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		<title>By: Aimee Mason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aimee Mason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 21:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How Dare You Cant put Them In Cages Set Them Free Write Back Soon From Aimee Mason</description>
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		<title>By: someone who won't be adopting from a shelter now</title>
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		<dc:creator>someone who won't be adopting from a shelter now</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 08:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was thinking, would it be too much to ask for a mental illness check from the PEOPLE in adoption agencies? Pet owners are entitled to know they are dealing with a bunch of crazy wackos!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was thinking, would it be too much to ask for a mental illness check from the PEOPLE in adoption agencies? Pet owners are entitled to know they are dealing with a bunch of crazy wackos!</p>
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		<title>By: someone who won't be adopting from a shelter now</title>
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		<dc:creator>someone who won't be adopting from a shelter now</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 08:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Batkis is a weird person who seems to have some kind of mental illness. She is hysterical and overcontrolling by turns. Her emails on this subject are rude and unreasonable. I&#039;d never adopt from her agency.

However, I also think adoption agencies in general need to trust the people they adopt their dogs to. If they cannot, then they can keep all the rescue dogs for themselves. I will get a dog from a person who is willing to relinquish the ownership of a dog. I hope rescue organizations listen, but I guess people will have to stop adopting from them in order to change this situation. I found a rescue dog last week, and was shocked that the owner, a very conscientious older man who had owned the dog several years, was worried that I had contacted the agency. Apparently, if the dog was ever lost, he&#039;d lose ownership of it. No one wants to lose a dog. But the world isn&#039;t a perfect place, sometimes families change, dogs get lost, ect. If rescue organizations can&#039;t trust conscientious owners, then we&#039;ll have to stop adopting from them!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Batkis is a weird person who seems to have some kind of mental illness. She is hysterical and overcontrolling by turns. Her emails on this subject are rude and unreasonable. I&#8217;d never adopt from her agency.</p>
<p>However, I also think adoption agencies in general need to trust the people they adopt their dogs to. If they cannot, then they can keep all the rescue dogs for themselves. I will get a dog from a person who is willing to relinquish the ownership of a dog. I hope rescue organizations listen, but I guess people will have to stop adopting from them in order to change this situation. I found a rescue dog last week, and was shocked that the owner, a very conscientious older man who had owned the dog several years, was worried that I had contacted the agency. Apparently, if the dog was ever lost, he&#8217;d lose ownership of it. No one wants to lose a dog. But the world isn&#8217;t a perfect place, sometimes families change, dogs get lost, ect. If rescue organizations can&#8217;t trust conscientious owners, then we&#8217;ll have to stop adopting from them!</p>
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		<title>By: P.O.'d Pet Parent</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13693/comment-page-1#comment-198566</link>
		<dc:creator>P.O.'d Pet Parent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 05:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Batkis is so poor she paid over 600k for her home in Alta Dena.  She runs a 501 c (3) type corp without a license, which means when she tells you the adoption fee is tax deductable like it says in her &quot;contract&quot; it is a bold faced lie.  There may be some good rescues out there, but there are plenty of nutballs too.  Some of these folk that run rescues, and the fosters that work for them are no more than animal hoarders, animal abusers or profiteers.  We were the 5th home (she was 5 months old when we got her and kept her) that one of our two kitties was placed in before we got her because a now deservedly bankrupt high profile rescue did such a bang up job of evaluating/placing/bouncing her around.  The first adopter/buyer moved to Belgium right after the adoption and didn&#039;t want to pay for quarantine, then a foster, a second adopter/buyer (claimed sudden allergy to cats), and finally an absolutely psychotic, abusive foster&#039;s home before she came to us. The rescue had to threaten the psycho foster with a lawsuit when she wanted to give it to her neighbor who was planning on selling it (she&#039;s a gorgeous, playful, sweet tempered balinese/ragdoll mix which cat fanciers will tell you = big $$$$ even though she&#039;s not a purebred) after we&#039;d been chosen as the adopters rather than honor her agreement with the rescue.  The foster, whom the rescue refused to work with anymore after the incident kept calling me to see if I wanted to give back the cat.  

