio owner knew in advance what song will be played, it could not check to see if his/her license covered the song so as to turn the radio off when an unlicensed song is being broadcasted.

The above means that the so called blanket licenses are rather useless and cannot solve an alleged problem of music being used for free when radios are heard in public places.

I think some defense lawyers for venues that have been approached or sued by the performance righters have not been smart about this issue, have not used it as a defense and are instead advising their clients to pay for the music, simply because it's cheaper to cave in than to fight. What a riot.</description>
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<p>Its ironic, but there is no way that an owner of a place, wether a dental office or a car repair shop can license the performance of songs played on radio or television RATIONALLY:</p>
<p>1. Licenses sold to these places are &#8220;blind&#8221; (the so called blanket licnse), meaning that the licensee has preactically no idea what songs are in fact licensed.</p>
<p>2. The owners of radios have also no idea IN ADVANCE as to what songs will be broadcast.</p>
<p>3. Even if the radio owner knew in advance what song will be played, it could not check to see if his/her license covered the song so as to turn the radio off when an unlicensed song is being broadcasted.</p>
<p>The above means that the so called blanket licenses are rather useless and cannot solve an alleged problem of music being used for free when radios are heard in public places.</p>
<p>I think some defense lawyers for venues that have been approached or sued by the performance righters have not been smart about this issue, have not used it as a defense and are instead advising their clients to pay for the music, simply because it&#8217;s cheaper to cave in than to fight. What a riot.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnnyg0</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13597#comment-189779</link>
		<author>Johnnyg0</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 12:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13597#comment-189779</guid>
		<description>If they keep it on like that, soon the only music we'll have the right to listen to is live improvised free jazz!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If they keep it on like that, soon the only music we&#8217;ll have the right to listen to is live improvised free jazz!</p>
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		<title>By: The next Copycrime: "making hearable"</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13597#comment-189484</link>
		<author>The next Copycrime: "making hearable"</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 00:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13597#comment-189484</guid>
		<description>The next Copycrime: "making hearable"

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20071008-the-next-copycrime-making-hearable-rings-up-200000-copyright-suit.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The next Copycrime: &#8220;making hearable&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20071008-the-next-copycrime-making-hearable-rings-up-200000-copyright-suit.html" rel="nofollow">http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20071008-the-next-copycrime-making-hearable-rings-up-200000-copyright-suit.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13597#comment-189437</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 22:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13597#comment-189437</guid>
		<description>If some music company patsy came to my home or place of business threatening me, they would likely have a good old fashioned redneck "a$$ whupping" fed to them and then have assault charges pressed against THEM.

Playing music in one's business IS NOT A CRIME - especially when it is free music.  Since the republicans have so long bitched and moaned about big businesses having to face frivilous lawsuits, they should feel the same about big corporations doing the same thing against people.  If big business choose to terrorize people with their high price lawyers, then their executives should be afraid to be in society.  I'm going to laugh when they go after the wrong person and that person goes Virginia Tech on them.  Unfortunately, in our society, well placed violent acts seem to be the quickest way to spur reform.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If some music company patsy came to my home or place of business threatening me, they would likely have a good old fashioned redneck &#8220;a$$ whupping&#8221; fed to them and then have assault charges pressed against THEM.</p>
<p>Playing music in one&#8217;s business IS NOT A CRIME - especially when it is free music.  Since the republicans have so long bitched and moaned about big businesses having to face frivilous lawsuits, they should feel the same about big corporations doing the same thing against people.  If big business choose to terrorize people with their high price lawyers, then their executives should be afraid to be in society.  I&#8217;m going to laugh when they go after the wrong person and that person goes Virginia Tech on them.  Unfortunately, in our society, well placed violent acts seem to be the quickest way to spur reform.</p>
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		<title>By: JPV711</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13597#comment-189217</link>
		<author>JPV711</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 16:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13597#comment-189217</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;(RIAA rep): ....... It's the radio. Why are songs allowed on the radio in the first place? Remove them from the airwaves and everyone'll be happy, right?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This is like entrapment.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What do musicians think of this kind of behaviour? Don't you think they want people to listen to their music and not have a fear of being sued?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7021743.stm&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Many musicians want people to hear their music.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I've always wondered, why do the RIAA never go after the mass producers of copyrighted material who end up selling it on the streets? Do they, and you just don't hear about it? Or are the RIAA afraid that if they do, they might get retaliation from the big, bad "terrorists" who profit from it?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How much of the money the RIAA gets from lawsuits goes to the musicians?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Can you offer proof of this?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I'll take a link on this thread.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Come on, show us you do it for the artists.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(RIAA rep): &#8230;&#8230;. It&#8217;s the radio. Why are songs allowed on the radio in the first place? Remove them from the airwaves and everyone&#8217;ll be happy, right?</p>
<p>This is like entrapment.</p>
<p>What do musicians think of this kind of behaviour? Don&#8217;t you think they want people to listen to their music and not have a fear of being sued?</p>
<p><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7021743.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7021743.stm</a></p>
<p>Many musicians want people to hear their music.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve always wondered, why do the RIAA never go after the mass producers of copyrighted material who end up selling it on the streets? Do they, and you just don&#8217;t hear about it? Or are the RIAA afraid that if they do, they might get retaliation from the big, bad &#8220;terrorists&#8221; who profit from it?</p>
<p>How much of the money the RIAA gets from lawsuits goes to the musicians?</p>
<p>Can you offer proof of this?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll take a link on this thread.</p>
<p>Come on, show us you do it for the artists.</p>
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		<title>By: x</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13597#comment-189210</link>
		<author>x</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 15:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13597#comment-189210</guid>
		<description>WTF! The current situation is beyond insane. Somebody has got to stop these greedy mother fuckers. You know, sometimes I'm driving my car around town, driver window down, I up the volume quite a bit, people outside can listen to my music (don't worry, not rap or gangsta shit), are these ass holes going to lobby to make that a crime as well? Oh dear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WTF! The current situation is beyond insane. Somebody has got to stop these greedy mother fuckers. You know, sometimes I&#8217;m driving my car around town, driver window down, I up the volume quite a bit, people outside can listen to my music (don&#8217;t worry, not rap or gangsta shit), are these ass holes going to lobby to make that a crime as well? Oh dear.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13597#comment-189179</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 14:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13597#comment-189179</guid>
		<description>Unbelievable!  If they keep this up people will turn off music and then the industry will really be in trouble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unbelievable!  If they keep this up people will turn off music and then the industry will really be in trouble.</p>
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