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	<title>Comments on: Tragically Hip&#8217;s money troubles</title>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/1434#comment-10099</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2005 17:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/1434#comment-10099</guid>
		<description>i understand about momey problems alot.but even when you came to oregon n played it was awsome.so is this do to bad mang. or not .if your one of the biggest record labels in canada ,how do you lose money just how , i dont understand that but!!!! you now jonh  lee hooker he once n told me that he put out 350 albumsand on the last8 is were he made the money, so what im trying to tragically hip tay together n hold on titlely n face the music people r always trying to get over on someone ,the nature of the best. i just want to say keep on rockenn have a good one thanks



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i understand about momey problems alot.but even when you came to oregon n played it was awsome.so is this do to bad mang. or not .if your one of the biggest record labels in canada ,how do you lose money just how , i dont understand that but!!!! you now jonh  lee hooker he once n told me that he put out 350 albumsand on the last8 is were he made the money, so what im trying to tragically hip tay together n hold on titlely n face the music people r always trying to get over on someone ,the nature of the best. i just want to say keep on rockenn have a good one thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/1434#comment-2227</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2004 00:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/1434#comment-2227</guid>
		<description>I think its a bit ironic, that while reading your post, I see to the left - advertisements and links to BearShare and LimeWire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think its a bit ironic, that while reading your post, I see to the left - advertisements and links to BearShare and LimeWire.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/1434#comment-2185</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2004 09:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/1434#comment-2185</guid>
		<description>Good, don't play. Go to hell Tragically Hip, like anyone's going to miss you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good, don&#8217;t play. Go to hell Tragically Hip, like anyone&#8217;s going to miss you!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/1434#comment-2036</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2004 00:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/1434#comment-2036</guid>
		<description>All you retards who steal music should be ashamed of yourselves. Yes, that is right -- YOU ARE STEALING!!! If you don't like it, change the system through legal means -- but don't steal. Stealing is simply wrong. But, if you don't mind stealing music, I'm going to come over to your house and steal your CD collection because you probably make more money than me. How'd you feel about that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All you retards who steal music should be ashamed of yourselves. Yes, that is right &#8212; YOU ARE STEALING!!! If you don&#8217;t like it, change the system through legal means &#8212; but don&#8217;t steal. Stealing is simply wrong. But, if you don&#8217;t mind stealing music, I&#8217;m going to come over to your house and steal your CD collection because you probably make more money than me. How&#8217;d you feel about that?</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/1434#comment-1850</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2004 00:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/1434#comment-1850</guid>
		<description>"It underlines, again, the vulnerability of our artists, creators and producers..."

Has anybody else noticed that the labels never mention the HUGE cut that they collect from wholesale CD sales? Producers make some good money on successful releases (more than the artists/songwriters typically) but still FAR less than the labels. AND, if the release is not profitable the artists &#038; producer pick up the tab for studio time, pressings, promo costs, etc..., NOT the labels. $hit, I bet the CRIA/RIAA (depending on where you're at) cut is as much as many of the artist royalty arrangements and they are nothing but leaches! I am so tired of hearing this crap. Their business is not working right, so what do they do? Adapt? Embrace new technology? Noooo. They dig their heals in, bitch and whine a LOT, oh, and sue their customers! That's sure to make things better... Then there's destroying fair use and online privacy rights!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It underlines, again, the vulnerability of our artists, creators and producers&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Has anybody else noticed that the labels never mention the HUGE cut that they collect from wholesale CD sales? Producers make some good money on successful releases (more than the artists/songwriters typically) but still FAR less than the labels. AND, if the release is not profitable the artists &#038; producer pick up the tab for studio time, pressings, promo costs, etc&#8230;, NOT the labels. $hit, I bet the CRIA/RIAA (depending on where you&#8217;re at) cut is as much as many of the artist royalty arrangements and they are nothing but leaches! I am so tired of hearing this crap. Their business is not working right, so what do they do? Adapt? Embrace new technology? Noooo. They dig their heals in, bitch and whine a LOT, oh, and sue their customers! That&#8217;s sure to make things better&#8230; Then there&#8217;s destroying fair use and online privacy rights!</p>
<p>If I had a rocket launcher&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/1434#comment-1847</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2004 22:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/1434#comment-1847</guid>
		<description>there were more than half a million 'unauthorized' attempts to download their new single


How the hell did they work that one out? 

