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	<title>Comments on: RIAA may be spying on students: Oregon AG</title>
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		<title>By: Dwayne Charrington</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14164#comment-230758</link>
		<author>Dwayne Charrington</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 04:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14164#comment-230758</guid>
		<description>Things are getting out of hand in the USA. Although I am from Australia when things like this happen in the USA it is very frightening considering nothing as crazy and unethical has really happened here... yet. And couple that with the fact ARIA wants to rule the world and not just America, Australia and other countries by influencing other countries to sue for royalties and copyright infringments that may, or may not have happened. I have written a couple of articles relating to Bittorrent and Coypright Infringement on my blog. I also have solutions for these problems as well as my own opinions.

http://www.dwaynecharrington.com.


- Dwayne.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Things are getting out of hand in the USA. Although I am from Australia when things like this happen in the USA it is very frightening considering nothing as crazy and unethical has really happened here&#8230; yet. And couple that with the fact ARIA wants to rule the world and not just America, Australia and other countries by influencing other countries to sue for royalties and copyright infringments that may, or may not have happened. I have written a couple of articles relating to Bittorrent and Coypright Infringement on my blog. I also have solutions for these problems as well as my own opinions.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dwaynecharrington.com." rel="nofollow">http://www.dwaynecharrington.com.</a></p>
<p>- Dwayne.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14164#comment-223219</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 14:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14164#comment-223219</guid>
		<description>"became the first to American institutions to jointly make"

Should read: "the first two American"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;became the first to American institutions to jointly make&#8221;</p>
<p>Should read: &#8220;the first two American&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Seriously?</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14164#comment-222345</link>
		<author>Seriously?</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 20:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14164#comment-222345</guid>
		<description>@Free Thinker - This isn't about denying anybody a voice, this is about stopping illegal searches by a large, dying corporation on college students.  The University has a responsibility to protect their students' privacy from anyone who does not have a legal right to that information.  So far the RIAA has not shown that they have a legal right to that information, and the University of Oregon and the Oregon AG are calling them on it.

That they get away with it in so many universities is disheartening.

What the RIAA is doing is the equivalent of Walmart telling the UofO that a student in their dorms stole a candy bar, and the UofO needs to search all the rooms and find out which one it is.  

Nobody would stand for that, yet what the RIAA has been doing is exactly the same.  Even down to the question of how in the heck would you know which candybar is legit and which was stolen?

The whole thing is rediculous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Free Thinker - This isn&#8217;t about denying anybody a voice, this is about stopping illegal searches by a large, dying corporation on college students.  The University has a responsibility to protect their students&#8217; privacy from anyone who does not have a legal right to that information.  So far the RIAA has not shown that they have a legal right to that information, and the University of Oregon and the Oregon AG are calling them on it.</p>
<p>That they get away with it in so many universities is disheartening.</p>
<p>What the RIAA is doing is the equivalent of Walmart telling the UofO that a student in their dorms stole a candy bar, and the UofO needs to search all the rooms and find out which one it is.  </p>
<p>Nobody would stand for that, yet what the RIAA has been doing is exactly the same.  Even down to the question of how in the heck would you know which candybar is legit and which was stolen?</p>
<p>The whole thing is rediculous.</p>
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		<title>By: Free Thinker</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14164#comment-222211</link>
		<author>Free Thinker</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 18:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14164#comment-222211</guid>
		<description>Would you deny the students a voice??! Flipping heck!

Oh and your personal attacks looks quite bad on you. Please do stop it, now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would you deny the students a voice??! Flipping heck!</p>
<p>Oh and your personal attacks looks quite bad on you. Please do stop it, now.</p>
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		<title>By: Mostly Harmless</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14164#comment-222174</link>
		<author>Mostly Harmless</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 17:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14164#comment-222174</guid>
		<description>FairnessForAll...  "...giving the students an opportunity to explain their actions to the RIAA..."

Do you live under a bridge and eat little children?