Animals remember more than we give them credit for remembering.  The bounced around now 4year old &quot;rescue&quot; kitty is very submissive and timid around other animals since the fosters&#039; two combative cats beat her up all the time.  It took her most of a year to adjust to this being her home and figure out that she wouldn&#039;t be kicked to the curb again and that our other cat wasn&#039;t trying to hurt her when he licked her face.  Our 15 year old kitty adopted from the county shelter at 8 weeks has never had any of the obvious abandonment issues the four year old has.  Cats form colonies and dogs form packs.  If Batkis is such an &quot;expert&quot; she should know that pack animals like dogs require stability in their companions, be they other dogs or people.   She can&#039;t justify stealing the dog from a pack that has accepted him and that he has accepted when it&#039;s a good home even though there are minors under &quot;gasp&quot; the age of 14.  Iggy should never have been placed with Portia and Ellen, but since Mutts and Moms didn&#039;t do the job they claim to be experts at, he was.  Ellen spends thousands to try and train a dog that should never have been placed in her and Portia&#039;s home and does the right thing when training fails and finds a better home for Iggy than the dog placing geniuses at Mutts and Moms could and the incompetant control freak bullies a cop and an animal control officer into become accessories to a dog theft which is either petty theft or grand larceny (if the judge finds that the dog is worth more than $400.)

Many of these rescue adoptions/sales contracts have provisions in them that a judge would laugh at and violate the consumer&#039;s rights.   As much as we love our animals, as far as the state is concerned, they are property.  There are no laws governing &quot;adoptions&quot; because technically you buy an animal no matter what you call it or sign whatever crazy illegal agreement the people that rescued the cutest of the cute animals in the kill shelter make you sign before you make it part of your family.  If it&#039;s come to this, a wacko stealing a dog she sold back, then the courts and government need to step in and regulate the rescue business.  Rescue&#039;s need to let go once they&#039;ve done their job (which Mutts and Moms neglected to do according to their own guidelines when they adopted Iggy to DeRossi) and move onto the next animal needing a home and let the new owners care for or if needed find a better fit for the animal they purchase.  It&#039;s fine if the rescue offers to take the animal back if it doesn&#039;t work out, but to repossess another&#039;s property that&#039;s been bought and paid for is theft.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Batkis is so poor she paid over 600k for her home in Alta Dena.  She runs a 501 c (3) type corp without a license, which means when she tells you the adoption fee is tax deductable like it says in her &#8220;contract&#8221; it is a bold faced lie.  There may be some good rescues out there, but there are plenty of nutballs too.  Some of these folk that run rescues, and the fosters that work for them are no more than animal hoarders, animal abusers or profiteers.  We were the 5th home (she was 5 months old when we got her and kept her) that one of our two kitties was placed in before we got her because a now deservedly bankrupt high profile rescue did such a bang up job of evaluating/placing/bouncing her around.  The first adopter/buyer moved to Belgium right after the adoption and didn&#8217;t want to pay for quarantine, then a foster, a second adopter/buyer (claimed sudden allergy to cats), and finally an absolutely psychotic, abusive foster&#8217;s home before she came to us. The rescue had to threaten the psycho foster with a lawsuit when she wanted to give it to her neighbor who was planning on selling it (she&#8217;s a gorgeous, playful, sweet tempered balinese/ragdoll mix which cat fanciers will tell you = big $$$$ even though she&#8217;s not a purebred) after we&#8217;d been chosen as the adopters rather than honor her agreement with the rescue.  The foster, whom the rescue refused to work with anymore after the incident kept calling me to see if I wanted to give back the cat.  </p>
<p>Animals remember more than we give them credit for remembering.  The bounced around now 4year old &#8220;rescue&#8221; kitty is very submissive and timid around other animals since the fosters&#8217; two combative cats beat her up all the time.  It took her most of a year to adjust to this being her home and figure out that she wouldn&#8217;t be kicked to the curb again and that our other cat wasn&#8217;t trying to hurt her when he licked her face.  Our 15 year old kitty adopted from the county shelter at 8 weeks has never had any of the obvious abandonment issues the four year old has.  Cats form colonies and dogs form packs.  If Batkis is such an &#8220;expert&#8221; she should know that pack animals like dogs require stability in their companions, be they other dogs or people.   She can&#8217;t justify stealing the dog from a pack that has accepted him and that he has accepted when it&#8217;s a good home even though there are minors under &#8220;gasp&#8221; the age of 14.  Iggy should never have been placed with Portia and Ellen, but since Mutts and Moms didn&#8217;t do the job they claim to be experts at, he was.  Ellen spends thousands to try and train a dog that should never have been placed in her and Portia&#8217;s home and does the right thing when training fails and finds a better home for Iggy than the dog placing geniuses at Mutts and Moms could and the incompetant control freak bullies a cop and an animal control officer into become accessories to a dog theft which is either petty theft or grand larceny (if the judge finds that the dog is worth more than $400.)</p>
