Put up or shut up, RIAA told
p2pnet news | RIAA News:- In another potentially huge set-back for Warner Music, EMI, Vivendi Universal and Sony BMG’s RIAA, in the case against the George Washington University “John Doe” students, the judge has ordered the plaintiffs to show cause why the ex parte discovery order shouldn’t be vacated, why the subpoena shouldn’t be quashed, and why the ruling shouldn’t apply to ALL of the defendants.
This could also be another black-eye for Matt ‘The Dentist’ Oppenheim, described by Recording Industry vs The People’s Ray Beckerman as a, “mystery figure, whose shadowy role in these cases is quite problematic”.
Oppenhein used to work for the RIAA and although he left some time back, he continually shows up in the background of RIAA cases.
In Arista v Does 1-19, the judge sitting for this District of Columbia case, being handled for the RIAA by Oppenheim personally, decided on her own initiative to issue an Order to Show Cause, and ordering the plaintiffs to do so on or before November 29.
Definitely stay tuned..
Also See:
“John Doe” students – RIAA’s Matt Oppenheim: the bad penny?, November 14, 2007
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November 16th, 2007 at 7:10 pm
Good! Now the RIAA have to show all their cards or fold….it is hat simple.
Either show cause or have the case dismissed.
And this COULD set a legal precedant for other cases to follow.
November 17th, 2007 at 3:59 am
Good for a judge with the balls to stand up and do what’s right. If the RIAA has real evidence, make them show it, shots in the dark don’t often coincide with “innocent until proven guilty.”
November 17th, 2007 at 4:54 am
Imagine that! Clearly the RIAA is carefully prosecuting specific cases in an effort to make several concerted points which then can be considered common law once achived. Thus, the Judge has seen through this strategy and is now asking to see all the cards. The RIAA is neither good or evil, it represents the interests of the industry (article gets kudos for actually calling out the companies that the RIAA represents). The problem is that with business now adays, there is no ‘moral’ compliment; they push issues to the letter of the law, and when that doesn’t produce profits, they push the letter and go for the jugular. Problem is that the public will get what it wants; and that is free or near to free music without DRM and without constraints. Until the industry realizes that, their attempts to stem the flow of piracy will be like the war on drugs; completely rediculous.
November 17th, 2007 at 11:46 am
This peace of crap of Oppenheim is marqued.
November 17th, 2007 at 11:53 am
“The RIAA is neither good or evil” We are niether good or evil but we represent the interests of the United State of America. The United State of Americ is the people and it is niot the US governement that should be at the serrvice of the United State of America. We are niether good or evil we are just going to get ride of all theses parasites at the RIAA/MPAA, Vivendi/Universal, Sony/BMG. EMI, Time Warner and others Accomplices. Nothing to worry about.
November 17th, 2007 at 7:07 pm
This is just a start … and to quote a noted figure WSC – “This is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning” ….
The RIAA and the MPAA are caught in a dilemma as the age of the ‘Digital Gutenberg’ has dawned and the attempts to secure the ethereal and intangible that make up sound and sight are now much akin to the old patriarchs of the church trying to control access to scripture and who could copy or disseminate it …
I find it absolutely inconceivable that such entities as the RIAA and the MPAA with a cadre of old media moguls and their sleazy hangers on are so ‘blind to reality’ … One would think that these organizations would have a highly intelligent group of people who would be on their game for the future of such content and would have been intellectually astute enough to see the “mene mene tekel upharsin “ that was before them …
Perhaps it is not so amazing … we should remember that the dinosaurs of another era also fail to read the winds of change that so completely eliminated their kind …
So it Goes ….
November 17th, 2007 at 8:13 pm
Yeah, the US should take some worm pills to get rid of these parasites… too bad us foreigners see your country going to crap from a one-great nation being led downward by belly-infesting scavengers and their laywers… ethic-less big business runs your country now, not “you the people” any more. Self-evident.
November 18th, 2007 at 12:09 pm
http://recordingindustryvspeople.blogspot.com/2007/11/judge-orders-riaa-to-show-cause-why-ex.html { there you find a link to the judges decision.
November 18th, 2007 at 7:22 pm
The RIAA is neither good or evil, but you don’t have to be good or evil to suck like a straw.
November 19th, 2007 at 11:50 am
“The RIAA is neither good or evil…”
This comment came up in a couple of posts. I’m no bible thumper, but that kind of moral relativism is no serving anybody’s
November 19th, 2007 at 12:03 pm
Gaaa!!! I hate when the browser flips out!!!
Now as I was trying to say, that kind of moral relativism is not serving anyone’s interests. Let’s call a spade a spade here. The RIAA IS evil. They have been systematically and willfully manipulating the legal system and the law for years with callous disregard for the consequences. Their drift net “sue our client’s customers” campaign is evil in so many ways. The “it’s just business” thing will JUST not wash anymore. If there’s anything unfair about the way the RIAA is being characterized, it’s singling them out. In truth there are a whole bunch of big biz bad actors out there who’s ONLY objective is to TAKE. Take at any cost to others. It’s going to ruin us.
November 19th, 2007 at 12:47 pm
Sorry Matt! I am going to eradicate you. I am nor good or evil I am just doing what my instint told me to do. I short I just work there. Who am I?
November 19th, 2007 at 9:04 pm
They sue their own customers, and the RIAA wonders why they are losing sales?
You reap what you sow. That law has never been repealed and never will be.