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	<title>Comments on: OiNK bust on video</title>
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		<title>By: rosavicious</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13754#comment-199669</link>
		<author>rosavicious</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2007 02:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13754#comment-199669</guid>
		<description>one word....napster... anyone remember that one? this bust certainly has not slowed my music acquisitions. my azureus program is still cranking right along. i will always buy music, trade music and see live shows. it's that simple. and for the "billions" of dollars the record execs say they are losing? my response is ha-ha-ha. kind of a karmic bitch slap for every great album that has been shelved and unheard because recording companies could not make their million dollar quota. once again ha-ha-ha. try and stop me coppers.ha-ha-ha!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>one word&#8230;.napster&#8230; anyone remember that one? this bust certainly has not slowed my music acquisitions. my azureus program is still cranking right along. i will always buy music, trade music and see live shows. it&#8217;s that simple. and for the &#8220;billions&#8221; of dollars the record execs say they are losing? my response is ha-ha-ha. kind of a karmic bitch slap for every great album that has been shelved and unheard because recording companies could not make their million dollar quota. once again ha-ha-ha. try and stop me coppers.ha-ha-ha!</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13754#comment-198586</link>
		<author>Jay</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 06:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13754#comment-198586</guid>
		<description>Are there even ads at Oink?  For the life of me I dont know if Ive ever seen one.

Its funny, i once saw a comment on one of the torrents of a band from the owner of the label the band was on.  It was a small time indie band and label with only a half dozen to a dozen bands on it.  And the owner himself had over 160gb downloaded and the ratio was over 1.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are there even ads at Oink?  For the life of me I dont know if Ive ever seen one.</p>
<p>Its funny, i once saw a comment on one of the torrents of a band from the owner of the label the band was on.  It was a small time indie band and label with only a half dozen to a dozen bands on it.  And the owner himself had over 160gb downloaded and the ratio was over 1.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13754#comment-198484</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 01:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13754#comment-198484</guid>
		<description>The real question will be if Oink had enough knowledge not to have some private stuff on the server. Linking through hyperlinks, even for torrents has not been proven to be illegal. But if they can find something like downloaded material on the server, on the computers he used at work, or on his home computer, then that is what they will hang him with, along with the claim of taking money for the site. 

Now you and I know that it was donations. They've been doing their dangest to show a profit motive, going as far as suggesting that carrying ads it the equivalent of making tons of money. We both know that ads don't make tons of money for most sites unless they have one heck of a traffic flow. Nor do I think donations are a "for profit" motive as I would imagine Oink was like most sites and never asked for donations. They will accept them from members nice enough to contribute but it is usually the standard to never ask or demand. 

Then there is the question of if the labels themselves were involved with seeing some of that music traffic got to the members for a marketing test. This same sort of passing of data to make sure it is one the site is what happened with The Pirate Bay and I have no doubt that they would be quite willing to do it again to ensure the raid didn't come up empty handed. It would have really looked bad if there were no computers at that home and with the press "miraculously on hand" during the bust, you can be sure they would want to make certain that some sort of material was there to be found. 

I long ago quit buying from these idiots that think the sole reason for music to exist is to fund the vampire. I would imagine there will be more joining that cause with this "bust". Even if piracy ceases to be an event to be concerned about, it will not alter my spending habits. I intend that the labels will know my disapproval on their bottom line. You should do the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real question will be if Oink had enough knowledge not to have some private stuff on the server. Linking through hyperlinks, even for torrents has not been proven to be illegal. But if they can find something like downloaded material on the server, on the computers he used at work, or on his home computer, then that is what they will hang him with, along with the claim of taking money for the site. </p>
<p>Now you and I know that it was donations. They&#8217;ve been doing their dangest to show a profit motive, going as far as suggesting that carrying ads it the equivalent of making tons of money. We both know that ads don&#8217;t make tons of money for most sites unless they have one heck of a traffic flow. Nor do I think donations are a &#8220;for profit&#8221; motive as I would imagine Oink was like most sites and never asked for donations. They will accept them from members nice enough to contribute but it is usually the standard to never ask or demand. </p>
<p>Then there is the question of if the labels themselves were involved with seeing some of that music traffic got to the members for a marketing test. This same sort of passing of data to make sure it is one the site is what happened with The Pirate Bay and I have no doubt that they would be quite willing to do it again to ensure the raid didn&#8217;t come up empty handed. It would have really looked bad if there were no computers at that home and with the press &#8220;miraculously on hand&#8221; during the bust, you can be sure they would want to make certain that some sort of material was there to be found. </p>
<p>I long ago quit buying from these idiots that think the sole reason for music to exist is to fund the vampire. I would imagine there will be more joining that cause with this &#8220;bust&#8221;. Even if piracy ceases to be an event to be concerned about, it will not alter my spending habits. I intend that the labels will know my disapproval on their bottom line. You should do the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13754#comment-198458</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 00:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13754#comment-198458</guid>
		<description>Ya I havent used oink in months and am currently in a country with no copyright laws. Good luck SOB's</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ya I havent used oink in months and am currently in a country with no copyright laws. Good luck SOB&#8217;s</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13754#comment-198248</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 17:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13754#comment-198248</guid>
		<description>Since when there is a subscription to use OINK? since when there is infringing file on the OINK server?

What a pack of liers! 

When even the police is lying this bad, When they let theselves beeing corrupted by an hand full of corporations operated by parasites it is time to throw out our entire governement and shout every one in the said corporations!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since when there is a subscription to use OINK? since when there is infringing file on the OINK server?</p>
<p>What a pack of liers! </p>
<p>When even the police is lying this bad, When they let theselves beeing corrupted by an hand full of corporations operated by parasites it is time to throw out our entire governement and shout every one in the said corporations!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13754#comment-198243</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 17:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13754#comment-198243</guid>
		<description>Each time these parasites do something obnoxious and immoral it help me spread the boycott wider because most people agree that they suck given the imforation and most once inform joint the boycott.