<p>Many of these rescue adoptions/sales contracts have provisions in them that a judge would laugh at and violate the consumer&#8217;s rights.   As much as we love our animals, as far as the state is concerned, they are property.  There are no laws governing &#8220;adoptions&#8221; because technically you buy an animal no matter what you call it or sign whatever crazy illegal agreement the people that rescued the cutest of the cute animals in the kill shelter make you sign before you make it part of your family.  If it&#8217;s come to this, a wacko stealing a dog she sold back, then the courts and government need to step in and regulate the rescue business.  Rescue&#8217;s need to let go once they&#8217;ve done their job (which Mutts and Moms neglected to do according to their own guidelines when they adopted Iggy to DeRossi) and move onto the next animal needing a home and let the new owners care for or if needed find a better fit for the animal they purchase.  It&#8217;s fine if the rescue offers to take the animal back if it doesn&#8217;t work out, but to repossess another&#8217;s property that&#8217;s been bought and paid for is theft.</p>
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		<title>By: melanie</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13693/comment-page-1#comment-198205</link>
		<dc:creator>melanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 15:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;ve just found out that m&amp;m&#039;s license to operate was suspended in December of 06 because they refuse to make a list of who works for the organization.(sounds fishy to me, sounds like she&#039;s hiding something) that makes ellens contract with them null and void!!!! what that woman did to that family really is criminal she literally stole the dog!!!! she didn&#039;t have a license to operate, the dog didn&#039;t belong to her it was ellens dog and she had all the right  give it to a good home!!!! its obvious to me that baktis woman is only in the pet buisness to make a profit and exploit good rescue orginizations. Ms. baktis had on gucci eye glasses, drove a luxery mini-van and has a designer purse, yet she went on and on about how poor she is, yeah maybe now that her scam has come to light</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;ve just found out that m&amp;m&#8217;s license to operate was suspended in December of 06 because they refuse to make a list of who works for the organization.(sounds fishy to me, sounds like she&#8217;s hiding something) that makes ellens contract with them null and void!!!! what that woman did to that family really is criminal she literally stole the dog!!!! she didn&#8217;t have a license to operate, the dog didn&#8217;t belong to her it was ellens dog and she had all the right  give it to a good home!!!! its obvious to me that baktis woman is only in the pet buisness to make a profit and exploit good rescue orginizations. Ms. baktis had on gucci eye glasses, drove a luxery mini-van and has a designer purse, yet she went on and on about how poor she is, yeah maybe now that her scam has come to light</p>
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		<title>By: SAD SITUATION</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13693/comment-page-1#comment-196383</link>
		<dc:creator>SAD SITUATION</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 21:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I looked for a new pet at an adoption agency, and also reading about Mom&#039;s and Mutt&#039;s procedures, you fill out the application with a &quot;certain&quot; named animal in mind (then the process starts) taking about one month to process.  I&#039;m wondering how Mom&#039;s and Mutts found a home in (one) day after taking Iggy from the young girls.   Something is wrong with this picture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I looked for a new pet at an adoption agency, and also reading about Mom&#8217;s and Mutt&#8217;s procedures, you fill out the application with a &#8220;certain&#8221; named animal in mind (then the process starts) taking about one month to process.  I&#8217;m wondering how Mom&#8217;s and Mutts found a home in (one) day after taking Iggy from the young girls.   Something is wrong with this picture.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13693/comment-page-1#comment-196290</link>
		<dc:creator>Jill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 17:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also wanted to make it clear that I think anyone who made any threats to this woman Marina, her family or her buisness are more guilty than Marina herself. If you want to send a message to her for her actions do so by not using her buisness, but personal attacks or threats are unacceptable!!