Drugs and booze maybe...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there were more than half a million &#8216;unauthorized&#8217; attempts to download their new single</p>
<p>How the hell did they work that one out? </p>
<p>Drugs and booze maybe&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/1434#comment-1845</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2004 22:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/1434#comment-1845</guid>
		<description>Who the **** is Tragically Hip?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who the **** is Tragically Hip?</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/1434#comment-1839</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2004 17:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/1434#comment-1839</guid>
		<description>Filesharing has once again been villified as the main reason the music industry is facing a financial crisis when there are actually several causes--file sharing being barely the least of them. 

Music sales have been inflated with the rise of the CD format for years as people bought to stock their collections, only now are they finally levelling out. It's just the same as how DVD sales are tremendous at the moment. In fact, DVD sales are cut into music profits on that front and that most major music retailers (ie HMV) are splitting once CD-only retail space with with DVDs. Anyone in merchandising will tell you how shelf space directly co-relates with sales. 

Factor in how video games and console games have taken off and the fact that major label music is pretty vapid at the moment for anyone over 15 and you can pretty much ascertain that music sales are more where they should rightfully be at. 

Add filesharing to that equation and you get pretty much the same answer.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Filesharing has once again been villified as the main reason the music industry is facing a financial crisis when there are actually several causes&#8211;file sharing being barely the least of them. </p>
<p>Music sales have been inflated with the rise of the CD format for years as people bought to stock their collections, only now are they finally levelling out. It&#8217;s just the same as how DVD sales are tremendous at the moment. In fact, DVD sales are cut into music profits on that front and that most major music retailers (ie HMV) are splitting once CD-only retail space with with DVDs. Anyone in merchandising will tell you how shelf space directly co-relates with sales. </p>
<p>Factor in how video games and console games have taken off and the fact that major label music is pretty vapid at the moment for anyone over 15 and you can pretty much ascertain that music sales are more where they should rightfully be at. </p>
<p>Add filesharing to that equation and you get pretty much the same answer.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/1434#comment-1837</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2004 11:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/1434#comment-1837</guid>
		<description>Proposed copyright changes could hit downloaders
FROM CANADIAN PRESS

The practice of downloading songs for free could change if the federal
government adopts recommendations tabled today by a Heritage committee.

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&#038;c=Article&#038;cid=1084399810290&#038;call_pageid=968332188492&#038;col=968705899037
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Proposed copyright changes could hit downloaders<br />
FROM CANADIAN PRESS</p>
<p>The practice of downloading songs for free could change if the federal<br />
government adopts recommendations tabled today by a Heritage committee.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&#038;c=Article&#038;cid=1084399810290&#038;call_pageid=968332188492&#038;col=968705899037" rel="nofollow">http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&#038;c=Article&#038;cid=1084399810290&#038;call_pageid=968332188492&#038;col=968705899037</a></p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/1434#comment-1836</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2004 10:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/1434#comment-1836</guid>
		<description>I have a couple of Hip albums that I paid for.  I pay for the right to privately copy them too (thanks to our levy on blank CDs).  I have never copied Hip music, so I think I've overpaid.  I wonder if they will give me a refund.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a couple of Hip albums that I paid for.  I pay for the right to privately copy them too (thanks to our levy on blank CDs).  I have never copied Hip music, so I think I&#8217;ve overpaid.  I wonder if they will give me a refund.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/1434#comment-1834</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2004 09:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/1434#comment-1834</guid>
		<description>&#62;&#62;Canada and the need for federal politicians and bureaucrats to move far more expeditiously than they have in the past to update Canada's woefully inadequate Copyright Act."&#60;&#60;

that kinda attitude could spell trouble...please no DMCA here in Canada.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;Canada and the need for federal politicians and bureaucrats to move far more expeditiously than they have in the past to update Canada&#8217;s woefully inadequate Copyright Act.&#8221;&lt;&lt;</p>
<p>that kinda attitude could spell trouble&#8230;please no DMCA here in Canada.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/1434#comment-1831</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2004 06:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/1434#comment-1831</guid>
		<description>Metallica, Eminem, Dr. Dre, Missy Elliot, Tragically Hip...all of these artists are filthy rich.  The people who download their mp3's are the same people who pay big bucks to go to their concerts.

No pay no play?  Well then how about this:  No downloads = no fans at your concerts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Metallica, Eminem, Dr. Dre, Missy Elliot, Tragically Hip&#8230;all of these artists are filthy rich.  The people who download their mp3&#8217;s are the same people who pay big bucks to go to their concerts.</p>
<p>No pay no play?  Well then how about this:  No downloads = no fans at your concerts.</p>
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