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	<title>Comments on: UMG&#8217;s Morris: another nail in the Big 4&#8217;s coffin</title>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14133#comment-219083</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 22:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14133#comment-219083</guid>
		<description>Through all the loops and hoops that major labels have had as requirements for any license to sell, one thing has shown to be consistent. The same theme is played as well with law enforcement, with dealing with ISPs, you name it. 

That is you pay for it for us, you figure out how to do what we want as the requirement to sell. The idea is to get the other guy to pay for what you want done. Law enforcement is now being played for the same, prosecute for us so we don't have to spend the time and money. For ISPs, you should take down without us having to do the filing to say it is ours. 

It has been the bane of the on-line sales stores. DRM has effectively killed whatever chance they had of selling product. So much so that British sales are begging for it to go before Christmas sales so that they might stand a chance of making money. As long as it is the other guy's money, what skin is it off the majors? Like it or no, iPod music sales have shown that it is DRM-less files that are sought after, even with a higher price. 

Now figure this. It costs the music industry to include DRM as a license to use it. So they drop the use and save money but raise the sales price to sell it with out DRM. The customer already figures the MP3 is over-priced for the product and that makes just selling them for a buck a hard sell for the majority. 

So now they want Unis to supply the watchdog for P2P usage but where is the funding for this? Worse they are being told to do a form of corporate welfare by supplying a sales point. Wouldn't it be nice if you could get the same for whatever you were selling? 

Then they want the ISPs to do the watchdog on files, preventing the P2P transfer. Doesn't matter to them if it is a legal download or not. Cox and Comcast are already facing legal problems because of the efforts to impede P2P by blocking the applications. 

Because of the terrible publicity and expense their sue'em all has created, they are wanting DOJ to do their  policing for them. This way DOJ gets the negative publicity and the expense and they can sit back to enjoy the ride at taxpayers expense. 

All of this shows the majors don't have a clue on how to come up with a new model that capitalizes on P2P. They are sure that something must be done, so someone should figure it out or do it for them. Again a sure sign that the heads of the majors have no clue on how to make selling attractive. Because the CEOs of these organizations have no clue how to deal with it, it makes the majors headless where they need to be getting info on how to turn it around. 

The path of the dinosaur didn't change, right up to their deaths. Here we see the same actions again, as history repeats itself over and over. You could even advance the time line and look at the American Revolution and the business model would look near the same when it comes to protectionist measures trying to be enforced by the entrenched.  

What is easily forgotten is that the US during it's early days had no copyright laws that actually prevented reprint and republishing of existing works. It was a common complaint by other countries during the time that their works were translated into English and sold here under different names and they could not enforce their copyrights. 

Then Hollywood is not exactly pure either. To dodge the Edison patents on projectors, film making, cameras, etc. the then established movie studios moved to California where they could not so easily be taken to court over patent infringements. 

