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	<title>Comments on: Catholic board bans Golden Compass</title>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14431/comment-page-1#comment-264140</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 08:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They can always download it via p2p.  There are even ebook (.txt) readers that will only display one word at a time so that anyone looking over your shoulder won&#039;t know what you are reading.  Combine with something like Truecrypt to keep snoops out and I wonder why they even bother.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They can always download it via p2p.  There are even ebook (.txt) readers that will only display one word at a time so that anyone looking over your shoulder won&#8217;t know what you are reading.  Combine with something like Truecrypt to keep snoops out and I wonder why they even bother.</p>
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		<title>By: Hippie</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14431/comment-page-1#comment-252072</link>
		<dc:creator>Hippie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 15:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; I donât see beliefs being forced upon anybody here. This is a parocial private school. The actions affect only their private library, not the general public. &quot;

 As I said earlier ...

It was due to pressure from them ( Catholics ) that a large part of the fictional religious undertones were removed from the movie to begin with, and yet they still complain.
Removed from a movie for PUBLIC concumption. A public that includes non-catholics.
They lobby for religious based laws which affect non-catholics as well as catholics.
The Religious lobby machine is second only to the entertainmanet lobby machine.
Their religious values are forced onto all as I said, through government or force.

 The book is VERY different from the movie.
 Read it if you&#039;re allowed to.
 Bet the kids at that school aren&#039;t</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; I donât see beliefs being forced upon anybody here. This is a parocial private school. The actions affect only their private library, not the general public. &#8221;</p>
<p> As I said earlier &#8230;</p>
<p>It was due to pressure from them ( Catholics ) that a large part of the fictional religious undertones were removed from the movie to begin with, and yet they still complain.<br />
Removed from a movie for PUBLIC concumption. A public that includes non-catholics.<br />
They lobby for religious based laws which affect non-catholics as well as catholics.<br />
The Religious lobby machine is second only to the entertainmanet lobby machine.<br />
Their religious values are forced onto all as I said, through government or force.</p>
<p> The book is VERY different from the movie.<br />
 Read it if you&#8217;re allowed to.<br />
 Bet the kids at that school aren&#8217;t</p>
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		<title>By: Dude Lofgrin</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14431/comment-page-1#comment-251999</link>
		<dc:creator>Dude Lofgrin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 13:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see beliefs being forced upon anybody here. This is a parocial private school. The actions affect only their private library, not the general public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see beliefs being forced upon anybody here. This is a parocial private school. The actions affect only their private library, not the general public.</p>
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		<title>By: Hippie</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14431/comment-page-1#comment-251212</link>
		<dc:creator>Hippie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 21:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; If youâve accepted Jesus today, you are the righteousness of God! That means you are an extension of His virtue. You are approved by Him. &quot;

 Good.
 More power to you.
 Just don&#039;t force me by law to believe as you do. :)
 Or should I say, as christian history shows, by law or death.

 I am well aware that Christianity isn&#039;t the only religion to impose death on
 those that didn&#039;t follow it. 
 History shows many faiths that used murder ( and some that do now ) to impose
 their &#039;truths&#039;

 Using political lobbying is simply another means to the same end.

 Forcing the world to believe as you do :)

 Happy holidays.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; If youâve accepted Jesus today, you are the righteousness of God! That means you are an extension of His virtue. You are approved by Him. &#8221;</p>
<p> Good.<br />
 More power to you.<br />
 Just don&#8217;t force me by law to believe as you do. <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
 Or should I say, as christian history shows, by law or death.</p>
<p> I am well aware that Christianity isn&#8217;t the only religion to impose death on<br />
 those that didn&#8217;t follow it.<br />
 History shows many faiths that used murder ( and some that do now ) to impose<br />
 their &#8216;truths&#8217;</p>
<p> Using political lobbying is simply another means to the same end.</p>
<p> Forcing the world to believe as you do <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p> Happy holidays.</p>
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		<title>By: Rev. Jack Spencer</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14431/comment-page-1#comment-251080</link>
		<dc:creator>Rev. Jack Spencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 18:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If youâve accepted Jesus today, you are the righteousness of God! That means you are an extension of His virtue. You are approved by Him. You are in right-standing with Him. Jesus not only paid the punishment for your sins, the Bible says He actually became sin. He took it upon Himself and into His being so that you could take Godâs righteousness upon yourself and into your being. Itâs the great exchange. Donât let sin hold you back any longer. Donât let the enemy lie to you and make you feel guilty and condemned. First John 1:9 says that if we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us and cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If there is anything in your life that is holding you back today, confess it to God. Let Him cleanse you and make you new. Remember, He paid a precious price so that you could be His righteousness. Let that sink into your heart today. As you meditate on the truth that you are righteous, youâll begin to change how you think and act. Youâll reflect more of Godâs character, and you will move forward into the life of victory that He has in store</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If youâve accepted Jesus today, you are the righteousness of God! That means you are an extension of His virtue. You are approved by Him. You are in right-standing with Him. Jesus not only paid the punishment for your sins, the Bible says He actually became sin. He took it upon Himself and into His being so that you could take Godâs righteousness upon yourself and into your being. Itâs the great exchange. Donât let sin hold you back any longer. Donât let the enemy lie to you and make you feel guilty and condemned. First John 1:9 says that if we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us and cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If there is anything in your life that is holding you back today, confess it to God. Let Him cleanse you and make you new. Remember, He paid a precious price so that you could be His righteousness. Let that sink into your heart today. As you meditate on the truth that you are righteous, youâll begin to change how you think and act. Youâll reflect more of Godâs character, and you will move forward into the life of victory that He has in store</p>
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		<title>By: Hippie</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14431/comment-page-1#comment-251053</link>
		<dc:creator>Hippie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 17:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Well Well.