Perhaps ou were trying to do the right thing, but you may have went about it the wrong way. JIll
I hope everyone can work it out and it is not just a ploy for a huge lawsuit. Jill</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also wanted to make it clear that I think anyone who made any threats to this woman Marina, her family or her buisness are more guilty than Marina herself. If you want to send a message to her for her actions do so by not using her buisness, but personal attacks or threats are unacceptable!!</p>
<p>Perhaps ou were trying to do the right thing, but you may have went about it the wrong way. JIll<br />
I hope everyone can work it out and it is not just a ploy for a huge lawsuit. Jill</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13693/comment-page-1#comment-196287</link>
		<dc:creator>Jill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 17:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marina Batkis, I think it is a good idea to stay home for a few days and think about your decision and the impact it may have on your buisness. Obviously the community, and nation as a whole is outraged for a reason. Clearly the dog was in a stable home and environment, and a simple check of the home would have shown yo and your company that. The bacl lash you are getting has nothing to do with Ellen, it is about comon sense. I personally would not buy as dog from you in the future and would support others if the chose not to deal with a company who choses not t negotiate for the benefit of the dog. Now you have brought in yet another family to become entangled in this web. Good grief, aren&#039;t there bigger fish to fry. I personally hope Ellen stands up to the heat. She did the right thing to find a good home for the dog, and unless you can prove the family is unfit, expect to have backlash. This won&#039;t go away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marina Batkis, I think it is a good idea to stay home for a few days and think about your decision and the impact it may have on your buisness. Obviously the community, and nation as a whole is outraged for a reason. Clearly the dog was in a stable home and environment, and a simple check of the home would have shown yo and your company that. The bacl lash you are getting has nothing to do with Ellen, it is about comon sense. I personally would not buy as dog from you in the future and would support others if the chose not to deal with a company who choses not t negotiate for the benefit of the dog. Now you have brought in yet another family to become entangled in this web. Good grief, aren&#8217;t there bigger fish to fry. I personally hope Ellen stands up to the heat. She did the right thing to find a good home for the dog, and unless you can prove the family is unfit, expect to have backlash. This won&#8217;t go away.</p>
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		<title>By: Cathy</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13693/comment-page-1#comment-195953</link>
		<dc:creator>Cathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 02:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All my dogs have come from the SPCA. Like all shelters, when you adopt, you sign an agreement that if for ANY reason you are unable to keep the dog, you MUST return it to the shelter. It is plain and simple. I like Ellen, her show is great and she is a very funny woman, but I&#039;m sure she signed that agreement just like everyone else, and shouldn&#039;t use her TV show to cry because she had to follow the rules like everyone else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All my dogs have come from the SPCA. Like all shelters, when you adopt, you sign an agreement that if for ANY reason you are unable to keep the dog, you MUST return it to the shelter. It is plain and simple. I like Ellen, her show is great and she is a very funny woman, but I&#8217;m sure she signed that agreement just like everyone else, and shouldn&#8217;t use her TV show to cry because she had to follow the rules like everyone else.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13693/comment-page-1#comment-195792</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 20:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If would be neat if the new owners of Iggy go on Ellen&#039;s show and return it to the hairdresser&#039;s family.
