And we can’t say the music industry didn’t had it easy. Look at what they offer. Nothing really better than what was recorded on old vinyls 60 years ago. Some may argue it’s even worse. Can you name me an industry that made big profits over 60 years without changing anything major in its model ? I can’t. It’s a shame, I feel like they’re laughing at us. And while these guys were sitting on their big chunks of money, thinking that it would grow forever, some geniuses were working day and night on one of the biggest invention of humanity in the world of communications since printing : Internet. And that was just the beginning, some 15 years ago. In 7 years, it became available for more and more people. Beginning of the millenium, the P2P protocols were invented and evolved. Around 2005, we were already starting to talk about Web 2.0. Youtube came out, bittorrent, TV was available on the net, Mediawiki was invented, opening possibilities that humanity had never known before. And while this was happening, while the new generation was diversifying their methods of communication and the entertainment offer was growing, these guys were sitting on their big pile of money, thinking about who could be the next artist that would allow them to redo the same recipe they’d been doing for years, a recipe that had brought constant and regular profits over more than 60 years : the tubes, the diffusion on radio, videoclips, and then the selling of vinyls, cassettes, or CDs, the show tickets… Music is eternal. Music industry is not. Humans have probably been doing rythmic sounds for 20,000 years now, and you’ve been selling this shit for only 60 years. In the history of music, you are a wink. Music doesn’t need you. You are the last ashes of a civilization that has been burned down, and wind will blow you.

Every Filesharer in the universe needs to Download Ben’s Guide, if you can’t afford the best lawyer, find a way to protect yourself on your own when downloading and sharing.

So all File-Sharers, I am Sending A 2ND P2P distress Call>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please share Ben’s Guide, I am sorry for sounding like a advertiser but I need p2pnet to talk about my guide, Please p2pnet I wanna protect the P2P Communities for no-profit, I wanna protect people from lawsuits, I am here to help.

The RIAA need to take their head out of the sand, and face reality. Physical crap is becoming obsolete, and why go somewhere when you can get what you want at home? Wake up!

I love it. I’ve not bought a music offering in a long time. I’ve went on a boycott and will not support their methods of business. It is nice to hear others feel the same way and the negative publicity generated by the sue’em all is getting the attention it needs in the proper form; which is to say the customers are becoming non-customers. It is my sincere hope to see the music industry as it now exists burned to the ground, lock, stock, and barrel in hopes that what rises from the ashes might be able to hear what the customer wants. Those in charge now haven’t a clue if it deviates from their own desires.

Thank you for the best news I’ve heard today!

And to think, these people are supported by those who call downloading “an ethical breach“.

This is their entire strategy.
Use their financial weight to make their victim cave, so the RIAA won’t
have to show any proof, since they actually have none.

You’ll see be checking out http://recordingindustryvspeople.blogspot.com/
The they have a long history of fighting against showing ANY evidence,
and dropping the case when their hand is forced.

They only keep going if the case is handled by a select few judges, ( judges Trager and Levy, to name a couple ).

In the Jammie Thomas case they won without having to provide ANY evidence that
ANYONE other than themselves downloaded anything.

This is the chief reason they do this in CIVIL court instead of CRIMINAL court

The burden of proof in criminal court would destroy their case.

As long as they have the right judge, they can ‘win’ without proof.

Visit that site :).

You’ll see a WHOLE lot more losses by the RIAA than wins.

( They shouldn’t do the victory dance over Jammie thomas just yet .. that appeal is
in the works ).

First of all, if you want to call yourself a lawyer, you’re going to have to prove it. None of us is required to take your word for it, and I doubt we will.

Second of all, your statement isn’t quite correct. In order to download one EP by Wil Deynes (who gave his permission for the content to be shared), I have to pay $520 in rent, $90 for electricity, $35 for cable internet, and have to have the computer pre-existing. And that’s just for this month. That’s $645 just for one month’s access to the Internet.

Just because I’m not paying the RIAA $15 for a seven-song CD that I may not even enjoy doesn’t mean money didn’t go toward the obtaining of said seven songs. Besides, I’m more likely to actually buy a hard copy of the disk now, because I downloaded it, listened to it, and I like it.

If you claim that file sharing hurts downloads, provide actual documentation representing your claim. I have a hunch that says you won’t be able to, and that you’ll claim that you don’t have to. If you do, remember that I’ve won.

Is that true?

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

Victory is near! MIlitary strategists claim than once you destroy 50% of the enemy army you win the war because they can no longer attack you or even defend themselves.

Continue the boycott! Down with the parasites!

Charge!

i warned you. you’ve over-fed the troll!!

STOP, DROP AND COVER, PEOPLE!

LOOK OUT! HE’S GONNA BLOW!”

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA Stop!!!! HOHOHOHOHOHOHAHAHAHAHA Oh my god, I think I pissed myself!!! That’s awesome!

I can’t speak for everyone else, but I own hundreds of CDs. And most of it is from replacing my vinyl & cassettes with the CD versions of those albums between 1995-2000. Since 2000 I’ve bought maybe 5 new release CDs per year AT MOST. Maybe sales are down because people already filled their back catalogues and are spending their entertainment dollars elsewhere? I can believe that filesharing would increase the liklihood that someone would buy a new relase CD… but anyone would have a tough time selling $14 billion worth of new release CDs with all the horrible bands that are being churned out these days.

For sure I buy more DVDs than anything right now (HMV has more DVDs on display than CDs these days), but I’m not buying as many DVDs lately as I’ve pretty much replaced my entire old VHS movie collection, too.