 It appears Stan is QUITE sensitive about this subject.
 I notice that not once has he tried to actually dispute
 anything I have said with anything other than name calling.

 THAT&#039;S very telling in itself.

 Regardless of what &#039;religion&#039; you lobby for, it&#039;s SUPPOSED to be my 
 constitutional right to live by the religion that I wish to.
 As was mentioned before .. Separation of Church and State.
 This was put into the constitution for a reason.
 Our founders came here to ESCAPE religious tyranny ( one of many reasons )
 and this clause of the constitution was SUPPOSED to make it so religious tyranny
 could never again rear it&#039;s ugly head. 
 People have a tendency to forget history though, so the mistakes of the past continue to
 return to haunt us.
 Everyone should be able to worship as they see fit, read and view what THEY believe is
 suitable for themselves, and not have some anyone decide what is or is not
 suitable by anyone else.
 Lobby for tyranny if you wish, or lobby for choice, but if tyranny ends up the
 &#039;majority&#039;, revolution WILL follow. It&#039;s historically inevitable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Well Well.</p>
<p> It appears Stan is QUITE sensitive about this subject.<br />
 I notice that not once has he tried to actually dispute<br />
 anything I have said with anything other than name calling.</p>
<p> THAT&#8217;S very telling in itself.</p>
<p> Regardless of what &#8216;religion&#8217; you lobby for, it&#8217;s SUPPOSED to be my<br />
 constitutional right to live by the religion that I wish to.<br />
 As was mentioned before .. Separation of Church and State.<br />
 This was put into the constitution for a reason.<br />
 Our founders came here to ESCAPE religious tyranny ( one of many reasons )<br />
 and this clause of the constitution was SUPPOSED to make it so religious tyranny<br />
 could never again rear it&#8217;s ugly head.<br />
 People have a tendency to forget history though, so the mistakes of the past continue to<br />
 return to haunt us.<br />
 Everyone should be able to worship as they see fit, read and view what THEY believe is<br />
 suitable for themselves, and not have some anyone decide what is or is not<br />
 suitable by anyone else.<br />
 Lobby for tyranny if you wish, or lobby for choice, but if tyranny ends up the<br />
 &#8216;majority&#8217;, revolution WILL follow. It&#8217;s historically inevitable.</p>
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		<title>By: Dreddsnik</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14431/comment-page-1#comment-251047</link>
		<dc:creator>Dreddsnik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 17:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; And Hippie wants me to live in a world where he dictates how things will be. Hypocrite. &quot;

 Hmmm, 
 Really ...

 Show me a quote from hippy that supports what you just said ?
 Sounds more like Hippie wants a world where everyone chooses for themselves.
 Sounds more like Hippie wants true separation of church and state, kind of
 like what the constitution calls for.

 Sounds like you, on the other hand support a world ruled by your religion,
 regardless of what others wish to believe.

 Guess that makes you a liar, and a tyrant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; And Hippie wants me to live in a world where he dictates how things will be. Hypocrite. &#8221;</p>
<p> Hmmm,<br />
 Really &#8230;</p>
<p> Show me a quote from hippy that supports what you just said ?<br />
 Sounds more like Hippie wants a world where everyone chooses for themselves.<br />
 Sounds more like Hippie wants true separation of church and state, kind of<br />
 like what the constitution calls for.</p>
<p> Sounds like you, on the other hand support a world ruled by your religion,<br />
 regardless of what others wish to believe.</p>
<p> Guess that makes you a liar, and a tyrant.</p>
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		<title>By: Stan</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14431/comment-page-1#comment-251016</link>
		<dc:creator>Stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 16:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tyranny of the majority is still, well, Tyranny.