So it's always been "Do as I say, not as I do". Of course, Edgar Bronfman wouldn't know about anything that resembles such line of thought now would he?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Through all the loops and hoops that major labels have had as requirements for any license to sell, one thing has shown to be consistent. The same theme is played as well with law enforcement, with dealing with ISPs, you name it. </p>
<p>That is you pay for it for us, you figure out how to do what we want as the requirement to sell. The idea is to get the other guy to pay for what you want done. Law enforcement is now being played for the same, prosecute for us so we don&#8217;t have to spend the time and money. For ISPs, you should take down without us having to do the filing to say it is ours. </p>
<p>It has been the bane of the on-line sales stores. DRM has effectively killed whatever chance they had of selling product. So much so that British sales are begging for it to go before Christmas sales so that they might stand a chance of making money. As long as it is the other guy&#8217;s money, what skin is it off the majors? Like it or no, iPod music sales have shown that it is DRM-less files that are sought after, even with a higher price. </p>
<p>Now figure this. It costs the music industry to include DRM as a license to use it. So they drop the use and save money but raise the sales price to sell it with out DRM. The customer already figures the MP3 is over-priced for the product and that makes just selling them for a buck a hard sell for the majority. </p>
<p>So now they want Unis to supply the watchdog for P2P usage but where is the funding for this? Worse they are being told to do a form of corporate welfare by supplying a sales point. Wouldn&#8217;t it be nice if you could get the same for whatever you were selling? </p>
<p>Then they want the ISPs to do the watchdog on files, preventing the P2P transfer. Doesn&#8217;t matter to them if it is a legal download or not. Cox and Comcast are already facing legal problems because of the efforts to impede P2P by blocking the applications. </p>
<p>Because of the terrible publicity and expense their sue&#8217;em all has created, they are wanting DOJ to do their  policing for them. This way DOJ gets the negative publicity and the expense and they can sit back to enjoy the ride at taxpayers expense. </p>
<p>All of this shows the majors don&#8217;t have a clue on how to come up with a new model that capitalizes on P2P. They are sure that something must be done, so someone should figure it out or do it for them. Again a sure sign that the heads of the majors have no clue on how to make selling attractive. Because the CEOs of these organizations have no clue how to deal with it, it makes the majors headless where they need to be getting info on how to turn it around. </p>
<p>The path of the dinosaur didn&#8217;t change, right up to their deaths. Here we see the same actions again, as history repeats itself over and over. You could even advance the time line and look at the American Revolution and the business model would look near the same when it comes to protectionist measures trying to be enforced by the entrenched.  </p>
<p>What is easily forgotten is that the US during it&#8217;s early days had no copyright laws that actually prevented reprint and republishing of existing works. It was a common complaint by other countries during the time that their works were translated into English and sold here under different names and they could not enforce their copyrights. </p>
<p>Then Hollywood is not exactly pure either. To dodge the Edison patents on projectors, film making, cameras, etc. the then established movie studios moved to California where they could not so easily be taken to court over patent infringements. </p>
<p>So it&#8217;s always been &#8220;Do as I say, not as I do&#8221;. Of course, Edgar Bronfman wouldn&#8217;t know about anything that resembles such line of thought now would he?</p>
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		<title>By: jbond</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14133#comment-218975</link>
		<author>jbond</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 19:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14133#comment-218975</guid>
		<description>One thing bothers me about all this. Since when were the record companies in the retail business? As wholesalers, it's really not their job to be figuring out retail models. So the problem here isn't that Morris couldn't work out what to do. It's that whenever anyone came to him with a new idea, he and his advisors couldn't see how it could work, and made ridiculous demands that ultimately buried it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing bothers me about all this. Since when were the record companies in the retail business? As wholesalers, it&#8217;s really not their job to be figuring out retail models. So the problem here isn&#8217;t that Morris couldn&#8217;t work out what to do. It&#8217;s that whenever anyone came to him with a new idea, he and his advisors couldn&#8217;t see how it could work, and made ridiculous demands that ultimately buried it.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14133#comment-218936</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14133#comment-218936</guid>
		<description>"i thought grandpa munster (al lewis) was dead."

Not yet but this is a work in progress just as for UMG.

Continue the boycott!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;i thought grandpa munster (al lewis) was dead.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not yet but this is a work in progress just as for UMG.</p>
<p>Continue the boycott!</p>
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		<title>By: Monkey D. Luffy</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14133#comment-218934</link>
		<author>Monkey D. Luffy</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14133#comment-218934</guid>
		<description>Another Dinosaur, screaming in rage, flailing out uselessly while slowly being sucked down into the tar pit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another Dinosaur, screaming in rage, flailing out uselessly while slowly being sucked down into the tar pit.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14133#comment-218917</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14133#comment-218917</guid>
		<description>WHY ON EARTH DO THESE PEOPLE HAVE JOBS?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WHY ON EARTH DO THESE PEOPLE HAVE JOBS?!</p>
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		<title>By: catflap</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14133#comment-218867</link>
		<author>catflap</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 15:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14133#comment-218867</guid>
		<description>i thought grandpa munster (al lewis) was dead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i thought grandpa munster (al lewis) was dead.</p>
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