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p2pnet news | Music:- Was Radiohead’s plan to let fans decide how much their newest album, In Rainbows, was worth a “one-trick pony” unsustainable as a business model applicable across the music industry, or even repeatedly for an act?
Journalist/broadcaster/historian Larry LeBlanc believes that’s the case.
This is big news, said another music industry expert, Bob Lefsetz, when the story broke, going on:
“This says the major labels are fucked. Untrustworthy with a worthless business model. Radiohead doesn’t seem to care if the music is free. Not that they believe it will be. Because believers will give you ALL THEIR MONEY!”
Will they make a deal with a major for physical distribution? - he wondered.
“Will they do it themselves? Or will they leave ALL that money on the table? Shit, that would blow MY mind.
It look as if Lefsetz has been answered.
Radiohead is, “close to signing a series of deals to release its next album independently and leave the major record companies behind,” says the New York Times, going on:
“The band, which stunned the industry this month when it let fans set their own price for the digital download of its new album, is close to a deal to release the CD version of the album domestically through a pact with the music complex headed by Coran Capshaw, the impresario best known for guiding the career of the Dave Matthews Band.
“The band is expected to market the album internationally through the British label XL Recordings, according to people briefed on the band’s plans.”
It would license the album, “for a specified period of time but retain ownership of the recording,” says the story, adding In Rainbows has sold roughly a million copies domestically, “and the band’s managers have said they viewed the recent name-your-price offer, in part, as a test of whether the availability of cheap (or free) music online would reduce the band’s future CD sales”.
Definitely stay tuned.
Also See:
that’s the case - Radiohead and the one-trick pony, October 12, 2007
ALL THEIR MONEY! - Radiohead: Big Music’s worse nightmare, October 1, 2007
New York Times - Radiohead Said to Shun Major Labels in Next Deal, October 23, 2007
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October 26th, 2007 at 9:08 am
remind one of the little boy with his finger dam
doesn’t??
the flood is beginning
by by riaa
we will miss you, NOT
October 26th, 2007 at 9:31 am
The RIAA have done so much to further our musical culture (and reward artists especially), yet this is the low down dirty way we repay them?
I’m disgusted.
The lawsuits are really beginning to bite now and filesharing is on the way down. Artists like Radiohead will see the error of their ways in time and come running back to the music labels, cap in hand.
October 26th, 2007 at 9:41 am
i cant remember the source but apparently they made 50p less per album on average. That will still leave them in pocket as im shore the RIAA/lable took more than 50p.
if they had prevented people from paying £0.00 and started at £0.01(~$0.005) i think they would have prevented the non-fans who only purchased it for £0.00 as they could.
October 26th, 2007 at 10:08 am
50p less per album is actualy a great profit since they left out the middle hand if what you read is true, i read Radiohead is going better then ever, and dispite the music being “released” on P2P networks its all good. Radiohead didnt mind and thought it was more of a “habit” and its a great way to distribute.
several releasers included in the NFO files their site and where to donate, some did not however and imo those releases should be discarded from torrent sites. but most users comment where to donate and to get the music for “free” if they wanted in comments anyway.
and Music Lover, filesharing is hardly dead, its very mutch alive and kicking
probably more then ever because of protests from RIAA/MPAA and other anti piracy organisations actions.
October 26th, 2007 at 11:18 am
I don’t care what the majors are going to do next.
I will continue to boycott them with all the RIAA members.
For those members guilty of extortion there is no turning back and the boycott is to death.
For the other the boycott might stop if they drop the RIAA.
I know that some will try to creat subsidaries, change their business name and so on but we will detect that too and we will continue to boycott them.
October 26th, 2007 at 11:20 am
“The lawsuits are really beginning to bite now and filesharing is on the way down. Artists like Radiohead will see the error of their ways in time and come running back to the music labels, cap in hand.”
Not a chance! The parasites will die.
October 26th, 2007 at 11:30 am
“The RIAA have done so much to further our musical culture (and reward artists especially), yet this is the low down dirty way we repay them?”
They damaged the music culture with their prefabricated artists with no talent try ing to sing rubish songs with rubish musics or no music at all and rubish lyrics, teaching moral depreavation and crap to our kids with the help of the BritneySlutt, MadonaCrap, Nulimen, and the like of DrShit, all of these with ton of marketing BS.
The 20th century was an artistic desert because of them. No longer! The music is now free and it is as if the public is weaking-up. Art is standing up again and the majors are fucked!
Let’s spray with pesticide what’s left of them and be done with it.
October 26th, 2007 at 11:53 am
“The music is now free” I mean intelectually free.