It would very cool if the Mutts and Moms folks apoligized and said they acted irrationally.
This brings custady battles to a new level.

Ellen can go to the pound and find a puppy that will grow up with the cats and they can all be one happy and gay family.
(That&#039;s a joke - ok)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If would be neat if the new owners of Iggy go on Ellen&#8217;s show and return it to the hairdresser&#8217;s family.<br />
It would very cool if the Mutts and Moms folks apoligized and said they acted irrationally.<br />
This brings custady battles to a new level.</p>
<p>Ellen can go to the pound and find a puppy that will grow up with the cats and they can all be one happy and gay family.<br />
(That&#8217;s a joke &#8211; ok)</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13693/comment-page-1#comment-195680</link>
		<dc:creator>Lauren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 14:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is clearly an example of shameful anal policy. Mutts &amp; Moms crossed a line and hopefully have put themselves out of business, while unfortunately causing a huge setback for legitimately caring rescue organizations. Agreed, Ellen did not follow policy or did not read the contract. It stinks, it happens. This entire debacle could have been avoided by a simple inspection of the new home and assessment of the new adoptees. The 14 year old child rule is pathetic and ridiculous. These little girls were obviously appropriate and loving family members to this dog. That they are refusing even the most expensive and pedigreed dogs (and the no expense spared delivery to their door) is assurance enough that they formed attachment and bonds with Iggy. The new adoption family should give the dog back to the little girls and Mutts &amp; Moms deserve every bit of bad press, personal attack, and trouble that they brought on themselves. Shameful is right!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is clearly an example of shameful anal policy. Mutts &amp; Moms crossed a line and hopefully have put themselves out of business, while unfortunately causing a huge setback for legitimately caring rescue organizations. Agreed, Ellen did not follow policy or did not read the contract. It stinks, it happens. This entire debacle could have been avoided by a simple inspection of the new home and assessment of the new adoptees. The 14 year old child rule is pathetic and ridiculous. These little girls were obviously appropriate and loving family members to this dog. That they are refusing even the most expensive and pedigreed dogs (and the no expense spared delivery to their door) is assurance enough that they formed attachment and bonds with Iggy. The new adoption family should give the dog back to the little girls and Mutts &amp; Moms deserve every bit of bad press, personal attack, and trouble that they brought on themselves. Shameful is right!</p>
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		<title>By: Dog lover too</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13693/comment-page-1#comment-195321</link>
		<dc:creator>Dog lover too</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 00:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK Ellen blew it. So. Worst case, check out the people she gave the dog to and determine if they would qualify. Anything else is bad dealings on Mutt&#039;s &amp; Puke&#039;s part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK Ellen blew it. So. Worst case, check out the people she gave the dog to and determine if they would qualify. Anything else is bad dealings on Mutt&#8217;s &amp; Puke&#8217;s part.</p>
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		<title>By: Dinora</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13693/comment-page-1#comment-195243</link>
		<dc:creator>Dinora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 21:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure Mutts and Moms would not get my financial help, ever, love animals too and should be exeptions to the rules, the dog was in a loving home, does not take brains to find out that. this woman is a control freek probably envy Ellen succes, is obvious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure Mutts and Moms would not get my financial help, ever, love animals too and should be exeptions to the rules, the dog was in a loving home, does not take brains to find out that. this woman is a control freek probably envy Ellen succes, is obvious.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13693/comment-page-1#comment-195176</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 18:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1.	I’m sure if Ellen gave away the dog to a “not-so-good” owner – that would be splattered all over the news.  I know she made an excellent choice.
2.	You’re not dealing with poor people here – the dog would have an excellent home.
3.	It’s not as if she gave the dog away to someone who doesn’t have the smarts to take care of a dog.
4.	The lady who adopted the dog should rightfully give the dog back to the Hair Dresser and the children.
5.	I’m glad that the company is getting poor press – they deserve it.
6.	Policy or not – I wonder how many animals would have to go back to that place because I’m sure there are thousands of people who’ve done the same dang thing.
