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		<title>By: Surrealist</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14354/comment-page-1#comment-986166</link>
		<dc:creator>Surrealist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 14:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fear is the mind killer</description>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14354/comment-page-1#comment-883874</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 08:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um, I have been searching for a few minutes for some way to block this type of advertising, i never considered myself the &quot;tin foil hat&quot; type but if that would give me PEACE OF MIND ill have one in size medium. Do any of you here have any suggestion for some way to block this? If not I, since im a chick might start wearing an insulated hijab. This type of ad is INSIDE your cranium so your ipod listening isnt going to stop it, its in your head,

Fourth Ammendment
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

This type of advertising violates my right of security or privacy &quot;IN their persons&quot; this advertising is placed INSIDE the person, thus violating the 4th ammendment, it is seeking to seize you without your consent. Im not a lawyer but i think we as humans should never be subjected to solicitation against our will. Imagine if the homeless guy had one of these and could just beam &quot;are you gonna finish that slice of pizza&quot; in your head, so as not to disturb the other customers on the sidewalk cafe?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, I have been searching for a few minutes for some way to block this type of advertising, i never considered myself the &#8220;tin foil hat&#8221; type but if that would give me PEACE OF MIND ill have one in size medium. Do any of you here have any suggestion for some way to block this? If not I, since im a chick might start wearing an insulated hijab. This type of ad is INSIDE your cranium so your ipod listening isnt going to stop it, its in your head,</p>
<p>Fourth Ammendment<br />
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.</p>
<p>This type of advertising violates my right of security or privacy &#8220;IN their persons&#8221; this advertising is placed INSIDE the person, thus violating the 4th ammendment, it is seeking to seize you without your consent. Im not a lawyer but i think we as humans should never be subjected to solicitation against our will. Imagine if the homeless guy had one of these and could just beam &#8220;are you gonna finish that slice of pizza&#8221; in your head, so as not to disturb the other customers on the sidewalk cafe?</p>
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		<title>By: huh</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14354/comment-page-1#comment-242248</link>
		<dc:creator>huh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 00:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my head asplode</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my head asplode</p>
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		<title>By: Havvy</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14354/comment-page-1#comment-240715</link>
		<dc:creator>Havvy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 20:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Music should be free to listen to...

Watching somebody sing it is different though...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Music should be free to listen to&#8230;</p>
<p>Watching somebody sing it is different though&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14354/comment-page-1#comment-239408</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 19:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quote &quot;So, when they invent a technology where the audio is completely silent EXCEPT for when youâre standing right in itâs field, this is also evil.&quot;

Here&#039;s the problem - it is being beamed into our field. It is not their field. If I owned the sidewalk where the ad is being beamed into, I would expect to be compensated for my trouble.

Oh, and where are your stats to back up that P2P hurts the artists more than the music mafia? Every study I have seen has the P2P actually giving more exposure to artists and are promoting them better (and free of charge) than the record industry that forces the artists themselves to pay them back for promotion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quote &#8220;So, when they invent a technology where the audio is completely silent EXCEPT for when youâre standing right in itâs field, this is also evil.&#8221;</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the problem &#8211; it is being beamed into our field. It is not their field. If I owned the sidewalk where the ad is being beamed into, I would expect to be compensated for my trouble.</p>
<p>Oh, and where are your stats to back up that P2P hurts the artists more than the music mafia? Every study I have seen has the P2P actually giving more exposure to artists and are promoting them better (and free of charge) than the record industry that forces the artists themselves to pay them back for promotion.</p>
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		<title>By: catflap</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14354/comment-page-1#comment-238700</link>
		<dc:creator>catflap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 06:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i can&#039;t find the word &quot;miaudlin&quot; in any dictionary, in any language, online or offline.

hello troll.

pwned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i can&#8217;t find the word &#8220;miaudlin&#8221; in any dictionary, in any language, online or offline.</p>
<p>hello troll.</p>
<p>pwned.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14354/comment-page-1#comment-238618</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 04:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Henry.

Long time. How goes it?  

Anyhow, enjoy your Christmas shopping. There&#039;ll be plenty of people who&#039;ll tell you what to buy :)

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Henry.</p>
<p>Long time. How goes it?  </p>
<p>Anyhow, enjoy your Christmas shopping. There&#8217;ll be plenty of people who&#8217;ll tell you what to buy <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Henry Emrich</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14354/comment-page-1#comment-238532</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry Emrich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 03:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More miaudlin blathering with no substance whatsoever.

   As far as I can tell from this website, your two basic principles are:
  1. Anything and everything you want -- no matter what it is -- should be available at no cost to you, whatsoever.  Additionally, the fact that somebody complains about this is enough to get them branded as &quot;an RIAA troll&quot;.  (Keeping in mind, of course, that the p2p networks are fucking the artists over WORSE than the &quot;music cartels&quot; -- who at least DO occasionally do a half-assed job of paying out royalties etc.)