October 26th, 2007 at 12:23 pm
lol you guys are fun. It’s “Let’s download all this music for free!” and then it’s “This music all sucks” at the same time. Well, which is it? You want the “product” but then you want to act like the product’s no good. I think you feel guilty for the downloading and so you strike out against the very music you wanted so desperately to download.
October 26th, 2007 at 12:57 pm
No guilt here, dumbass. When it’s crap it goes in the trash where it belongs, when it’s good it gets purchased, just not through outdated 20th century retail means. You just don’t get it.
October 26th, 2007 at 1:11 pm
Who you calling a dumbass?!! Moron!
You are gagging for the product you call “crap”.
Don’t ever forget: every download is a lost sale.
October 26th, 2007 at 3:08 pm
” Don’t ever forget: every download is a lost sale. ”
Don’t ever forget ..
A download NEVER = a lost sale.
Never has, never will.
Anyone who says otherwise is misinformed, or a liar.
” You are gagging for the product you call “crap”. ”
As an easy comparison of the top downloads vs top sellers, one will see that
If they like it, they buy it. Easy to look up.
top downloads are almost always top sellers as well. this supports
this statement …
” When it’s crap it goes in the trash where it belongs, when it’s good it gets purchased, ”
There is no proof whatsoever that a download = a lost sale.
That’s because it’s just .. not .. true.
There are very few that are stupid enough to believe the RIAA company line anymore.
October 26th, 2007 at 3:20 pm
” Don’t ever forget: every download is a lost sale. ”
On what do you base this conclusion on ?
” Carey Sherman Says so ” doesn’t count.
October 26th, 2007 at 3:43 pm
I’m all up for the **AAs disappearing from our lives for good.
October 27th, 2007 at 7:48 pm
To all the crybabies arguing about guilt over downloading recording industry music:
Not everyone is into music that comes exclusively from the Big 4, you know. avex group, anyone?
Here’s one that I love that isn’t under the thumb of Big 4:
http://electropica.com/en/
Hmph.
October 28th, 2007 at 6:13 am
Posting a link to band that isn’t under the RIAA umbrella really isn’t helpful. I’d be grateful if you don’t do it again.
October 28th, 2007 at 7:17 am
” Posting a link to band that isn’t under the RIAA umbrella really isn’t helpful. ”
This is REALLY what the RIAA fears most, after all.
” I’d be grateful if you don’t do it again. ”
I bet you would.
October 28th, 2007 at 8:29 am
The RIAA…… bullshit…they have done nothing but screw over artist since they have been established. I for one could care less if they lose their jobs…their posh living styles their limo’s…etc. I for one wish I could find a job where I don’t have to do a damn thing…and earn millions upon millions and then sue anyone who I feel like.
I have been buying music for at least 40 years now… I bought albums….8 tracks cassettes and I started buying cd’s….. What a load of crap…. Overpriced bull shit… and yes I will download all I can…. Most of it….I hear about 10 seconds of and hit delete….. All sounds the same anymore and I have yet to hear anything that I would consider paying the amounts that they charge. I say let the artists pander their own garbage and if it gets sold then they get 100% of the profits not some corp. idiot that doesn’t do a thing to earn it…. Let them get real jobs and break a sweat.
October 28th, 2007 at 10:01 am
p2pnet seems to have some comment posting glitches…
Hey “Music Lover:”
Suck it up and get over it.
Morning Musume, BoA, ELT (Every Little Thing), and Ayumi Hamasaki are well-known and info on all of them is easily found at http://wiki.theppn.org/avex_trax along with many, many other non-RIAA labelled music groups.
Hint: they’re all Japanese groups; the only label they could really be under is Sony, and out of all the things I listen to, Sony runs almost none of it.
I love Japanese music because it has the wild variation and diversity that has been lost in American music. The cliche pop styles almost don’t exist, and when they do, they often have a distinct difference from the Britney Spears/Backstreet Boys/Justin Timberlake recycled sounds you hear on the radio daily. m.o.v.e (also seen at http://wiki.theppn.org/m.o.v.e ) may be the best group to introduce rock/techno lovers to Japanese music, as they use English heavily mixed with the Japanese in their music and it can sound both familiar and nice shiny brand spankin’ new at the same time.
You’re not a music lover. You’re an idiot.
October 28th, 2007 at 11:15 am
Unlike that other Reader’s Write, you seem to be determined to cause trouble here by posting more independent links. Please stop this at once.
“Suck it up and get over it.”
The RIAA members have brought us our wonderful musical cultural heritage over the last 50 years or so. They will do so for the next 50 and no disaffected losers are gonna change that. *You* get over it.
“You’re not a music lover. You’re an idiot.”
Are you of low intelligence, perhaps?
