Do an OiNK, says Quebec’s ADISQ
p2pnet news | P2P:- The heretical suggestion by Quebec’s ADISQ (Association québécoise de l’industrie du disque, du spectacle et de la vidéo) that suing file sharers may not be a good idea has been picked up by Billboard.
ADISQ co-founder Paul Dupont-Hébert described the threat of illegal downloading “as if we’re in a school room without supervision,” says the story.
Instead, do an Oink: go after torrent trackers, recommends ADISQ.
“The deeply flawed anti-OiNK campaign launched by Warner Music, EMI, Vivendi Universal and Sony BMG’s IFPI, looked good in the lamescream media,” p2pnet posted, going on, “But when you get down to brass tacks, the only good it did was to spur P2P supporters on to greater feats of innovation.
“The (International Federation of Phartographic Industry) wasted two years of tax-payer money and scarce police resources to bring down Alan Ellis’ OiNK, website which allowed users to search for music.”
ADISQ executive director Solange Drouin, “admitted the local legal download market had been slow to take off, but said lawsuits were not the solution to the problem,” says Billboard, going on:
“Drouin added that ADISQ would like to see Internet service providers like Bell Canada’s Sympatico service, and Montreal-based Videotron Inc give priority to Canadian content.”
ADISQ says only 1.7% of music sold in Quebec came from legal downloading services, a much lower rate than the estimated 6% in English-speaking Canada, adds the story.
Also See:
Billboard – Lawsuits Not The Solution, Says Quebec’s ADISQ, October 31, 2007
torrent trackers – ADISQ: ‘move against Torrent trackers’, October 31, 2007
p2pnet – OiNK, BoINK, what.cd and waffles.fm, October 31, 2007
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November 1st, 2007 at 9:13 am
I live in the province of Quebec and i think Quebec artist are lucky enough to have the respect of the population.All “Quebecois” knows that the artist,musicians needs their income to survive so the people just go buy their stuff because its a small market for french musicians in Quebec.
Musicians should start to think about selling their music by them selfs,they dont need big corporate mafia’s to take their money.All the money should go to the musicians…
When i see that only 1$ of the price of a cd go back to the artist,its obvious that artist are getting screwed…
Artist does not need big corporate mafia’s,Big corporate mafia’s needs the artist!
November 1st, 2007 at 11:13 am
ahh, cmon now don’t be saying the labels dont earn the 90+% of the cost of a cd they get.
After all there is all the costs associated with making a cd:
the cd’s themselves (and we all know how expensive they are, whoaaa need to morgate the house to get a spindle)
the cover art
the cost of delvery to stores
the cost of promotions
the $1500 lunches (hmmm or was it more?)
the cost of cocaine
the cost of the VP’s assistance assistance pool
the expense of buying all the politicians
November 1st, 2007 at 5:45 pm
Can anyone send these ADISQ pigs this post?
http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13810
November 1st, 2007 at 11:52 pm
Taking down Oink was a waste of time. Instead of one place now I found about 20 more I can now go to.
November 3rd, 2007 at 12:43 pm
Jay: Isn’t it great!!!
I wake up every morning and stroll through the many web sites offering up all the latest tv shows, movies and full length Cd’s
all for the low low price of FREE!!!!
I came on-line in 1996 with a 28K Dial-Up Modem, I never thought the internet would become this HUGE Bazaar of Free Stuff.
It sure has saved me a ton of money.
I never dreamt, Id be surfing at 15 Mb either
I wonder what it will be like 10 years down the road.
July 11th, 2008 at 2:12 pm
msg sent to all members today
Google translation :
On 11 July 2008
Dear Members,
It is with regret that we decided to consent to an injunction aimed torrent our site, our company and myself as president of Québectorrent.com Inc.
I took the initiative in this release in order to thank you for your support and support since the opening of the site, as well as throughout the judicial proceedings. Without you, this whole adventure would not have been so rewarding. Together we have helped give visibility to our artists with our community by making available a platform for disseminating alternative cheaper and equally effective for a greater influence of their works.
I also want to explain my decision not to challenge the procedures for a permanent injunction had been served on us and against which we have always expressed our disagreement. The upheavals have caused sites such as “torrent” and “p2p” had a significant impact on trade and distribution of music, movies and any works protected by copyright.
At the time we had to take a decision about defending our interests before the courts, we found that both the recording industry and film, represented by ADISQ and APFTQ, that users and operators sites such as “torrent” and “p2p” were governed by laws outdated and patently non-adapted to current and modern technology.
We also urge our governments to intervene in this area and to legislate so as to reflect current realities and needs of its population. It goes without saying that this reality is not only the interests and needs of distribution companies, which will inevitably adjust to the market. It covers more than ever, consumers of music and movies, without which the industry would not be both affluent today. The legislature must listen to those consumers who are an important part of the population.
Besides, I must respond to how the ADISQ commented on the judgement of the Court.
The vice-president of public affairs and CEO of ADISQ, Mrs. Solange Drouin, commented that “it was a first major victory for the local industry against a torrent site and that other suits against such download sites could be considered. ”
At the time the procedures we were served, we hired a prosecutor who, for health reasons, had to stop representing us last March. Thereafter, in early May, we hired the law firm Fetch Legal Ltd.. to represent us. Our prosecutors have indicated then that the status of the dossier was limited, and that we should require a court delay to enable them to state the cause, and position us well in our defence. An expertise was needed to counter that of ADISQ and the APFTQ, and a defence should be filed on record. It remained only two months before the hearing. Our prosecutors have recommended to submit a request for surrender of the hearing. ADISQ and the APFTQ were opposed to this request. As a result, and following arguments ADISQ and the APFTQ, the court refused our request for surrender, and ordered the trial as planned in July 2008.
Given this state of affairs in the best interest of members who have supported us financially and cause sites such as “torrent” and “p2p” we preferred not to present defence rather than defend ourselves inappropriately. It goes without saying that our intention was to avoid a legal precedent detrimental to any litigation of the same nature. We believe we have made the right decision on this aspect, as pointed out aptly Tristan Péloquin in his blog on 10 July. We are surprised by the position of the ADISQ and the APFTQ to the effect that this ruling is a precedent, because in fact there has never been a substantive debate about the issues raised by the dispute.
Ultimately, it was never our intention, in connection with the operation of our site, to allow the violation of copyrights, as claimed the allegations contained in judicial proceedings. We are convinced that the Court could make an interesting decision in the case if she had to assess contradictory positions, which it did not have to…
We still intend to abide by the terms of the injunction issued against us, but wanted to correct certain statements made publicly in recent days.
Sébastien Brûlotte, president of Québectorrent.com