7.	Why did the hair-dresser even turn over the dog anyway – I wouldn’t have opened my door at all!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1.	I’m sure if Ellen gave away the dog to a “not-so-good” owner – that would be splattered all over the news.  I know she made an excellent choice.<br />
2.	You’re not dealing with poor people here – the dog would have an excellent home.<br />
3.	It’s not as if she gave the dog away to someone who doesn’t have the smarts to take care of a dog.<br />
4.	The lady who adopted the dog should rightfully give the dog back to the Hair Dresser and the children.<br />
5.	I’m glad that the company is getting poor press – they deserve it.<br />
6.	Policy or not – I wonder how many animals would have to go back to that place because I’m sure there are thousands of people who’ve done the same dang thing.<br />
7.	Why did the hair-dresser even turn over the dog anyway – I wouldn’t have opened my door at all!</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13693/comment-page-1#comment-195054</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 11:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s really a shame the the rescue group didn&#039;t take the opportunity to return the dog &amp; get a lot of GOOD publicity about the need for more loving families to adopt rescue animals. They have forgotten in their anger about the many still homeless animals. They now pretty much have mud on their face. Instead of GOOD publicity they have gotten a lot of BAD publicity. What have they gained??? A whole bunch of steps backward!!! Now peopole won&#039;t want to adopt from a rescue group because of this. Mutts &amp; Moms...you should be ashamed at the damage that you have done to the rescue effort!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s really a shame the the rescue group didn&#8217;t take the opportunity to return the dog &amp; get a lot of GOOD publicity about the need for more loving families to adopt rescue animals. They have forgotten in their anger about the many still homeless animals. They now pretty much have mud on their face. Instead of GOOD publicity they have gotten a lot of BAD publicity. What have they gained??? A whole bunch of steps backward!!! Now peopole won&#8217;t want to adopt from a rescue group because of this. Mutts &amp; Moms&#8230;you should be ashamed at the damage that you have done to the rescue effort!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13693/comment-page-1#comment-195039</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 10:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel the pet needs to be returned to the family. She did the right thing giving it to a family that could take care of it. I to have cats and dogs that do not get along and its stressful. Iggy was probably in doggy heaven having to young girls to play with. Please return Iggy to the family.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel the pet needs to be returned to the family. She did the right thing giving it to a family that could take care of it. I to have cats and dogs that do not get along and its stressful. Iggy was probably in doggy heaven having to young girls to play with. Please return Iggy to the family.</p>
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		<title>By: Voice of Reason</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13693/comment-page-1#comment-194879</link>
		<dc:creator>Voice of Reason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 01:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is sadly the case with all well-meaning &quot;adoption&quot; agencies. In an effort to find a &quot;suitable&quot; home for anyone (animal OR human) up for adoption, they often jump to conclusions without looking into the matter further. And then they wonder why people are so hesitant to adopt!?! The RIGHT thing to do in this case would simply have been to chastise Degeneres, but then look at the family she gave the dog to. To say that a family is &quot;unsuitable&quot; simply because it has two children below drinking age is downright ridiculous!!! The kids were obviously heartbroken when the dog was taken, so they were attached to the animal. And the STUPID &quot;rescuers&quot; did not even CARE about the two children they were emotionally scarring for LIFE. And there are actually people out there who think Mutts and Moms did the RIGHT thing? I weep for this country!