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	<title>Comments on: Investigate TV holy rollers: Grassley</title>
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		<title>By: bill page</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13914/comment-page-1#comment-904971</link>
		<dc:creator>bill page</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 01:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>david copperfield.com
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>david copperfield.com<br />
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have a cool  safe happy Christmas EVERYONE  and i pray that Jesus  HAS  A COOL  birthday<br />
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13914/comment-page-1#comment-904962</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 00:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i pray everyone on planet earth and outer space get saved
in Christ allways fat bill page  illusionist magician in fun
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i pray everyone on planet earth and outer space get saved<br />
in Christ allways fat bill page  illusionist magician in fun<br />
same bat time same bat channel</p>
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		<title>By: Blogking2253</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13914/comment-page-1#comment-416845</link>
		<dc:creator>Blogking2253</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 18:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is another perspective on this that you may want to consider. It&#039;s a blog post called &quot;Kenneth Copeland&#039;s Jet&quot;

http://dougwead.wordpress.com/2008/04/12/kenneth-copelands-jet/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is another perspective on this that you may want to consider. It&#8217;s a blog post called &#8220;Kenneth Copeland&#8217;s Jet&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://dougwead.wordpress.com/2008/04/12/kenneth-copelands-jet/" rel="nofollow">http://dougwead.wordpress.com/2008/04/12/kenneth-copelands-jet/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tired</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13914/comment-page-1#comment-416018</link>
		<dc:creator>Tired</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 03:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m tired of reading about people hating on these ministries.and about the so called scandals.
God will judge them if they are wrong. Our job is to pray for them not judge them.
If you won&#039;t to talk about corruption look in to the government&#039;s dealing with the native American.
A war that is still going on. They took this land in the name of God with the act&#039;s of the devil. Killing,
Plundering,and stealing. Did he(God) not say in his word &quot;Thou shell not&quot;. If there is corruption in these ministries then let God deal with them. Work out you own salvation with fear and trembling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m tired of reading about people hating on these ministries.and about the so called scandals.<br />
God will judge them if they are wrong. Our job is to pray for them not judge them.<br />
If you won&#8217;t to talk about corruption look in to the government&#8217;s dealing with the native American.<br />
A war that is still going on. They took this land in the name of God with the act&#8217;s of the devil. Killing,<br />
Plundering,and stealing. Did he(God) not say in his word &#8220;Thou shell not&#8221;. If there is corruption in these ministries then let God deal with them. Work out you own salvation with fear and trembling.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Glynn</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13914/comment-page-1#comment-243730</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred Glynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 16:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A person should be free to think whatever he wishes.  That&#039;s what religion is.  But, when a person or group of people buy a plot of land and erect a building, that imposes a burden on the local fire and police departments and those who wish that building to be protected should pay for that protection.  That&#039;s only fair.  Also, whatever money a minister, priest, or rabbi receives should be taxed as ordinary income.  Contributions to churches should not be tax-deductible.  If people who give to churches receive something of value, then they should pay whatever the local prevailing sales-tax is on their &quot;contributions.&quot;

If, as the Bible says, God created the heavens and the earth and the oceans and the forbears of every living thing in six days, why is it that He cannot pay for the buildings where people kiss his a** and the salaries and wages of those who are involved in the promotion of all such nonsense?  See Exodus 26 where it says, essentially, &quot;And the Lord spake unto Moses . . . tell the Israelite people that I want gifts . . . and the acceptable gifts are: gold and silver and gems and tanned dolphin skins and red and purple linen and fine oil . . .&quot; while, at the foot of the mountain there were two and a half million thirsty, hungry refugees waiting to hear from Moses what relief the Lord was going to supply . . .

Those who are familiar with the history of the Ancient Near East know that Canaan was under continuous control by Egypt from around 1550 BCE, when the Egyptians drove the Hyksos out of Avaris and conquered them at Sharuhen, a few miles south of Gaza, until 1141 BCE when Rameses VI withdrew Egyptian troops from Canaan and Midian to put down a civil war at home.  Thus there could have been no violent conquest of Canaan as reported in the various biblical accounts.  Without the conquest by Hebrew/Israelite refugees, the biblical Moses becomes a fictional or allegorical character.