  2. Advertising -- of any kind, for any purpose -- is evil.  You should not be &quot;forced&quot; to (for example) overhear commercial sound.  So, when they invent a technology where the audio is completely silent EXCEPT for when you&#039;re standing right in it&#039;s field, this is also evil.  So you hate commercialization of any kind, and want everything for &quot;free&quot; no matter what anybody else -- especially the creators or distributors of the content -- say about it.  This is fascinating. to observe how godawfully dishonest the entire thing is.
    
   You obviously don&#039;t want to &quot;pay for&quot; anything -- you just want it -- whatever it is -- for &quot;free&quot;, no matter how it&#039;s acquired, so it stands to reason that anybody advocating that you &quot;buy&quot; something would be seen as &quot;the enemy&quot;.  
   Makes perfect sense to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More miaudlin blathering with no substance whatsoever.</p>
<p>   As far as I can tell from this website, your two basic principles are:<br />
  1. Anything and everything you want &#8212; no matter what it is &#8212; should be available at no cost to you, whatsoever.  Additionally, the fact that somebody complains about this is enough to get them branded as &#8220;an RIAA troll&#8221;.  (Keeping in mind, of course, that the p2p networks are fucking the artists over WORSE than the &#8220;music cartels&#8221; &#8212; who at least DO occasionally do a half-assed job of paying out royalties etc.)</p>
<p>  2. Advertising &#8212; of any kind, for any purpose &#8212; is evil.  You should not be &#8220;forced&#8221; to (for example) overhear commercial sound.  So, when they invent a technology where the audio is completely silent EXCEPT for when you&#8217;re standing right in it&#8217;s field, this is also evil.  So you hate commercialization of any kind, and want everything for &#8220;free&#8221; no matter what anybody else &#8212; especially the creators or distributors of the content &#8212; say about it.  This is fascinating. to observe how godawfully dishonest the entire thing is.</p>
<p>   You obviously don&#8217;t want to &#8220;pay for&#8221; anything &#8212; you just want it &#8212; whatever it is &#8212; for &#8220;free&#8221;, no matter how it&#8217;s acquired, so it stands to reason that anybody advocating that you &#8220;buy&#8221; something would be seen as &#8220;the enemy&#8221;.<br />
   Makes perfect sense to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14354/comment-page-1#comment-238417</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 01:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another thought: I was talking to a blind friend today. Obviously, he uses his ears to get around. One of the things he does is occasionally &#039;click&#039; with his tongue. He calls it his dolphin echo location. He says he&#039;d definitely find it a pain to have ads beamed at him.

Cheers!
Jon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another thought: I was talking to a blind friend today. Obviously, he uses his ears to get around. One of the things he does is occasionally &#8216;click&#8217; with his tongue. He calls it his dolphin echo location. He says he&#8217;d definitely find it a pain to have ads beamed at him.</p>
<p>Cheers!<br />
Jon</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14354/comment-page-1#comment-238326</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 23:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When i&#039;m walking around i&#039;m usually listening to my ipod anyway. I wouldn&#039;t hear it :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When i&#8217;m walking around i&#8217;m usually listening to my ipod anyway. I wouldn&#8217;t hear it <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Havvy</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14354/comment-page-1#comment-238103</link>
		<dc:creator>Havvy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 18:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...this is the worst thing I&#039;ve seen from advertising ever!  You can&#039;t block it making it forced upon people.  I believe you could sue them over forcing you to listen to an advertisement you don&#039;t want to.  People watch advertisements the first second, if they like it, they continue, if not, they ignore it.  You can&#039;t do that with this type of advertising.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;this is the worst thing I&#8217;ve seen from advertising ever!  You can&#8217;t block it making it forced upon people.  I believe you could sue them over forcing you to listen to an advertisement you don&#8217;t want to.  People watch advertisements the first second, if they like it, they continue, if not, they ignore it.  You can&#8217;t do that with this type of advertising.</p>
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		<title>By: catflap</title>
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		<dc:creator>catflap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 17:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that&#039;s fucked up, jon.

this technology was probably developed by and for the military. sonic waves (as well as microwaves) have been used as weapons by US police and military - even on people taking part  in peaceful demonstrations - for years.

many technological &quot;advances&quot; which were originally developed for military use (video games, joy sticks, etc.) are now a part of everyday life.

so one can imagine that this &quot;audio beaming&quot; has also been used as a weapon by armed forces, and indeed has now been hijacked by madison avenue to attack unsuspecting, innocent bystanders and passersby.

this type of unwanted advertising can cause death. 

what if the disc becomes defective or is pointed at someone at the wrong place or time? imagine a person crossing a busy midtown street and suddenly without warning hears &quot;Stop! Look! Up in the sky! It&#039;s Superman!&quot; The person does just that and is then hit by a bus because the light has turned red.