It sounds like the rise of the CD in the 1990s gave the industry a false sense of security, causing them to set their expectations too high. Now they are using the internet as a scapegoat.

and he’s gonna do it to carey sherman

i warned you. you’ve over-fed the troll!!

STOP, DROP AND COVER, PEOPLE!

LOOK OUT! HE’S GONNA BLOW!

Because of you rotten kids, our favorite artists are starving.

Robert Plant is down to his last $60 million dollars! He had to get back together with Led Zeppelin just to make ends meet.

*sniff*

“…..file sharing doesn’t hurt record sales but in fact HELPS BOOST SALES. How can you explain that? I say, if you bite the hand that feeds you, the hand stops feeding you. Period”

Yes, well bullshit yourself as you wish. We’re down 14 billion a year at the moment. I say when music procurement stays about on par as it currently is and the 14 plus billion in annual revenue returns and then we see the INCREASE ON TOP OF THAT, that illegal downloading supposedly creates…..THEN you’ll have a point.

Until then, my clients, mostly studio and touring guys…… their yearly income used to average about 2/3’s royalties, one-third active recording, playing out and touring. Royalty is done now because you kids are fucking musicians senselessly. Most of my clients are down to 35%-40% (plus minus) of their income from 5 years ago. They are slowly losing their homes, their kids can’t go to college, they are being forced to do without health insurance and things like that. I deal with this mess everyday. You are taking, possessing, enjoying, and paying nothing. You are fucking the artists raw, and you call yourselves fans.

We have words for kids like you but “fans” is not one of them.

I remember when groups like this whined about how Video (now DVD) and Record (now CDs) rentals would kill the market, because no one would buy the product anymore (I am not sure how bad the backlash was in the US, because I was living overseas then).

Each organization was sure that these “evil” rentals would kill the market, and no one would every buy their product again.

The truth, however, is that DVD/CD sales are doing well, even with the ever increasing number of Rentals.

So what it comes down to, is the classical “the sky is falling” syndrome, by people who are too uneducated/clueless about what is happening in the world around them.

I know from experience, people who will buy DVD/CDs will buy them whether or not they have seen/listened to them before (and there is a higher chance that they will buy it if they liked what they saw/listened to).

On the other hand, people who don’t buy DVD/CDs won’t buy them, no matter what the situation is: Some may wait to watch the movie in the $1 theater night, or wait until the local Movie channels show it, or even watch it with a friend who bought it. As for music, all you need to do, is turn the radio knob, or borrow the CD from a friend. Personally, I have not found many pieces of music that I would want to buy, much less buy the full album, because I have lost interest in much of the recent music.

Now when the product is then SOLD by a person, that is a whole new ballgame. Many people who “buy” this legitimate product, feel that they have “purchased” the product, so they don’t need to buy the “official” product. This will cause a loss of sale, as well as put money in the pockets of those who do not have the right to make money off of the product.

So it comes to this main point

“Loss of Sale”

Maybe the **AA’s of the world should be worrying about the true copyright offenders who are trying to make a buck off of other people’s work, than trying to extort cash from people.

On another note, I will have to say that I am not sure about the laws in the US or Canada, but where I live, misrepresenting yourself as a lawyer has very severe consequences, and as many people know, the Internet is not as anonymous as people would like to think.

Just my two cents

I am not a lawyer, laws and regulations may vary in your state, country

Second, do you honestly think file sharing is doing more damage to the record labels or suing their own customers might have more of an impact? There are now 3 independent studies, all of them included in different articles here on this very site, that show file sharing doesn’t hurt record sales but in fact HELPS BOOST SALES. How can you explain that? I say, if you bite the hand that feeds you, the hand stops feeding you. Period.

http://torrentfreak.com/50cent-file-sharing-doesnt-hurt-the-artists-071208/

” Pål asked 50 Cent: “How are G-Unit Records doing in these times of file-sharing?

“Not so good.” he responded. “The advances in technology impacts everyone, and we all must adapt. Most of all hip-hop, a style of music dependent upon a youthful audience. This market consists of individuals embracing innovations faster than the fans of classical and jazz music.”

“What is important for the music industry to understand is that this really doesn’t hurt the artists.”

Thats quite a statement. Organizations like the RIAA are always talking about how the artists get hurt by file-sharing but 50 Cent clearly doesn’t agree. In fact, he appears to appreciate the value of a good fan, whether he buys or file-shares his music, as he explains:

“A young fan may be just as devout and dedicated no matter if he bought it or stole it.”

Indeed. It’s been said time and time again - get the music out there by any which way, fill the gigs and capitalize on the merchandising and ends will meet. 50 Cent agrees:

“The concerts are crowded and the industry must understand that they have to manage all the 360 degrees around an artist. They, (the industry), have to maximize their income from concerts and merchandise. It is the only way they can get their marketing money back.”

He finishes up: “The main problem is that the artists are not getting as much help developing as before file-sharing. They are now learning to peddle ringtones, not records” he said. ”

Sounds like the problem is the Labels , doesn’t it.

He’s not the only artist to know this.
More and more are speaking out.

http://torrentfreak.com/charity-forced-to-pay-copyright-police-so-kids-can-sing-071209/

.. produce no consumer backlash at all .. right ???

I know that makes me want to run right out and buy buy buy

Correct.

That’s what we are doing, and it’s having an effect.
Not buying, and not downloading is costing RIAA members money.
Of course, they claim its ALL because of file sharing, a falsehood that has been debunked
by US studies and one canadian study.

The boycott is killing them
not filesharing.

The lie oft repeated is still not the truth.