In Canaan the peasants staged a relatively peaceful revolt which ended circa 1025 BCE when they elected Saul as the first king of Israel.  In Midian, the copper miners at Timna tore down the stone temple where they had had to worship the Egyptian goddess, Hathor, gouged a dozen shallow holes in the stone floor where Hathor&#039;s temple had stood, inserted wooden poles to support a roof of red and yellow cloth made of wool and flax, and began the worship of a hitherto unheard of invisible desert warrior god, Yahweh . . . the rest--though not all of it--is history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A person should be free to think whatever he wishes.  That&#8217;s what religion is.  But, when a person or group of people buy a plot of land and erect a building, that imposes a burden on the local fire and police departments and those who wish that building to be protected should pay for that protection.  That&#8217;s only fair.  Also, whatever money a minister, priest, or rabbi receives should be taxed as ordinary income.  Contributions to churches should not be tax-deductible.  If people who give to churches receive something of value, then they should pay whatever the local prevailing sales-tax is on their &#8220;contributions.&#8221;</p>
<p>If, as the Bible says, God created the heavens and the earth and the oceans and the forbears of every living thing in six days, why is it that He cannot pay for the buildings where people kiss his a** and the salaries and wages of those who are involved in the promotion of all such nonsense?  See Exodus 26 where it says, essentially, &#8220;And the Lord spake unto Moses . . . tell the Israelite people that I want gifts . . . and the acceptable gifts are: gold and silver and gems and tanned dolphin skins and red and purple linen and fine oil . . .&#8221; while, at the foot of the mountain there were two and a half million thirsty, hungry refugees waiting to hear from Moses what relief the Lord was going to supply . . .</p>
<p>Those who are familiar with the history of the Ancient Near East know that Canaan was under continuous control by Egypt from around 1550 BCE, when the Egyptians drove the Hyksos out of Avaris and conquered them at Sharuhen, a few miles south of Gaza, until 1141 BCE when Rameses VI withdrew Egyptian troops from Canaan and Midian to put down a civil war at home.  Thus there could have been no violent conquest of Canaan as reported in the various biblical accounts.  Without the conquest by Hebrew/Israelite refugees, the biblical Moses becomes a fictional or allegorical character.</p>
<p>In Canaan the peasants staged a relatively peaceful revolt which ended circa 1025 BCE when they elected Saul as the first king of Israel.  In Midian, the copper miners at Timna tore down the stone temple where they had had to worship the Egyptian goddess, Hathor, gouged a dozen shallow holes in the stone floor where Hathor&#8217;s temple had stood, inserted wooden poles to support a roof of red and yellow cloth made of wool and flax, and began the worship of a hitherto unheard of invisible desert warrior god, Yahweh . . . the rest&#8211;though not all of it&#8211;is history.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13914/comment-page-1#comment-208340</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 03:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;m not sure how much we should draw a comparison between today&#039;s ministers and jesus and his disciples. jesus&#039; work was to prepare the world for the church to set up shop till he comes back... you know die on the cross and rise from the dead. that is not the calling of the church today. it is to go into all the world. the poor world and the rich world. you don&#039;t reach the world on a beggars salary. how  would you live if you had say 10 best selling books published. how do you live today? do you spend most of your salary say making $50,000. well if you made say $500,000 you would still live to the max of your salary. and by the way the only job specific disciple mentioned was the treasurer of jesus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;m not sure how much we should draw a comparison between today&#8217;s ministers and jesus and his disciples. jesus&#8217; work was to prepare the world for the church to set up shop till he comes back&#8230; you know die on the cross and rise from the dead. that is not the calling of the church today. it is to go into all the world. the poor world and the rich world. you don&#8217;t reach the world on a beggars salary. how  would you live if you had say 10 best selling books published. how do you live today? do you spend most of your salary say making $50,000. well if you made say $500,000 you would still live to the max of your salary. and by the way the only job specific disciple mentioned was the treasurer of jesus.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13914/comment-page-1#comment-208026</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 16:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A cute little saying. if God didnot want them sheared. he would not have made them sheep.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A cute little saying. if God didnot want them sheared. he would not have made them sheep.</p>
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		<title>By: @ readers write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13914/comment-page-1#comment-207171</link>
		<dc:creator>@ readers write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 15:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have spent the last 6 month working on the road. I too appreciate a good hotel and a comfortable car. But what is listed in this article goes well above and beyond that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have spent the last 6 month working on the road. I too appreciate a good hotel and a comfortable car. But what is listed in this article goes well above and beyond that.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13914/comment-page-1#comment-207143</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 14:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some are corrupt but some of those costs are in principle reasonable. e.g If you go some where to preach staying in a hotel (in a regular room) and a hotel bill for laundry is a must. Having a comfortable car for long journeys or plain tickets is also a must. House and pension plan are also very reasonable if there value is not say 2x the national average. Other than this most of the money made should go towards gods work.

We don&#039;t expect them to live as bums but within reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some are corrupt but some of those costs are in principle reasonable. e.g If you go some where to preach staying in a hotel (in a regular room) and a hotel bill for laundry is a must. Having a comfortable car for long journeys or plain tickets is also a must. House and pension plan are also very reasonable if there value is not say 2x the national average. Other than this most of the money made should go towards gods work.</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t expect them to live as bums but within reason.</p>
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		<title>By: Abdullah Housyafatha</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13914/comment-page-1#comment-207127</link>
		<dc:creator>Abdullah Housyafatha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 13:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God is the voice in peoples minds.
You know, the voice that tells them to do bad things and sometimes good things.
Other, non-sociopaths, call it a conscience.

Is Gods to-do list written down somewhere?
And could I have a price list please, RRP preferable.
Oh, that&#039;s just dandy, he&#039;s an incorporeal being and cannot hold a pen so I&#039;ll just take your word for it. Ha.

Why should anyone trust anyone who wants money to &#039;save your soul&#039;?
Sounds like the devil is doing big business over there ;)

&quot;The richer the clergy, the thicker the flock&quot;

What do they sell anyway? Goodwill?
With Tax exemptions and an intangible product, the ultimate pyramid scheme for the lazy, the liars and the cheats perhaps? 

Wake up sinners, don&#039;t go to church and switch off the TV! 
God told me so ;)

&quot;To the lions with them!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God is the voice in peoples minds.<br />
You know, the voice that tells them to do bad things and sometimes good things.<br />
Other, non-sociopaths, call it a conscience.</p>
<p>Is Gods to-do list written down somewhere?<br />
And could I have a price list please, RRP preferable.<br />
Oh, that&#8217;s just dandy, he&#8217;s an incorporeal being and cannot hold a pen so I&#8217;ll just take your word for it. Ha.</p>
<p>Why should anyone trust anyone who wants money to &#8217;save your soul&#8217;?<br />
Sounds like the devil is doing big business over there <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&#8220;The richer the clergy, the thicker the flock&#8221;</p>
<p>What do they sell anyway? Goodwill?<br />
With Tax exemptions and an intangible product, the ultimate pyramid scheme for the lazy, the liars and the cheats perhaps? </p>
<p>Wake up sinners, don&#8217;t go to church and switch off the TV!<br />
God told me so <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&#8220;To the lions with them!&#8221;</p>
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