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Record label corporate lies

p2pnet news | Music:- With the farcical OiNK bust still garnering headlines, Warner Music, EMI, Vivendi Universal and Sony BMG barking dog the BPI (British Phonographic Industry) is exploiting the mainstream media to give the false impression that OiNK supporters are in serious, and immediate, danger of being ” investigated,” ultimately ending up on a Big 4 hit list.

Using the corporate press corps as their willing, and unpaid, BS propagators, the Big 4 copyright cartel has been able to create the entirely false impression that people who share music with each other are in clear and imminent danger of being identified and busted.

However, in the US alone, where most of the attention is focused, it’s been estimated that a minimum of sixty million people regularly and routinely share online.

But only 30,000 also men, women and children have been subpoenaed by the RIAA (Recording Industry Association of America), another of the Big 4’s so-called ‘trade’ organisations.

Figure it out.

In other words, IMHO you, as an individual, stand about as much chance of becoming an RIAA victim as you do of winning a million dollars or being struck by lightning.

The labels know that, but they wanted to create an artificial climate of terror, and they’ve succeeded.

A stern warning

In 2004 Canadian marketing expert Dr Markus Geisler (right) made it clear Big Music’s efforts to stampede people into buying its over-priced product by suing them weren’t having much success.

In fact, the risk tied to file sharing was then, as now, almost zero, “despite entertainment industry claims to the contrary,” said Giesler, who’s also a former label owner.

In his Theory of Collective Consumer Risk, “Downloaders are generally less likely to expect a stern warning, expensive lawsuit or even criminal prosecution, the more those around them are doing the same,” he says.

He’s just completed Conflict and Compromise: Drama in Marketplace Evolution, a seven-year ethnography on the war on music downloading.

It’s slated for publication in the April 2008 Journal of Consumer Research, but you can check it out now on his web site.

As the only longitudinal investigation of downloading as a cultural and political phenomenon, it makes fascinating reading.

‘The dwarfs are in the panicking mode …’

Among the people interviewed are Tim and Eric taken, admittedly, out of context for Giesler’s study, but in context for the present Big Music onslaught against its own customers.

Says Tim:

This is very simple. The dwarfs are in the panicking mode.It’s their death struggle. It’s symptomatic for their inability to understand that the world around them has changed. They have missed the boat. What a pathetic expression of impotence is it to sue children, you know, children? Or caring mums or folks who don’t even have a computer. Let’s just lie to everyone. Let the lawyers throw out a zillion letters, and we’ll see what keeps sticking. I mean, how low can you go?

Eric, decribed as a, “DRM activist from Chicago,” states:

Well, the simple truth is this. As long as there is music, there will always be a war on downloading. We won’t stop until the labels accept that music wants to be free. The labels have a history of being the bad guys in all of this. . . . For example, DRM, like all other excuses before, clearly does not protect the artist at all. Fair Play . . . stands for a failure to play fair because all it does it protect business dollars. But who protects musicians and consumers? Who protects culture? By now, you know, all existing DRM systems have been hacked, . . . and consumers discover what they can really do with music. This is the beauty of it. . . . There will always be some corporate party trying to screw us, but there will always also be the unstoppable power of freedom. It’s the way of the world that man wants to improve his condition.

Conflict and contestation

I asked Giesler three questions:

1) Will entertainment marketeers be able to continue alienating their customers?

Giesler: Ironically speaking, I hope so. Because if not there would not be any development whatsoever. The evolution of our culture is based on conflict and contestation, in this case over the definition what constitutes the right blending between the sharing and owning of music. We all dream that we agree on everything but the reality is that we can’t.

But this dream keeps us going as a culture because each of us thinks he has the better strategy to make it happen.

Naturally, however, consumers lean more towards sharing whereas producers prefer owning. A market is always the institutional compromise between the two in historical transition. Markets are the cultural stages where we negotiate these compromises and we can never finally agree. With better technology and bandwidth on the one hand and the industry’s ongoing efforts to conquer new commercial territories on the other, I believe the war on music downloading is far from being over.

2) Do you agree with the contention in the case of the movie and recording industries, general attempts to sue consumers into line with corporate desires have done little more than to create a new consumer base which will do everything it can to stay away from the major labels and movie studios?

Giesler: Yes, absolutely. On the one hand, suing has alienated a lot of consumers. In fact, the lawsuits provided a great rhetorical springboard from which to construct the industry’s practices as unethical and, conversely, downloaders as champions of freedom. On the other hand, these aggressive efforts also direct certain consumers into commercial channels. Many of the consumers I observed during the past seven years took the label’s attacks as an imperative to switch gears and become loyal iTunes uers.

