Comments on: The Pirate Bay file sharing protocol

By: looroll

looroll — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 01:39:42 +0000

I agree with Angry what a kick in the nutz if they could make a protocol that mimics SSH and likewise packets

but in any case i hope something will appear soon

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:02:16 +0000

God, I so hope that this works out.

By: The Angry Offender

The Angry Offender — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 02:24:31 +0000

What we really need to see is a P2P protocol that sends out packets that appear to be HTTP, HTTPS, FTP, SSH, or similar packets, albeit on non-standard ports (especially a common practice with SSH-propagating viruses in the wild), and mask the real content in those streams via some form of randomly constructed asymmetric crypto such as that which PGP/GPG uses.

If a P2P app simulated SSH and used the same crypto as SSH, it would be indistinguishable from SSH traffic at the individual packet level. Hell, we see this stuff used for secure FTP transactions all the time.

The real P2P “killer app” will be one that exactly mimics an existing protocol that network managers can’t afford to throttle, block, RST attack, prioritize, QoS manage, or otherwise non-neutrally handle. When P2P traffic is indistinguishable from HTTPS or SSH traffic, the anti-P2P crowd are pretty much screwed, because even if one did want to eliminate P2P, the best that could be accomplished is to intentionally throttle per-user connection bandwidth, because any attempt to kill the P2P could cause legitimate traffic to fail.

Why isn’t this being done already? Why aren’t we tunneling P2P traffic over another protocol to hide it from malicious P2P haters, instead of running it in the wild with a big orange sign on each packet that says “EFFING TORRENT PACKET, COMCAST PLZ RST ME!!” ???

By: domina

domina — Tue, 30 Oct 2007 22:47:22 +0000

i download lot and riaa person is scaring me with lawsuit that is happening. what do i do?

By: bo

bo — Tue, 30 Oct 2007 22:00:35 +0000

i mean, i really hope that is all true, but im trying not to get my hopes up

By: bo

bo — Tue, 30 Oct 2007 21:59:00 +0000

to comment 3,

where did you read all that? or did i just miss it?

By: Reader's Write

Reader's Write — Tue, 30 Oct 2007 21:50:36 +0000

Snake oil lol. apply daily and it is proven to stop p2p lawsuits.

This will be huge a new p2p protocol which hopefully will make traffic indistinguishable from regular traffic and be set up in such a way that no user knows what file has been requested by another or what file they are giving.(will make suing far harder)

By: bo

bo — Tue, 30 Oct 2007 18:15:43 +0000

this is extremely interesting. it would be great to have some kind of built-in blocklist at the server, constantly updated, and with (obviously) some kind of redundancy against malicious attacks.