October 28th, 2007 at 12:05 pm
” Unlike that other Reader’s Write, you seem to be determined to cause trouble here by posting more independent links. Please stop this at once. ”
Since Money Lover doesn’t own this site, and I don’t see Jon objecting ….
Please continue to direct us to non-riaa music that we may enjoy.
If you have your own site that has links to such acts, post it here.
You may have a lot of interested traffic.
One more thing ….
Money Lover is a troll .. stop feeding him ( but keep those links coming. )
How to tell ?
Bald propoganda statements without any factual backing.
Obvious over the top baiting … etc.
October 28th, 2007 at 12:51 pm
the riaa they are suck!!
October 28th, 2007 at 4:43 pm
Dreddsnik, I’m a huge fan of Japanese music, usually coined “J-rock” or “J-pop” and I find solace in the music from across the Pacific. It may be hard for people who think music is all about words and not about the actual music to stomach since they won’t know what all is being said without guidance, but for those who appreciate MUSIC for MUSIC rather than POETRY, it’s well worth listening in on.
We’ve really lost it in mainstream music in America. Every song should carry a “Recycle” symbol, because that’s what it is: recycled.
The following link illustrates a prime example of how, rather than bringing something new to the music scene in general, bands are simply cranking out music that sounds the same, over and over. It’s a shocking thing when you hear how two totally different songs sound practically the same.
http://www.thewebshite.net/nickelback.htm
Popular Japanese music tends to be influenced by pop, eurobeat, rock, techno, trance, rap, and many other genres of music, often mixed together in ways quite unusual and new to the Western ear. It seems like, just as I get tired of my old J-pop songs, something else shows up that sounds totally different and refreshing. I’ve always liked the majority of works by m.o.v.e (electropica.com) because of their amazing combination of a traditional female voice, techno-rock background music, rapping, and an interestingly large use of mixed Japanese and English in their songs. They were my most significant introduction to mainstream Japanese music, and because of the way that Japan goes through idols like a giant monster that ate a chocolate laxative pie, there is so much J-pop out there that the supply is almost endless.
Other artists I have taken a liking to, in whole or in part, are: Mikuni Shimokawa (Give “Kanashimi ni nakenaide” a listen, it’s also the Grenadier end theme), Utada Hikaru (who does a lot of English music as well, such as “Exodus 04″ under the name Utada), Morning Musume (very popular but some songs are too weird or poppy for me), SweetS, Key-A-Kiss (hard to find, ask if you want samples since you’ll never find a torrent of any of it), Hinoi Team, Every Little Thing (affectionately called ELT by fans), dream (look for “Moving On” or “Identity -prologue-”), BoA (”VALENTI” is her most popular song, though “Kimochi wa tsutawaru” or “Listen to my Heart” are good ones to start out with), Ayumi Hamasaki (my favorites are “Ladies Night” and “Surreal,” and the eurobeat versions “Monochrome (ayu-ro extended mix)” and “Audience (Euro-Power Mix)”), and the almost nonexistent artist “Reica” that did the music for the Pia Carrot e Youkoso anime movie.
I’ve pretty much stopped listening to American songs, excluding the more revolutionary older music and unique groups such as System of a Down whose sound is distinctly different and interesting.
If you want more info, you can reach me in private by mailing cryptik -at- s153718171.onlinehome.us and throwing “Japanese music” or similar in the subject, and I’ll gladly help out.
Natsufuku ga ii no desu, kawaii!
:) hahahaha
October 29th, 2007 at 3:09 pm
Wow. Well, that second comment from “huh” wasn’t from me.
Anyway. . .nobody has yet dealt with the fact that 1) you all decry a certain type of music as crap and 2) you same folks rush to download it. What gives?
October 29th, 2007 at 3:43 pm
” Anyway. . .nobody has yet dealt with the fact that 1) you all decry a certain type of music as crap and 2) you same folks rush to download it. What gives? ”
You have shown absolutely no proof that anyone here that decries RIAA crap
does, in fact download it.
I don’t.
I am not unique.
You have simply made a statement demanding proof of a negative, without
presenting any factual data.
Please provide proof that everyone here that Decries RIAA crap downloads it.
Show the data from which you derived this ‘fact’
October 29th, 2007 at 8:59 pm
” You have simply made a statement demanding proof of a negative, without
presenting any factual data. ”
That sounds just like what the RIAA is doing in court.
If huh is a shill he was taught very well.
October 31st, 2007 at 7:53 am
Hey, idiot, I just said I listen exclusively to Japanese crap, not RIAA crap, so my existence already stabbed your “point” in the asshole! OH SNAP! YOU’RE A MORON FOR NOT PAYING ATTENTION AND NOW THE ENTIRE INTERBUTT KNOWS IT!