I suppose when people are abducted and sold into slavery it is an opportunity for a new career for them...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FairnessForAll&#8230;  &#8220;&#8230;giving the students an opportunity to explain their actions to the RIAA&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Do you live under a bridge and eat little children?</p>
<p>I suppose when people are abducted and sold into slavery it is an opportunity for a new career for them&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: FairnessForAll</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14164#comment-221997</link>
		<author>FairnessForAll</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 12:59:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14164#comment-221997</guid>
		<description>Well, I'm sorry, but I don't see what the university's problem is. What's wrong with giving the students an opportunity to explain their actions to the RIAA?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;m sorry, but I don&#8217;t see what the university&#8217;s problem is. What&#8217;s wrong with giving the students an opportunity to explain their actions to the RIAA?</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14164#comment-221351</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 02:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14164#comment-221351</guid>
		<description>"How many schools conduct “locker searches” or dorm room raids to find out who did something the dean didnt like."

I've only know that to happen in high schools.  Don't know of any universities that do that (or even have lockers other than in a gym) for that matter.  UofO, being a university, not a high scool (although Oregon State University may differ in their opinion).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;How many schools conduct “locker searches” or dorm room raids to find out who did something the dean didnt like.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve only know that to happen in high schools.  Don&#8217;t know of any universities that do that (or even have lockers other than in a gym) for that matter.  UofO, being a university, not a high scool (although Oregon State University may differ in their opinion).</p>
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		<title>By: EH</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14164#comment-220940</link>
		<author>EH</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 18:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14164#comment-220940</guid>
		<description>Reader's Write: As egregious as that behavior is, it's not germane to the topic at hand. There's a difference when the relationship is between the school and its enrolled students from the actions of an outside entity toward the students. In one there is a legal relationship that includes liabilities, in the other there is a random entity outside of the school attempting to establish a legal relationship and liability with a group of students. These are not the same thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reader&#8217;s Write: As egregious as that behavior is, it&#8217;s not germane to the topic at hand. There&#8217;s a difference when the relationship is between the school and its enrolled students from the actions of an outside entity toward the students. In one there is a legal relationship that includes liabilities, in the other there is a random entity outside of the school attempting to establish a legal relationship and liability with a group of students. These are not the same thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14164#comment-220902</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 17:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14164#comment-220902</guid>
		<description>While I hope with all my heart that this situation is resolved in favor of the students as well as the school, I find it ironic that the very methods being critisized as illegal by the school are the very methods schools use against their own students. How many schools conduct "locker searches" or dorm room raids to find out who did something the dean didnt like. No real evidence, just a statement from an anonymous informer or perhaps a feeling the such-and - such a student is a troublemaker. So lacking evidence, they use their own private code of ethics to dig some up. Wouldn't it be great if this incident caused some real reform concerning the privacy rights of students involved in all cases, not just this RIAA rubbish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I hope with all my heart that this situation is resolved in favor of the students as well as the school, I find it ironic that the very methods being critisized as illegal by the school are the very methods schools use against their own students. How many schools conduct &#8220;locker searches&#8221; or dorm room raids to find out who did something the dean didnt like. No real evidence, just a statement from an anonymous informer or perhaps a feeling the such-and - such a student is a troublemaker. So lacking evidence, they use their own private code of ethics to dig some up. Wouldn&#8217;t it be great if this incident caused some real reform concerning the privacy rights of students involved in all cases, not just this RIAA rubbish.</p>
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		<title>By: RayBeckerman</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14164#comment-220882</link>
		<author>RayBeckerman</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 17:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14164#comment-220882</guid>
		<description>This is huge, Jon. 

It's great that the Oregon Attorney General was aware of the Atlantic v. Andersen case, so that they could show the Court how much mischief can be caused by giving these guys the identity information when they can't demonstrate that they actually have a case against someone.

We can thank p2pnet for constantly helping to focus public attention on the plight of Tanya Andersen.

Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is huge, Jon. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s great that the Oregon Attorney General was aware of the Atlantic v. Andersen case, so that they could show the Court how much mischief can be caused by giving these guys the identity information when they can&#8217;t demonstrate that they actually have a case against someone.</p>
<p>We can thank p2pnet for constantly helping to focus public attention on the plight of Tanya Andersen.</p>
<p>Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: SomeDude</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14164#comment-220877</link>
		<author>SomeDude</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 17:24:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14164#comment-220877</guid>
		<description>Maybe Oregon should make an example of the RIAA and their illegal spying.
Put some of the RIAA CEO's behind bars for a few years and see if the music industry will change (one can dream can't they...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe Oregon should make an example of the RIAA and their illegal spying.<br />
Put some of the RIAA CEO&#8217;s behind bars for a few years and see if the music industry will change (one can dream can&#8217;t they&#8230;)</p>
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