people on their lunch breaks often like to sit and read a newspaper or book to relax and quietly pass the time without interference - something they look forward to all day. but as they sit with their sandwich and paperback, they now have to be bombarded with annoying audio ads. that&#039;s enough to ruin anyone&#039;s quiet time.

many people in big cities wear their walkman headphones to drown out the hustle and bustle of city life distractions and enjoy a bit of non-intrusive, private entertainment.

as a native new yorker i know this as a fact.

cinemas use technology to send unwanted ads to unsuspecting movie-goers&#039; cell phones as they walk in the door.

now i can imagine the madison avenue suits thinking of ways to get inside your ipod or walkman or mobile phone without your permission in order to try and sell something or distract you in some way. perhaps this would be the ultimate use for GPS and bluetooth.

suppose a weapon like this got into the wrong hands and could be used to attack people with subliminal messages? instead of &quot;Buy&quot; it could be &quot;Steal&quot;, or &quot;Kill&quot;. perhaps it already has been used this way?

this is another example of unwanted, annoying in-your-face advertising that to the uninformed unwashed masses seems like a bit of harmless fun. one might think it&#039;s just a fad, but with sky-high billboards, cctv, and now audio beaming, there doesn&#039;t seem to be any possibility of escaping the eyes and ears of big brother.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that&#8217;s fucked up, jon.</p>
<p>this technology was probably developed by and for the military. sonic waves (as well as microwaves) have been used as weapons by US police and military &#8211; even on people taking part  in peaceful demonstrations &#8211; for years.</p>
<p>many technological &#8220;advances&#8221; which were originally developed for military use (video games, joy sticks, etc.) are now a part of everyday life.</p>
<p>so one can imagine that this &#8220;audio beaming&#8221; has also been used as a weapon by armed forces, and indeed has now been hijacked by madison avenue to attack unsuspecting, innocent bystanders and passersby.</p>
<p>this type of unwanted advertising can cause death. </p>
<p>what if the disc becomes defective or is pointed at someone at the wrong place or time? imagine a person crossing a busy midtown street and suddenly without warning hears &#8220;Stop! Look! Up in the sky! It&#8217;s Superman!&#8221; The person does just that and is then hit by a bus because the light has turned red.</p>
<p>people on their lunch breaks often like to sit and read a newspaper or book to relax and quietly pass the time without interference &#8211; something they look forward to all day. but as they sit with their sandwich and paperback, they now have to be bombarded with annoying audio ads. that&#8217;s enough to ruin anyone&#8217;s quiet time.</p>
<p>many people in big cities wear their walkman headphones to drown out the hustle and bustle of city life distractions and enjoy a bit of non-intrusive, private entertainment.</p>
<p>as a native new yorker i know this as a fact.</p>
<p>cinemas use technology to send unwanted ads to unsuspecting movie-goers&#8217; cell phones as they walk in the door.</p>
<p>now i can imagine the madison avenue suits thinking of ways to get inside your ipod or walkman or mobile phone without your permission in order to try and sell something or distract you in some way. perhaps this would be the ultimate use for GPS and bluetooth.</p>
<p>suppose a weapon like this got into the wrong hands and could be used to attack people with subliminal messages? instead of &#8220;Buy&#8221; it could be &#8220;Steal&#8221;, or &#8220;Kill&#8221;. perhaps it already has been used this way?</p>
<p>this is another example of unwanted, annoying in-your-face advertising that to the uninformed unwashed masses seems like a bit of harmless fun. one might think it&#8217;s just a fad, but with sky-high billboards, cctv, and now audio beaming, there doesn&#8217;t seem to be any possibility of escaping the eyes and ears of big brother.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14354/comment-page-1#comment-238049</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 17:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually,  I quite like doing the posts. I&#039;d probably be surfing around anyway, checking out what&#039;s happening :)

Otherwise - http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13456

Cheers! And have a good Christmas, Morg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually,  I quite like doing the posts. I&#8217;d probably be surfing around anyway, checking out what&#8217;s happening <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Otherwise &#8211; <a href="http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13456" rel="nofollow">http://www.p2pnet.net/story/13456</a></p>
<p>Cheers! And have a good Christmas, Morg</p>
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		<title>By: Morg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 16:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Jon:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As a long-time reader, I have often thought you would do better to concentrate more on producing the kind of original article like the one above than a lot of smaller stories amalgamated from mainstream media and other sources.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I say this in the spirit of friendly criticism :)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Morg&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jon:</p>
<p>As a long-time reader, I have often thought you would do better to concentrate more on producing the kind of original article like the one above than a lot of smaller stories amalgamated from mainstream media and other sources.</p>
<p>I say this in the spirit of friendly criticism <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Morg</p>
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