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		<title>By: Floyd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Floyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 02:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That unethical marketing plan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That unethical marketing plan.</p>
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		<title>By: Floyd</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14425/comment-page-1#comment-837044</link>
		<dc:creator>Floyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 02:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone is asking the wrong question. Why has not apple chosen to allow down loading of itunes to Linux operating systems? 1.) They do not want Linux OS people to enjoy itunes? or is the market not big enough for Linux OS? Is that ethical. Remember ethics not what we are allowed to do or can do but what we &quot;ought to do&quot;. I realize that a whole lot of people are violating the idea and the letter of the law on &quot;fair use&quot; What I find objectionable in this discussion is that Apple can make to me an ethical marketing plan and I am suppose to enjoy it and demand that the law protects them but not give me any justice. Remember justice is more important then the law and profit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone is asking the wrong question. Why has not apple chosen to allow down loading of itunes to Linux operating systems? 1.) They do not want Linux OS people to enjoy itunes? or is the market not big enough for Linux OS? Is that ethical. Remember ethics not what we are allowed to do or can do but what we &#8220;ought to do&#8221;. I realize that a whole lot of people are violating the idea and the letter of the law on &#8220;fair use&#8221; What I find objectionable in this discussion is that Apple can make to me an ethical marketing plan and I am suppose to enjoy it and demand that the law protects them but not give me any justice. Remember justice is more important then the law and profit.</p>
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		<title>By: patrick</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14425/comment-page-1#comment-249243</link>
		<dc:creator>patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2007 03:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lack of morality, perhaps, or just apathy. I&#039;ve taken classes where the teacher has had to threaten pop quizzes and tests just to get a bare minimum of student participation.  

It could also be people losing respect for an area of the law that has become corrupt with lobbyist dollars.  Most of the changes to copyright law in the 20th century have been to please large copyright holders, like the Hollywood movies studios.  The length of copyright was conveniently (with much lobbying from Disney) extended retroactively when Mickey Mouse was about pass into the public domain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lack of morality, perhaps, or just apathy. I&#8217;ve taken classes where the teacher has had to threaten pop quizzes and tests just to get a bare minimum of student participation.  </p>
<p>It could also be people losing respect for an area of the law that has become corrupt with lobbyist dollars.  Most of the changes to copyright law in the 20th century have been to please large copyright holders, like the Hollywood movies studios.  The length of copyright was conveniently (with much lobbying from Disney) extended retroactively when Mickey Mouse was about pass into the public domain.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14425/comment-page-1#comment-245236</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2007 02:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;They listened to each example, looking at me like I was nuts.&quot;


That&#039;s probably because you are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;They listened to each example, looking at me like I was nuts.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s probably because you are.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14425/comment-page-1#comment-245020</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 21:50:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The morality angle is easy to explain. Young people are realizing at an earlier and earlier age that just because something is illegal doesn&#039;t necessarily mean that it&#039;s &quot;wrong&quot;. In some places you can get suspended from school for having purple hair, but is purple hair really &quot;wrong&quot; ? It&#039;s illegal to criticize your government in some countries, but is it really &quot;wrong&quot; to do so? In some places it&#039;s illegal for a woman to go out in public without appropriate attire ( I believe I have read about at least one US locality where it&#039;s illegal for a woman not to wear a bra in public, for instance) but is it really &quot;wrong&quot; for her to do so? In Britain I believe it&#039;s illegal to operate a television reciever without a permit, but is it really &quot;wrong&quot; ? And the list goes on and on...

   My point is that, in my opinion, the more of these kinds of disconnects young people see, the less they will worry about what&#039;s &quot;right&quot; or &quot;wrong&quot;, and more they will just worry about not getting caught. With some of the things going on in the world today, sometimes it&#039;s kind of hard to blame them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The morality angle is easy to explain. Young people are realizing at an earlier and earlier age that just because something is illegal doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean that it&#8217;s &#8220;wrong&#8221;. In some places you can get suspended from school for having purple hair, but is purple hair really &#8220;wrong&#8221; ? It&#8217;s illegal to criticize your government in some countries, but is it really &#8220;wrong&#8221; to do so? In some places it&#8217;s illegal for a woman to go out in public without appropriate attire ( I believe I have read about at least one US locality where it&#8217;s illegal for a woman not to wear a bra in public, for instance) but is it really &#8220;wrong&#8221; for her to do so? In Britain I believe it&#8217;s illegal to operate a television reciever without a permit, but is it really &#8220;wrong&#8221; ? And the list goes on and on&#8230;</p>
<p>   My point is that, in my opinion, the more of these kinds of disconnects young people see, the less they will worry about what&#8217;s &#8220;right&#8221; or &#8220;wrong&#8221;, and more they will just worry about not getting caught. With some of the things going on in the world today, sometimes it&#8217;s kind of hard to blame them.</p>
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		<title>By: catflap</title>
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		<dc:creator>catflap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 18:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE:âTo me, itâs obvious that PyMusique is designed to facilitate illegal song-swapping online. And therefore, itâs wrong to use it.â

*****
you aren&#039;t reading the article correctly.

that is what he wrote in EARLY 2005!

now it&#039;s late 2007 and that&#039;s what the article is about

&quot;But 10, 20, 30 years from now, that crowd will be *everybody*.&quot;</description>
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<p>*****<br />
you aren&#8217;t reading the article correctly.</p>
<p>that is what he wrote in EARLY 2005!</p>
<p>now it&#8217;s late 2007 and that&#8217;s what the article is about</p>
<p>&#8220;But 10, 20, 30 years from now, that crowd will be *everybody*.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14425/comment-page-1#comment-244830</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 17:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;PyMusique...allow[ed] Linux users to download tracks from iTunes without Appleâs...DRM.&quot;

This what it did. Period. No file sharing protocol. The only real difference between PyMusique and iTunes was the PyMusique files were not hobbled with DRM. What does this mean? Interoperability. Being able to use your files in the way you want on any device that supports the mp4 format without arbitrary limitations. 

From this, New York Times luddite guy David Pogue concludes,
&quot;To me, itâs obvious that PyMusique is designed to facilitate illegal song-swapping online. And therefore, itâs wrong to use it.&quot;

The only thing he can see is the supposedly &quot;illegal&quot; use of the files. Out goes the baby with the bathwater once again. Shades of wrongness indeed. And he wonders why he gets blank stares...

BTW, I&#039;m 49. &quot;Generational divide&quot; my arse. This guy is just a corporate shill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;PyMusique&#8230;allow[ed] Linux users to download tracks from iTunes without Appleâs&#8230;DRM.&#8221;</p>
<p>This what it did. Period. No file sharing protocol. The only real difference between PyMusique and iTunes was the PyMusique files were not hobbled with DRM. What does this mean? Interoperability. Being able to use your files in the way you want on any device that supports the mp4 format without arbitrary limitations. </p>
<p>From this, New York Times luddite guy David Pogue concludes,<br />
&#8220;To me, itâs obvious that PyMusique is designed to facilitate illegal song-swapping online. And therefore, itâs wrong to use it.&#8221;</p>
<p>The only thing he can see is the supposedly &#8220;illegal&#8221; use of the files. Out goes the baby with the bathwater once again. Shades of wrongness indeed. And he wonders why he gets blank stares&#8230;</p>
<p>BTW, I&#8217;m 49. &#8220;Generational divide&#8221; my arse. This guy is just a corporate shill.</p>
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