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is sadly the case with all well-meaning &#8220;adoption&#8221; agencies. In an effort to find a &#8220;suitable&#8221; home for anyone (animal OR human) up for adoption, they often jump to conclusions without looking into the matter further. And then they wonder why people are so hesitant to adopt!?! The RIGHT thing to do in this case would simply have been to chastise Degeneres, but then look at the family she gave the dog to. To say that a family is &#8220;unsuitable&#8221; simply because it has two children below drinking age is downright ridiculous!!! The kids were obviously heartbroken when the dog was taken, so they were attached to the animal. And the STUPID &#8220;rescuers&#8221; did not even CARE about the two children they were emotionally scarring for LIFE. And there are actually people out there who think Mutts and Moms did the RIGHT thing? I weep for this country!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: grantl</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13693/comment-page-1#comment-194815</link>
		<dc:creator>grantl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mutts and Moms owners, Marina Batkis and Vanessa Chekroun, declared they will not be &quot;bullied&quot; by somone just because the are a celebrity. Funny, they had NO PROBLEM bullying two little girls and removing their pet. They are two self-rightous control freaks who would be better suited in another line of work...something that suits their personalities...something along the lines of prison guards, maybe. I have no pity on them, or their organization. You reap what you sow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mutts and Moms owners, Marina Batkis and Vanessa Chekroun, declared they will not be &#8220;bullied&#8221; by somone just because the are a celebrity. Funny, they had NO PROBLEM bullying two little girls and removing their pet. They are two self-rightous control freaks who would be better suited in another line of work&#8230;something that suits their personalities&#8230;something along the lines of prison guards, maybe. I have no pity on them, or their organization. You reap what you sow.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13693/comment-page-1#comment-194776</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 21:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find that I absolutely must speak out on behalf of Marina Baktis from Mutts and Moms in Pasadena given the shaft she is presently getting from the press as a result of Ellen Degeneres&#039; &quot;Faux Paw&quot;.

I am disgusted by the hate mail and posts I am reading everywhere that are attacking this woman, Marina Baktis of Mutts &amp; Moms.org, for doing the right and responsible thing.
Marina Baktis is not cruel nor heartless, but instead one of the most responsible dog adoption agency owners I have ever dealt with. And, I have dealt with many- including shelters, humane societies and other dog adoption agencies.

At Mutts and Moms.org they care so much about the placement of the dogs, and are so concerned about people who may simply &#039;give the dog away to god knows who&#039; if they can&#039;t deal with it, that they make it very clear in their contract that the dog MUST be returned to them so they can be assured of placing it in the &quot;right&quot; great home. Ms. Baktis is extra stringent in finding the best homes for dogs because she loves them so very much.

Do you know how many people treat adopted dogs like crap??
Or fail to consider things in the environment that may be wrong for the dog like other pets or ruthless kids or the neighborhood or the hours kept by the owners, etc.?
Do you know how many people just give them away to others who say they can care for the dog, but really can&#039;t?
Why do you think we have so many dogs in shelters!?

Portia de Rossi clearly signed the contract -and no doubt had lengthy discussions with Marina, who, I know, from personal experience, makes it very clear that Mutts and Moms takes it upon themselves to be responsible for the dog&#039;s happiness if the adopter cannot keep the dog for whatever reason. And that&#039;s no easy feat. Marina puts the dog&#039;s needs FIRST over crying kids and weepy talk show hosts.

Marina Baktis didn&#039;t interview this &#039;hairdresser&#039; or go see the home or the other dog that lives there to make sure Iggy would be safe and happy...therefore she cannot -in good conscience leave the dog there. Don&#039;t people understand that?

Sure, I love Ellen like the rest of America, but she&#039;s not trained to recognize the best home for a dog! She couldn&#039;t even keep Iggy herself! That says something right there.
Why didn&#039;t she (or Portia) just tell Marina that she may have found an appropriate family for the dog and let Mutts and Moms interview the family themselves?

I personally adopted my fabulous dog from Marina Baktis last May and I was so impressed by her deep concern and need to know all details before releasing the dog to me. She continued to e-mail me and stay in touch after the adoption to make sure Indie was (and is) happy.