Ultimately, it goes both ways. The war on music downloading is a war over what constitutes the right way of dealing with music. But there is no “right” way, much in the same way that there is no “right” way of playing an instrument.

What’s right or wrong depends on how we’ve been socialized historically. To this end, I think suing customers is not the right way, or the smartest for that matter, but that’s not a

universal statement, just my personal opinion. The other thing that bothers me from a research point of view is that some forms of suing consumers present a giant waste of money and societal resources. It’s a giant waste of trust. One of the negative consequences of this practice is that we will lose confidence in the ways our institutions govern the cultural and commercial treatment of music. But again, this is also a matter of interpretation that develops in the tension between sharing and owning.

3) Do you agree with the contention that thanks to the Net, consumers are fast becoming customers again; people with free will and the ability to exercise it?

Giesler: Yes, smart companies understand that consumers are cultural agents in their own right and that resistance is futile. The Web is a powerful tool for the expression of political opinion and the display of corporate injustice.

The Web is a democratic stage of sorts where different players can perform their vision of fair culture. It’s also a creative stage where consumers and producers can forge great solutions to certain cultural problems.

Ultimately, I believe it doesn’t make a lot of sense to speak about markets and consumers and producers anymore. We’ve all become interconnected cyborgs who rewire the market matrix in accordance with our political goals. That’s what technology allows us to do more than ever before. On the other hand, the web is not inherently liberating or good. While we all enjoy freedom of expression, creativity, and free stuff there is also a dark side to the matrix.

As a cultural stage, the Web can also be abused to dominate consumers, especially children. So as with everything, it’s a double-edged sword and it depends on the rules of the game that we set for ourselves as a culture.

Stay tuned, as ever.

Jon Newton – p2pnet

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21 Responses to “Record label corporate lies”

  1. Reader's Write Says:

    you mean the big 4 have not been telling the truth? nooooooooooooooo!

  2. huh Says:

    So, when a P2Pnet reader gets sued by the RIAA, how long will it be before they (the reader) sue P2Pnet for basically telling them “You won’t get caught”?

  3. sk8rpro Says:

    umm…I think much more people have gotten sued than got struck by lightning considering what? 20,000 or 30,000 people have gotten sued. DO you want to be one of those people?

  4. Reader's Write Says:

    20-30,000 out of 60,000,000 so what are the odds on that? can anyone figure that out?

  5. Paulus Says:

    I am beginning to think a lot of RIAA fans now come to this site ;)

  6. Jon Says:

    “20-30,000 out of 60,000,000 so what are the odds on that? can anyone figure that out?”

    Seriously, can anyone put that into a number?

    Meanwhile, Huh and sk8rpro, I’m simply saying the labels have created a completely false scenario which gives the impression the odds of being had by the RIAA, or any of the other Big 4 alphabet organisations, are extremely high. I’m saying they’re extremely low.

    No, I haven’t calculated the odds – I have trouble putting 2 and 2 together – but the sue ‘em all campaign isn’t local: it’s international and I’ll bet if you put together the total number of people in various countries who’ve been successfully prosecuted for copyright infringement (or copyright crime, if they’re unlucky enough to be in a country which sees sharing as a criminal offence) against the number of people around the world who regularly share music with each other, there’d be magnitudes of difference.

  7. Reader's Write Says:

    “The labels know that, but they wanted to create an artificial climate of terror, and they’ve succeeded.”

    Oh Yea? I am downloading and sharing and just 60 millions in the US alone and a billion in the word are doing the same right now as we speak. Oooohhhh! I am scare alright.
    Oops! by the time I finished writing this I just dowloaded another album! And now it is shared Ooops! Comme after me RIAA!

    Now I am going to download another movie. Ok it’s downloading. and another one. it is downloading too!

    This is bothering hum? RIAA/MPAA parasites!

  8. Jon Says:

    Me again:

    Still on Huh’s comment, if they came after me, they’d also have to sue others such as Spencer Sloan, editor of GoldenFiddle.com-
    http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2007/10/riaa_wins_case_against_poor_wo.html

    “Not to take anything away from the RIAA’s victory, but with an estimated 60 million users of P2P services in the U.S. alone, and only 26,000 lawsuits filed against downloaders so far, we’d say the odds of this happening to you, Vulture readers, are probably less than the odds of your being struck by lightning on the day that Chinese Democracy comes out. So please continue to enjoy our Right-Click and Leak of the Week columns! —Spencer Sloan”

    Or —

    Kairosnews, platypus matt
    http://kairosnews.org/riaa-trial-verdict-is-in-jury-finds-thom

    “… the odds of an individual file sharer being sued are almost as low as being struck by lightning. I mean, what are we talking here? There must be at least 10 million active file sharers…Maybe at most 10,000 of them being sued each year. This is the first case to actually go to court. If more people take them to court over it, their costs will escalate greatly–much cheaper for them if people just pay them off.

