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	<title>Comments on: 2nd iPhone &#8216;bricking&#8217; class action</title>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13620/comment-page-1#comment-217897</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 23:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I tell you not to do something, and that you won&#039;t like what I&#039;m gonna do back, you gonna do it? Maybe. If you do and I do something back and then would you sue me? I&#039;d hope not! I warned you! If someone says that you can&#039;t do something, then maybe there&#039;s a chance that you SHOULDN&#039;T do it, not because you CAN&#039;T, but because you won&#039;t like the outcome. If you are gonna say &quot;I want an iPhone with Verizon&quot; then, suck it up and get a phone from verizon, or suck it up and get the iPhone from AT&amp;T. But if you REALLY want to try to use the iPhone with Verizon, it&#039;s your fault if you screw it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I tell you not to do something, and that you won&#8217;t like what I&#8217;m gonna do back, you gonna do it? Maybe. If you do and I do something back and then would you sue me? I&#8217;d hope not! I warned you! If someone says that you can&#8217;t do something, then maybe there&#8217;s a chance that you SHOULDN&#8217;T do it, not because you CAN&#8217;T, but because you won&#8217;t like the outcome. If you are gonna say &#8220;I want an iPhone with Verizon&#8221; then, suck it up and get a phone from verizon, or suck it up and get the iPhone from AT&amp;T. But if you REALLY want to try to use the iPhone with Verizon, it&#8217;s your fault if you screw it up.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13620/comment-page-1#comment-197723</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 23:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>take away their iPhones, and never let them buy another Apple product. Make them pay Apples legal fees for a frivolous lawsuit and them make all you other whiners work on something more important in life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>take away their iPhones, and never let them buy another Apple product. Make them pay Apples legal fees for a frivolous lawsuit and them make all you other whiners work on something more important in life.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13620/comment-page-1#comment-191112</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 15:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no plans to buy anything at all from Apple. You&#039;re paying for the brand here, nothing else.

I do however see both sides of the debate - I don&#039;t know whether it is legal or not to prevent unlocking, but from a purely ethical point of view, what Apple has done here just seems very wrong. Everything I&#039;ve heard about Itunes activation etc, screams of extracting more revenue from customers, and now they intentionally stop the phone working if it won&#039;t get them their cut from AT&amp;T. Jobs is a greedy asshole.

In the end - whether it breaks contract or not, it&#039;s just a bloody nasty thing for Apple to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no plans to buy anything at all from Apple. You&#8217;re paying for the brand here, nothing else.</p>
<p>I do however see both sides of the debate &#8211; I don&#8217;t know whether it is legal or not to prevent unlocking, but from a purely ethical point of view, what Apple has done here just seems very wrong. Everything I&#8217;ve heard about Itunes activation etc, screams of extracting more revenue from customers, and now they intentionally stop the phone working if it won&#8217;t get them their cut from AT&amp;T. Jobs is a greedy asshole.</p>
<p>In the end &#8211; whether it breaks contract or not, it&#8217;s just a bloody nasty thing for Apple to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Mathieu Clavel</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13620/comment-page-1#comment-190624</link>
		<dc:creator>Mathieu Clavel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 21:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you don&#039;t want a lock Iphone, just don&#039;t buy an Iphone.
I don&#039;t think I will ever buy a crap like that.
Happily, in France, we may not get the Iphone, because Apple got some problem with French laws that oblige it to sell phone without a provider, so for the same price (I think 399€=560$ as in England) you would have a phone lock and a 24 months subscription, or an unlock phone.
So Apple ask more money from Orange, our big provider, and it doesn&#039;t want to pay.
Maybe we will have this crap for Christmas, maybe (I hope) not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you don&#8217;t want a lock Iphone, just don&#8217;t buy an Iphone.<br />
I don&#8217;t think I will ever buy a crap like that.<br />
Happily, in France, we may not get the Iphone, because Apple got some problem with French laws that oblige it to sell phone without a provider, so for the same price (I think 399€=560$ as in England) you would have a phone lock and a 24 months subscription, or an unlock phone.<br />
So Apple ask more money from Orange, our big provider, and it doesn&#8217;t want to pay.<br />
Maybe we will have this crap for Christmas, maybe (I hope) not.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13620/comment-page-1#comment-190531</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 16:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is not acceptable for Apple and AT&amp;T to lock the iPhone nor it is acceptable for any  cell phone company to lock any phone.

Both Apple and AT&amp;T actually Cingular an Evile company that messed up their brand name so bad that they have to dish it.
It seem that they learn nothing from the 4 class action law suit lodged against them.

The fact that they warned people does not change anything. Did they made obvious to people that they were locking the stuff and did they explain the ramifications to their customers? Nooooo! Why not? Because it would have killed their market. That&#039;s why!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is not acceptable for Apple and AT&amp;T to lock the iPhone nor it is acceptable for any  cell phone company to lock any phone.</p>
<p>Both Apple and AT&amp;T actually Cingular an Evile company that messed up their brand name so bad that they have to dish it.<br />
It seem that they learn nothing from the 4 class action law suit lodged against them.</p>
<p>The fact that they warned people does not change anything. Did they made obvious to people that they were locking the stuff and did they explain the ramifications to their customers? Nooooo! Why not? Because it would have killed their market. That&#8217;s why!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13620/comment-page-1#comment-190455</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 13:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An unscientific poll tried to gauge just how many people have unlocked their iphones. Current results suggest that over 40% of owners have already unlocked it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An unscientific poll tried to gauge just how many people have unlocked their iphones. Current results suggest that over 40% of owners have already unlocked it.</p>
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