Unfortunately, a few tears from Ellen and pics of sad kids&#039; faces have turned the public against one of the kindest, most giving and responsible dog lovers in this country. After all, Marina devotes her life to finding homes for dogs. And good homes at that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find that I absolutely must speak out on behalf of Marina Baktis from Mutts and Moms in Pasadena given the shaft she is presently getting from the press as a result of Ellen Degeneres&#8217; &#8220;Faux Paw&#8221;.</p>
<p>I am disgusted by the hate mail and posts I am reading everywhere that are attacking this woman, Marina Baktis of Mutts &amp; Moms.org, for doing the right and responsible thing.<br />
Marina Baktis is not cruel nor heartless, but instead one of the most responsible dog adoption agency owners I have ever dealt with. And, I have dealt with many- including shelters, humane societies and other dog adoption agencies.</p>
<p>At Mutts and Moms.org they care so much about the placement of the dogs, and are so concerned about people who may simply &#8216;give the dog away to god knows who&#8217; if they can&#8217;t deal with it, that they make it very clear in their contract that the dog MUST be returned to them so they can be assured of placing it in the &#8220;right&#8221; great home. Ms. Baktis is extra stringent in finding the best homes for dogs because she loves them so very much.</p>
<p>Do you know how many people treat adopted dogs like crap??<br />
Or fail to consider things in the environment that may be wrong for the dog like other pets or ruthless kids or the neighborhood or the hours kept by the owners, etc.?<br />
Do you know how many people just give them away to others who say they can care for the dog, but really can&#8217;t?<br />
Why do you think we have so many dogs in shelters!?</p>
<p>Portia de Rossi clearly signed the contract -and no doubt had lengthy discussions with Marina, who, I know, from personal experience, makes it very clear that Mutts and Moms takes it upon themselves to be responsible for the dog&#8217;s happiness if the adopter cannot keep the dog for whatever reason. And that&#8217;s no easy feat. Marina puts the dog&#8217;s needs FIRST over crying kids and weepy talk show hosts.</p>
<p>Marina Baktis didn&#8217;t interview this &#8216;hairdresser&#8217; or go see the home or the other dog that lives there to make sure Iggy would be safe and happy&#8230;therefore she cannot -in good conscience leave the dog there. Don&#8217;t people understand that?</p>
<p>Sure, I love Ellen like the rest of America, but she&#8217;s not trained to recognize the best home for a dog! She couldn&#8217;t even keep Iggy herself! That says something right there.<br />
Why didn&#8217;t she (or Portia) just tell Marina that she may have found an appropriate family for the dog and let Mutts and Moms interview the family themselves?</p>
<p>I personally adopted my fabulous dog from Marina Baktis last May and I was so impressed by her deep concern and need to know all details before releasing the dog to me. She continued to e-mail me and stay in touch after the adoption to make sure Indie was (and is) happy.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, a few tears from Ellen and pics of sad kids&#8217; faces have turned the public against one of the kindest, most giving and responsible dog lovers in this country. After all, Marina devotes her life to finding homes for dogs. And good homes at that!</p>
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		<title>By: Another John in Texas</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13693/comment-page-1#comment-194677</link>
		<dc:creator>Another John in Texas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 18:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The actions of an inconsiderate and over-reaching control freak is what this boils down to.

Yes, Ellen broke the contract, and yes there are good reasons for the terms in that contract, but in this case what interest (aside from ego) was served by being so heavy handed? Not that of the family in question, and certainly not that of the adoption agency, who must have their hands full finding suitable homes. What would it have cost them to act like decent human beings and have a look at the family as a potential home?
Nothing. Instead, their heavy-handed, repo-man tactics have resulted in a storm of bad publicity and probably set back the effectiveness of their operation, and oh yeah, broken the heart of a little girl. Nice work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The actions of an inconsiderate and over-reaching control freak is what this boils down to.</p>
<p>Yes, Ellen broke the contract, and yes there are good reasons for the terms in that contract, but in this case what interest (aside from ego) was served by being so heavy handed? Not that of the family in question, and certainly not that of the adoption agency, who must have their hands full finding suitable homes. What would it have cost them to act like decent human beings and have a look at the family as a potential home?<br />
Nothing. Instead, their heavy-handed, repo-man tactics have resulted in a storm of bad publicity and probably set back the effectiveness of their operation, and oh yeah, broken the heart of a little girl. Nice work.</p>
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