    Or —

    StarTribune
    http://www.startribune.com/462/story/1468462.html

    “Thursday’s judgment in U.S. District Court against Thomas “is essentially a nonevent,” said Gene Munster, a digital music industry analyst for Piper Jaffray in Minneapolis. “The war against illegal downloading has long been lost because 85 percent of all downloaded digital music is still illegal copies.”

    “Besides, Munster added, a person’s chances of getting caught pirating are less than their chances of being struck by lightning.”

    And there are probably more.

    And I’d say the chances of this, or any other, p2pnet post being cited in a court as an excuse for someone continuing to share files are, well, similar to me being struck by lightning.

    It could happen, but ……

    Meanwhile, as Tim says above, “The dwarfs are in the panicking mode.It’s their death struggle.”

    Cheers!

  9. Reader's Write Says:

    But there is more. With P2P to start affecting availability on a 100 millions populations you need to reduce sharing to less than 2% representing less than 2 millions sharer. There is one billion world wide and about 25-30% are sharing. Many of them live in area not reachable at all by these evils companies and don’t have to worry about them.

    So not only the risk is near zero to be bother by these pigs but even if it was not they would still not be able to stop the decentralised p2p network.

    And as far as bittorrent is concerned there is many trackers not Reachable either by the RIAA/MPAA.

    So wathever this criminal pigs is useless and they are screwed! screwed! screwed! screwed!

    Whahahahahahahahahaha!

  10. Reader's Write Says:

    If only they did not have show us what type of low life they are we might have reached out.

    Too late we know! Bye BYe Bye parasites.

  11. Reader's Write Says:

    We are boycotting.

  12. Eric Says:

    I agree with what Eric from Chicago says, but I am not THAT Eric from Chicago. (He sure sounds like me though.)

  13. Paulus Says:

    Who is Eric from Chicago and what did he say?

  14. Paulus Says:

    Oh — I see now. ‘DRM activist from Chicago’ Sorry. Yes. I agree too :)

  15. buzzkill Says:

    does the war on music have anything to do with oil?

  16. Zorg Says:

    20,000:60,000,000 = 1:3,000
    30,000:60,000,000 = 1:2,000
    So 20-30,000 out of 60,000,000 would give a chance of two to three in 6,000 of being caught.
    Since the number 26,000 has been mentioned, I’ll just add that 26,000:60,000,000 = 1:2,307.

  17. PatriotX Says:

    ok I’m posting a comment here but it aint getting posted, so damn if I’m going to let that stop me here is a link to a picture with what I was trying to post, its about some interesting statistics and stuff.

    http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/2853/answearic5.png

  18. Weegie Says:

    And for those of you who like numbers, 30′000 out of 60′000′000 is the same as 0,003333%
    In comparrison the chance of being struck by lightning is estimated to 0,000143% in the US.

    But I guess that depends on where you live…

  19. Kevvyboy Says:

    The MPAA and the RIAA (and BPI in the UK) are a mess of double standards and downright lies. Here in the UK we keep being told (as you are in the US) that illegal downloads are killing cinema/DVD sales, but in fact it seems to be all lies. It was announced recently that the UK has just had the largest and highest grossing cinema attendances in almost 50 years this summer because of summer blockbusters etc. How can this be so if the movie industry is supposed to be dying?. It was also announced that overall music sales are also higher than 10 years ago (if legal downloads are included as they are now), so again, how on earth is the music industry being killed off?. It’s nothing more than lies from the cartels in the entertainment industry who want to control what you watch and listen to, when, how many times you can and what you can do with your music.

    Sod them all I say.

  20. PatriotX Says:

    I have heard that 9 out of 10 getting sued agree on a settlement in the UK, I wonder if thats a BPI lie?

    I also wonder what the ratio is in the US, over here in Iceland the ratio is like 0 out of 10* as of yet.

    *see my earlier comment for more info on the subject.

  21. Reader's Write Says:

    So we know that what the RIAA is doing does not make much sense.
    They know that too.
    So why are they doing it? Last grasp at the straw before they go down?
    Or is it something else?
    Are they being put up to this by another group who may also benefit from the minor successes of the RIAA?

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