Thank you to the Vivendique/Universale, Sony/BMG, Time Warner for helping us puting yourself out of business!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Each time these parasites do something obnoxious and immoral it help me spread the boycott wider because most people agree that they suck given the imforation and most once inform joint the boycott.</p>
<p>Thank you to the Vivendique/Universale, Sony/BMG, Time Warner for helping us puting yourself out of business!</p>
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		<title>By: b0rg</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13754#comment-198242</link>
		<author>b0rg</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 17:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13754#comment-198242</guid>
		<description>alot of false imformation, a reporter 'on the scene' to work up the record industry hippobloated hysteria spreading multibillion loss off downloading.. the masses will rise up and swallow them, eventually.. it's called evolution - stay tuned to it, or tune out..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>alot of false imformation, a reporter &#8216;on the scene&#8217; to work up the record industry hippobloated hysteria spreading multibillion loss off downloading.. the masses will rise up and swallow them, eventually.. it&#8217;s called evolution - stay tuned to it, or tune out..</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13754#comment-198186</link>
		<author>Jay</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 14:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13754#comment-198186</guid>
		<description>I guess they ran out of terrorists to look for in the UK.  I know a lot of bands that used Oink as a way to help get their music out.  I also know of a few people that worked at music labels that had over 100GB uploaded and downloaded.

Oink had music on there that you  could not find anywhere else.  I used it for hard to find indie bands where sometimes the only way to get there cd was to go to a show and the chances Id be able to go to one is like 0%.

Prerelease cds are uploaded everywhere else not just Oink.  That video pisses me off because of all the false statements.  You dont have to pay to join and no music was ever uploaded to teh site.  Funny how they raided the place in Amsterdam to get the servers.  I guess pot and prostitution are legal but heaven forbid you host .torrent files on a server.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess they ran out of terrorists to look for in the UK.  I know a lot of bands that used Oink as a way to help get their music out.  I also know of a few people that worked at music labels that had over 100GB uploaded and downloaded.</p>
<p>Oink had music on there that you  could not find anywhere else.  I used it for hard to find indie bands where sometimes the only way to get there cd was to go to a show and the chances Id be able to go to one is like 0%.</p>
<p>Prerelease cds are uploaded everywhere else not just Oink.  That video pisses me off because of all the false statements.  You dont have to pay to join and no music was ever uploaded to teh site.  Funny how they raided the place in Amsterdam to get the servers.  I guess pot and prostitution are legal but heaven forbid you host .torrent files on a server.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13754#comment-198069</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13754#comment-198069</guid>
		<description>You people are so nieve , the world doesnt work for free , its none of anyones concern if the “Big4″ make a squillion pounds - dont buy their merchandise if you feel offended , bunch of sofa chair anarchists .



I would rather be naive than an IDIOT like YOU!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You people are so nieve , the world doesnt work for free , its none of anyones concern if the “Big4″ make a squillion pounds - dont buy their merchandise if you feel offended , bunch of sofa chair anarchists .</p>
<p>I would rather be naive than an IDIOT like YOU!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13754#comment-198050</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 10:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13754#comment-198050</guid>
		<description>You people are so nieve , the world doesnt work for free , its none of anyones concern if the "Big4" make a squillion pounds - dont buy their merchandise if you feel offended , bunch of sofa chair anarchists .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You people are so nieve , the world doesnt work for free , its none of anyones concern if the &#8220;Big4&#8243; make a squillion pounds - dont buy their merchandise if you feel offended , bunch of sofa chair anarchists .</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13754#comment-197907</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 05:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13754#comment-197907</guid>
		<description>I wonder what the people saying that private torrent sites were so "safe" .....have to say NOW?

It was already revealed that oink was infiltrated by the media defender emails. 

That SHOULD have set off alarm bells at oink...but I guess he thought his site was invincible....guess he found out wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder what the people saying that private torrent sites were so &#8220;safe&#8221; &#8230;..have to say NOW?</p>
<p>It was already revealed that oink was infiltrated by the media defender emails. </p>
<p>That SHOULD have set off alarm bells at oink&#8230;but I guess he thought his site was invincible&#8230;.guess he found out wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13754#comment-197757</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 00:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13754#comment-197757</guid>
		<description>at least get the fact straight--there was no "paying" involved to enter the site. just optional donations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>at least get the fact straight&#8211;there was no &#8220;paying&#8221; involved to enter the site. just optional donations.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13754#comment-197688</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13754#comment-197688</guid>
		<description>what? "revenues are down by a third since illegal downloading started"?  i don't know what part of their rectums these statistics are being pulled from, but it must be a very fanciful place indeed. Best of luck to the admin of oink, and i hope like pirate bay, it rises from the ashes to begin anew.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what? &#8220;revenues are down by a third since illegal downloading started&#8221;?  i don&#8217;t know what part of their rectums these statistics are being pulled from, but it must be a very fanciful place indeed. Best of luck to the admin of oink, and i hope like pirate bay, it rises from the ashes to begin anew.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13754#comment-197684</link>
		<author>Jon</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13754#comment-197684</guid>
		<description>And you can expect more like this. The lamescream media are picking it up like its real.

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And you can expect more like this. The lamescream media are picking it up like its real.</p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13754#comment-197658</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 19:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13754#comment-197658</guid>
		<description>fking mind-boggling</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fking mind-boggling</p>
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