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	<title>Comments on: &#8216;maVen&#8217; was Montreal movie pirate</title>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14235/comment-page-1#comment-549062</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 02:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe he did sell maybe he didn&#039;t, i can only point out from a technical point of view that &quot;maVen&quot; TS&#039;s were the best the cost of the cam and significant risk he ran deserves a little pay back in any case (especially when they pay Ben Affleck 12 million for a film that should never have got passed the initial reading of the script). &quot;They&quot; being the company&#039;s that support the riaa/mpaa.

Long live the scene ! you will never stop us all, most fed&#039;s don&#039;t know what a bnc is if it dropped on their foot... good hunting :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe he did sell maybe he didn&#8217;t, i can only point out from a technical point of view that &#8220;maVen&#8221; TS&#8217;s were the best the cost of the cam and significant risk he ran deserves a little pay back in any case (especially when they pay Ben Affleck 12 million for a film that should never have got passed the initial reading of the script). &#8220;They&#8221; being the company&#8217;s that support the riaa/mpaa.</p>
<p>Long live the scene ! you will never stop us all, most fed&#8217;s don&#8217;t know what a bnc is if it dropped on their foot&#8230; good hunting <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14235/comment-page-1#comment-229091</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 20:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always assumed they did it for prestige rather than money. Maybe I&#039;m naive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always assumed they did it for prestige rather than money. Maybe I&#8217;m naive.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14235/comment-page-1#comment-229079</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 20:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People are making the mistake of assuming what they are saying is fact, and that he sold them for money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People are making the mistake of assuming what they are saying is fact, and that he sold them for money.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14235/comment-page-1#comment-229059</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 20:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;According to the police, Geremi Adam had been selling copies of movies on the internet using the alias ‘maVen’ (asking between $300 and $1,000 each), which were then re-sold on the web and the streets.&quot;

Why would anyone buy it when they could download it for free? Authorities inventing lies to justify the expense / resources used to snare him? Maven was a scene group, they can all be downloaded for free. I smell deception!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;According to the police, Geremi Adam had been selling copies of movies on the internet using the alias ‘maVen’ (asking between $300 and $1,000 each), which were then re-sold on the web and the streets.&#8221;</p>
<p>Why would anyone buy it when they could download it for free? Authorities inventing lies to justify the expense / resources used to snare him? Maven was a scene group, they can all be downloaded for free. I smell deception!!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14235/comment-page-1#comment-228561</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 05:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think $300~$1000 is for the original that he sold to piracy groups who then burns more for sale? It&#039;s somewhat worth it for the risk and digital enhancing?
Then someone who bought the copy uploaded online.

But man, how retarded is this guy to go back recording again after getting caught once?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think $300~$1000 is for the original that he sold to piracy groups who then burns more for sale? It&#8217;s somewhat worth it for the risk and digital enhancing?<br />
Then someone who bought the copy uploaded online.</p>
<p>But man, how retarded is this guy to go back recording again after getting caught once?</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14235/comment-page-1#comment-228531</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 03:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cant see how people would pay for cam rips on teh street or at swap meets for anything more then a couple of bucks.  I dont agree with people camming or downloading and then sell it to make a profit.  The odd time someone wanted some music i have i dont take money from them.  I always tell them to check out the music and if you like it go buy the cd cause in the end it will last longer and sound better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cant see how people would pay for cam rips on teh street or at swap meets for anything more then a couple of bucks.  I dont agree with people camming or downloading and then sell it to make a profit.  The odd time someone wanted some music i have i dont take money from them.  I always tell them to check out the music and if you like it go buy the cd cause in the end it will last longer and sound better.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14235/comment-page-1#comment-228485</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 01:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glory ? the sad self deluded geek did it as he thought people would respect him for it , the freeloading thieves dont give a toss , they watch the film or whever and thats the end of it , haha if he goes to jail I dont think there will be a wife or girlfriend to miss him , hes just another sad loser , off to jail and a lifetime of a sore arse and anal tampons is ahead for him .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glory ? the sad self deluded geek did it as he thought people would respect him for it , the freeloading thieves dont give a toss , they watch the film or whever and thats the end of it , haha if he goes to jail I dont think there will be a wife or girlfriend to miss him , hes just another sad loser , off to jail and a lifetime of a sore arse and anal tampons is ahead for him .</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14235/comment-page-1#comment-228354</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 20:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Considering his stuff was posted for free downloads on usenet, its hard to imagine anybody giving him 1000 bucks for his cams. Anybody that wanted to sell copies would just dl a file and make their own copys for free. It sounds like, once again, law enforcement feels they need to exagerate what happened to make the bust look important. 

Use yer head:  if this guy could really make a grand on a cam, wouldn&#039;t there be a whole load of cammers at work, each undercutting the next highest?  These guys do their camming for glory, not money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Considering his stuff was posted for free downloads on usenet, its hard to imagine anybody giving him 1000 bucks for his cams. Anybody that wanted to sell copies would just dl a file and make their own copys for free. It sounds like, once again, law enforcement feels they need to exagerate what happened to make the bust look important. </p>
<p>Use yer head:  if this guy could really make a grand on a cam, wouldn&#8217;t there be a whole load of cammers at work, each undercutting the next highest?  These guys do their camming for glory, not money.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14235/comment-page-1#comment-228268</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 16:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, there&#039;s a world of difference between what this guy did and a paying customer wishing to make a backup of an owned DVD because they just know that the kids are going to scratch it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, there&#8217;s a world of difference between what this guy did and a paying customer wishing to make a backup of an owned DVD because they just know that the kids are going to scratch it.</p>
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		<title>By: catflap</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14235/comment-page-1#comment-228242</link>
		<dc:creator>catflap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 15:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think if he really was selling his versions, then he deserves what he gets - he is a &quot;pirate&quot;.

unlike the majority of filesharers - who have nothing to do with piracy - he was making $300-$1000 per film (according to the above article) by selling them to larger piracy groups who must have made a bundle selling them on the street.

what maVen did (and others still do) unfairly lumps innocent filesharers into the category of &quot;pirate&quot; (in the eyes of the feds), even though p2pers don&#039;t earn a single cent by sharing legally purchased or legally recorded media.

his arrest and subsequent fines and/or prison time should also serve as a lesson and a warning to others who like to &quot;tag&quot; their files with a group name or screen name: &quot;DON&#039;T DO IT!&quot; it&#039;s an open invitation for arrest for scene groups and others who like to compete by identifying themselves to all and sundry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think if he really was selling his versions, then he deserves what he gets &#8211; he is a &#8220;pirate&#8221;.</p>
<p>unlike the majority of filesharers &#8211; who have nothing to do with piracy &#8211; he was making $300-$1000 per film (according to the above article) by selling them to larger piracy groups who must have made a bundle selling them on the street.</p>
<p>what maVen did (and others still do) unfairly lumps innocent filesharers into the category of &#8220;pirate&#8221; (in the eyes of the feds), even though p2pers don&#8217;t earn a single cent by sharing legally purchased or legally recorded media.</p>
<p>his arrest and subsequent fines and/or prison time should also serve as a lesson and a warning to others who like to &#8220;tag&#8221; their files with a group name or screen name: &#8220;DON&#8217;T DO IT!&#8221; it&#8217;s an open invitation for arrest for scene groups and others who like to compete by identifying themselves to all and sundry.</p>
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		<title>By: meth0d</title>
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		<dc:creator>meth0d</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 14:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pwnage</description>
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