Comments on: Help scupper the RIAA http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13723 p2pnet.net - reader powered Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:08:56 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: JD2 http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13723/comment-page-1#comment-197508 JD2 Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:28:31 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13723#comment-197508 Ask them to list all the "spoof" files that mediasentry and other factions use to upload to the different sites and then ask them to play each and every file that was said to be downloaded for the courts to show that they are actual complete songs and that they are not "spoofs" Have them show and play the songs on thier computer, and to show the time downloaded to prove that they are actual songs... anyone can take a snapshot of a hard drive with 1700 songs in it and then say that it came from a computer of choice - there are people who could spoof an IP address, take a snapshot of the computer and say it was mine or yours. Also with the connection that many people have (DSL & Broadband) and the capped upload speed I cannot see how mediasentry or anyone for that matter could download 1700 songs in any amount of time from one particular person. I would make them prove that even mediasentry DOWNLOADED ALL THE SONGS, not simply take a snapshot of the drive. Because that could mean someone's folder was mistakenly shared but the error was caught before anything was downloaded and if so copyright infringement did not take place. Ask them to list all the “spoof” files that mediasentry and other factions use to upload to the different sites and then ask them to play each and every file that was said to be downloaded for the courts to show that they are actual complete songs and that they are not “spoofs” Have them show and play the songs on thier computer, and to show the time downloaded to prove that they are actual songs… anyone can take a snapshot of a hard drive with 1700 songs in it and then say that it came from a computer of choice – there are people who could spoof an IP address, take a snapshot of the computer and say it was mine or yours. Also with the connection that many people have (DSL & Broadband) and the capped upload speed I cannot see how mediasentry or anyone for that matter could download 1700 songs in any amount of time from one particular person. I would make them prove that even mediasentry DOWNLOADED ALL THE SONGS, not simply take a snapshot of the drive. Because that could mean someone’s folder was mistakenly shared but the error was caught before anything was downloaded and if so copyright infringement did not take place.

]]> By: David http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13723/comment-page-1#comment-197091 David Mon, 22 Oct 2007 22:37:39 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13723#comment-197091 What you need is a complete, verified, unquestioned disc image copy of the MediaSentry/SafeNet computer at the moment that it was used to gather "evidence" of infringement in the case at hand. Without that, the true veracity of their evidence collection methods will always be in question. Of course, MS/SF will be unable to provide that, and will reply "trust us", or something similarly useless. You also need to question the exact person who gathered the evidence to determine which laws he broke in the process, and any shortcuts he may have taken. You also need to know what IP addresses he may have used, if they legally belonged to him at the time, and any other frauds he might have perpetrated to try and subvert defensive measures he expected to encounter -- even of you client never employed any of those defensive methods themselves. What you need is a complete, verified, unquestioned disc image copy of the MediaSentry/SafeNet computer at the moment that it was used to gather “evidence” of infringement in the case at hand. Without that, the true veracity of their evidence collection methods will always be in question.

Of course, MS/SF will be unable to provide that, and will reply “trust us”, or something similarly useless.

You also need to question the exact person who gathered the evidence to determine which laws he broke in the process, and any shortcuts he may have taken. You also need to know what IP addresses he may have used, if they legally belonged to him at the time, and any other frauds he might have perpetrated to try and subvert defensive measures he expected to encounter — even of you client never employed any of those defensive methods themselves.

]]> By: Reader's Write http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13723/comment-page-1#comment-197032 Reader's Write Mon, 22 Oct 2007 21:07:58 +0000 http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13723#comment-197032 Ask them for the truth, that will hurt them. Ask them for the truth, that will hurt them.

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