Comments on: Record label corporate lies

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Tue, 30 Oct 2007 14:00:31 +0000

So we know that what the RIAA is doing does not make much sense.
They know that too.
So why are they doing it? Last grasp at the straw before they go down?
Or is it something else?
Are they being put up to this by another group who may also benefit from the minor successes of the RIAA?

By: PatriotX

PatriotX — Mon, 29 Oct 2007 20:29:35 +0000

I have heard that 9 out of 10 getting sued agree on a settlement in the UK, I wonder if thats a BPI lie?

I also wonder what the ratio is in the US, over here in Iceland the ratio is like 0 out of 10* as of yet.

*see my earlier comment for more info on the subject.

By: Kevvyboy

Kevvyboy — Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:23:43 +0000

The MPAA and the RIAA (and BPI in the UK) are a mess of double standards and downright lies. Here in the UK we keep being told (as you are in the US) that illegal downloads are killing cinema/DVD sales, but in fact it seems to be all lies. It was announced recently that the UK has just had the largest and highest grossing cinema attendances in almost 50 years this summer because of summer blockbusters etc. How can this be so if the movie industry is supposed to be dying?. It was also announced that overall music sales are also higher than 10 years ago (if legal downloads are included as they are now), so again, how on earth is the music industry being killed off?. It’s nothing more than lies from the cartels in the entertainment industry who want to control what you watch and listen to, when, how many times you can and what you can do with your music.

Sod them all I say.

By: Weegie

Weegie — Mon, 29 Oct 2007 01:54:45 +0000

And for those of you who like numbers, 30′000 out of 60′000′000 is the same as 0,003333%
In comparrison the chance of being struck by lightning is estimated to 0,000143% in the US.

But I guess that depends on where you live…

By: PatriotX

PatriotX — Sun, 28 Oct 2007 17:54:23 +0000

ok I’m posting a comment here but it aint getting posted, so damn if I’m going to let that stop me here is a link to a picture with what I was trying to post, its about some interesting statistics and stuff.

http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/2853/answearic5.png

By: Zorg

Zorg — Fri, 26 Oct 2007 07:56:18 +0000

20,000:60,000,000 = 1:3,000
30,000:60,000,000 = 1:2,000
So 20-30,000 out of 60,000,000 would give a chance of two to three in 6,000 of being caught.
Since the number 26,000 has been mentioned, I’ll just add that 26,000:60,000,000 = 1:2,307.

By: buzzkill

buzzkill — Fri, 26 Oct 2007 00:01:17 +0000

does the war on music have anything to do with oil?

By: Paulus

Paulus — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 23:12:30 +0000

Oh — I see now. ‘DRM activist from Chicago’ Sorry. Yes. I agree too

By: Paulus

Paulus — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 23:10:49 +0000

Who is Eric from Chicago and what did he say?

By: Eric

Eric — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 22:37:55 +0000

I agree with what Eric from Chicago says, but I am not THAT Eric from Chicago. (He sure sounds like me though.)

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 21:15:56 +0000

We are boycotting.

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 21:14:40 +0000

If only they did not have show us what type of low life they are we might have reached out.

Too late we know! Bye BYe Bye parasites.

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 21:02:23 +0000

But there is more. With P2P to start affecting availability on a 100 millions populations you need to reduce sharing to less than 2% representing less than 2 millions sharer. There is one billion world wide and about 25-30% are sharing. Many of them live in area not reachable at all by these evils companies and don’t have to worry about them.

So not only the risk is near zero to be bother by these pigs but even if it was not they would still not be able to stop the decentralised p2p network.

And as far as bittorrent is concerned there is many trackers not Reachable either by the RIAA/MPAA.

So wathever this criminal pigs is useless and they are screwed! screwed! screwed! screwed!

Whahahahahahahahahaha!

By: Jon

Jon — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 21:00:16 +0000

Me again:

Still on Huh’s comment, if they came after me, they’d also have to sue others such as Spencer Sloan, editor of GoldenFiddle.com-
http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2007/10/riaa_wins_case_against_poor_wo.html

“Not to take anything away from the RIAA’s victory, but with an estimated 60 million users of P2P services in the U.S. alone, and only 26,000 lawsuits filed against downloaders so far, we’d say the odds of this happening to you, Vulture readers, are probably less than the odds of your being struck by lightning on the day that Chinese Democracy comes out. So please continue to enjoy our Right-Click and Leak of the Week columns! —Spencer Sloan”

Or —

Kairosnews, platypus matt
http://kairosnews.org/riaa-trial-verdict-is-in-jury-finds-thom

“… the odds of an individual file sharer being sued are almost as low as being struck by lightning. I mean, what are we talking here? There must be at least 10 million active file sharers…Maybe at most 10,000 of them being sued each year. This is the first case to actually go to court. If more people take them to court over it, their costs will escalate greatly–much cheaper for them if people just pay them off.

Or —

StarTribune
http://www.startribune.com/462/story/1468462.html

“Thursday’s judgment in U.S. District Court against Thomas “is essentially a nonevent,” said Gene Munster, a digital music industry analyst for Piper Jaffray in Minneapolis. “The war against illegal downloading has long been lost because 85 percent of all downloaded digital music is still illegal copies.”

“Besides, Munster added, a person’s chances of getting caught pirating are less than their chances of being struck by lightning.”

And there are probably more.

And I’d say the chances of this, or any other, p2pnet post being cited in a court as an excuse for someone continuing to share files are, well, similar to me being struck by lightning.

It could happen, but ……

Meanwhile, as Tim says above, “The dwarfs are in the panicking mode.It’s their death struggle.”

Cheers!

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 20:44:41 +0000

“The labels know that, but they wanted to create an artificial climate of terror, and they’ve succeeded.”

Oh Yea? I am downloading and sharing and just 60 millions in the US alone and a billion in the word are doing the same right now as we speak. Oooohhhh! I am scare alright.
Oops! by the time I finished writing this I just dowloaded another album! And now it is shared Ooops! Comme after me RIAA!

Now I am going to download another movie. Ok it’s downloading. and another one. it is downloading too!

This is bothering hum? RIAA/MPAA parasites!

By: Jon

Jon — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:57:18 +0000

“20-30,000 out of 60,000,000 so what are the odds on that? can anyone figure that out?”

Seriously, can anyone put that into a number?

Meanwhile, Huh and sk8rpro, I’m simply saying the labels have created a completely false scenario which gives the impression the odds of being had by the RIAA, or any of the other Big 4 alphabet organisations, are extremely high. I’m saying they’re extremely low.

No, I haven’t calculated the odds – I have trouble putting 2 and 2 together – but the sue ‘em all campaign isn’t local: it’s international and I’ll bet if you put together the total number of people in various countries who’ve been successfully prosecuted for copyright infringement (or copyright crime, if they’re unlucky enough to be in a country which sees sharing as a criminal offence) against the number of people around the world who regularly share music with each other, there’d be magnitudes of difference.

By: Paulus

Paulus — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:21:09 +0000

I am beginning to think a lot of RIAA fans now come to this site

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:19:40 +0000

20-30,000 out of 60,000,000 so what are the odds on that? can anyone figure that out?

By: sk8rpro

sk8rpro — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 18:01:44 +0000

umm…I think much more people have gotten sued than got struck by lightning considering what? 20,000 or 30,000 people have gotten sued. DO you want to be one of those people?

By: huh

huh — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:32:55 +0000

So, when a P2Pnet reader gets sued by the RIAA, how long will it be before they (the reader) sue P2Pnet for basically telling them “You won’t get caught”?