When you save offline files of websites and disconnect your Internet service the offline files still work. If you rent music and stop paying, the music no longer works.

Problem with rental music is they can take away your favorite song anytime they want.

I guess it is not hard to grasp for RIAA parasites such as David B. but for the rest of us this is unacceptable.

SORRRRRYYYYYYY!

Until they die and hopefully it will be soon.

Thank you for that, graciously accepted.
My own apologies to you for any snark I sent you in return.

AllofMp3 isn’t someones “interpretation” of legal.
In Russia it IS legal.

This is because AllofMp3 PAYS the russian versions of the collection agencys that
are responsible for paying their copyright holders.
They pay their fees.
In Russia they are legal.
100%
Not an interpretation, a fact.
People pay them for non-DRM musci files that won’t dissapear.

It is the perfect model for the US labels.

They don’t want that though.
If the labels create their own site using a similar model they will have to
COMPETE with allofmp3.

The C word.

They have to force allofmp3 ( the competition ) out of business first, so when they
set up their own US versions they can charge the same high prices they do
now, without having to worry about some competitor charging less.

AllofMp3.
pays its fess.
completely legal
In spite of Goebbelesque propoganda techniques used to
convince the masses otherwise.

huh ?

From my post ….

” Consumers .. CUSTOMERS are rejecting the elimination of fair use, by not paying
good money for that which they cannot use as they wish. ”

Reading comprehension ?
The rental model is being rejected because it sucks.
Thats what I said. DRM is useless.

Talk to David B the industry shill and Josh the Sony representative.

They’re the ones that don’t mind paying for music that they are not allowed
to excercise their fair use rights with.

” The same is definately not true of music products. You can buy a CD, and play it in your car, your home or anywhere you want. It also does not have stupid, idiotic DRM that you seem to be so crazy about defending! ”

Never have I defended DRM, ever.
Please quote any of my posts that have defended DRM.
Show me.

” If you really like the rental services, fine. Be a sheeple and buy into it. But don’t think that everyone is going to agree with you on it or reccomend it, ”

Never bought into it.
Please quote a post by me that has ever defended it.

” @Dreddsnik…..You seem to be of the opinion that rental is a good thing! ”

Please show me any post by me that says renting DRM laced music files is a good
thing.

You are definitely talking to the wrong guy.

You can make the argument all you want that you rent and ISP or telephone service, but last time I CHECKED, they COULD NOT BE USED ANY OTHER WAY! So it is a stupid argument…move on!

The same is definately not true of music products. You can buy a CD, and play it in your car, your home or anywhere you want. It also does not have stupid, idiotic DRM that you seem to be so crazy about defending! Also, the music industry since it began has always made it’s music in a tangable way that a consumer can keep and own. It is only with the advent of the net that someone thought of a way to rip off the public with this kind of rental scheme.

If you really like the rental services, fine. Be a sheeple and buy into it. But don’t think that everyone is going to agree with you on it or reccomend it, because I certianly DON’T. Even the majority of people who use those services say they do not want DRM…and also the ones who use those services are only a tiny fraction of free p2p files shared everyday online. So that tells me something right there.

It says that people want choice and they are going to have it. One way or another.

It say people want CHOICE and if they cannot have it legally, then they will get it other ways. If you don’t believe me, look at how free file sharing has exploded and ask yourself one question…..WHY?

There ARE “legal” alternatives now, but it seems even the leader itunes cannot hold a candle to free p2p.

Really ?

The menus .. worked pretty well in the ones that I have personally handled.
The general look of the product ???
funny .. looks almost exactl like an Ipod, or a Creative Zen Vision:M, or
about a dozen other similar items.
oooooh .. ripped off the iPod , THAT’S you’re problem.

I despise Microsoft too, but I don’t let that hate ignore something that MIGHT have been
good.

I’ll leave mindless hate to the rabid Apple fanboi’s.

Gotta love HD-DVD… 30 gigs of storage? that can fit a standard movie, yes- but not if you want FullHD, Loseless audio, and… a movie longer then an hour and a half.

Its honestly amazing Bill has enough money to buy a pack of gum anymore.

80 gigs of storage aint bad, but still… no.
Personally, i hate microsoft. Everything about them…

their attitude, their OS, their console, their portable PC, their MP3 player, and of coarse- the fact that they seem to rip off everyone with everything they do nowadays. Anybody notice that Windows 10 is coming out in 2010? have fun with vista for 2 years.

Vista is a complete ripoff of OSX – Widgets anyone?
Their Console is a ripoff of a dead clock – Freezing anyone?
Their Oragami is a pathetic attempt at taking over the blackberry
the Zune is – in every way – a ripoff of the ipod.

I hate microsoft…

Not THAT terrible.
If Microsoft eliminated the DRM restrictions on the Zune,
( most notably, the 3 days 3 plays on wirelessly tranferred tunes ),
It COULD have been a Ipod Killer.

The fact that the Zune adds DRM when tranferring, even if it was your own
home recording is what really makes the Zune crap.

Is ‘Fair Use’ such an onerous concept ?

Once I pay for a CD, Fair Use specicies that I should be able to use it any way I wish
for my own personal use.
Once I pay for a Music download, Fair use specifies that I should be able to use it as I
will for my own personal use.

The labels try to dodge fair use with their ‘user agreement’ attempting to bypass the
BUYERS right to fair use.

Consumers .. CUSTOMERS are rejecting the elimination of fair use, by not paying
good money for that which they cannot use as they wish.

People WILL pay a fair price, even when free options exist.
AllOfMP3 is proof of that.

If the labels would use a DRM free, resonably priced model like THAT, well,
they might not have much reason to complain.

They’re just not that smart, I guess.

Duuuh

Zune was terrible…

As far as these parasites of the four big (but shrinking fast) majors they must be smoking somthing because they are desilisional with business plan such as these. Better to enter the business of the perpetual motin machine!