Tyranny of the minority is also tyranny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tyranny of the majority is still, well, Tyranny.</p>
<p>Tyranny of the minority is also tyranny.</p>
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		<title>By: Stan</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14431/comment-page-1#comment-251013</link>
		<dc:creator>Stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 16:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And Hippie wants me to live in a world where he dictates how things will be. Hypocrite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Hippie wants me to live in a world where he dictates how things will be. Hypocrite.</p>
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		<title>By: Hippie</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14431/comment-page-1#comment-250942</link>
		<dc:creator>Hippie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 14:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; Iâm glad Iâm atheist, I donât have to live my life according to a book &quot;

 If you&#039;re in the US, and people like Stan have their wish, you will live your
 life according to a book, or else, whether you believe the book or not.

 That&#039;s the kind of world The Golden Compass is about.
 That&#039;s why the Catholics are so sensitive about it.
 It&#039;s the world they ( like Stan ) want.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; Iâm glad Iâm atheist, I donât have to live my life according to a book &#8221;</p>
<p> If you&#8217;re in the US, and people like Stan have their wish, you will live your<br />
 life according to a book, or else, whether you believe the book or not.</p>
<p> That&#8217;s the kind of world The Golden Compass is about.<br />
 That&#8217;s why the Catholics are so sensitive about it.<br />
 It&#8217;s the world they ( like Stan ) want.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14431/comment-page-1#comment-250560</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 05:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad I&#039;m atheist, I don&#039;t have to live my life according to a book and I can watch The Golden Compass with glee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad I&#8217;m atheist, I don&#8217;t have to live my life according to a book and I can watch The Golden Compass with glee.</p>
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		<title>By: Hippie</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14431/comment-page-1#comment-250525</link>
		<dc:creator>Hippie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 04:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tyranny of the majority is still, well, Tyranny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tyranny of the majority is still, well, Tyranny.</p>
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		<title>By: Stan</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14431/comment-page-1#comment-250408</link>
		<dc:creator>Stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 01:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I want to lobby for my religious values I can. If you want to oppose them you can. Thats the beauty of America. See you at the ballot box.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I want to lobby for my religious values I can. If you want to oppose them you can. Thats the beauty of America. See you at the ballot box.</p>
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		<title>By: Dreddsnik</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14431/comment-page-1#comment-248561</link>
		<dc:creator>Dreddsnik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2007 15:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The book shows a world where the Church basically IS the government.
I think that&#039;s why the Catholic church fears it so much.

Compare the book&#039;s Church controlled government to real history.

How did the catholics act during that time when they WERE the government ?

It&#039;s kindof like looking in a mirror, and they don&#039;t like the face they see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The book shows a world where the Church basically IS the government.<br />
I think that&#8217;s why the Catholic church fears it so much.</p>
<p>Compare the book&#8217;s Church controlled government to real history.</p>
<p>How did the catholics act during that time when they WERE the government ?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s kindof like looking in a mirror, and they don&#8217;t like the face they see.</p>
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		<title>By: Hippie</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14431/comment-page-1#comment-248553</link>
		<dc:creator>Hippie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2007 15:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; That is not happening here. The Catholic school board is a private institution, and governs those who choose to be there, and abide by its governance. &quot;

 Really ?
 It was due to pressure from them that a large part of the fictional religious undertones
 were removed from the movie to begin with, and yet they still complain.
 Removed from a movie for PUBLIC concumption. A public that includes non-catholics.
 They lobby for religious based laws which affect non-catholics as well as catholics.
 The Religious lobby machine is second only to the entertainmanet lobby machine.
 Their religious values are forced onto all as I said, through government or force.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; That is not happening here. The Catholic school board is a private institution, and governs those who choose to be there, and abide by its governance. &#8221;</p>
<p> Really ?<br />
 It was due to pressure from them that a large part of the fictional religious undertones<br />
 were removed from the movie to begin with, and yet they still complain.<br />
 Removed from a movie for PUBLIC concumption. A public that includes non-catholics.<br />
 They lobby for religious based laws which affect non-catholics as well as catholics.<br />
 The Religious lobby machine is second only to the entertainmanet lobby machine.<br />
 Their religious values are forced onto all as I said, through government or force.</p>
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		<title>By: Stan</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14431/comment-page-1#comment-248513</link>
		<dc:creator>Stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2007 14:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People have a right to their religous values, and a right to teach them to their children. â

Quote-
Absolutely right.
They DONâT have the right to force them on me or my children, however, or
through government or force deprive me or mine the knowledge of choice. -End Quote

That is not happening here. The Catholic school board is a private institution, and governs those who choose to be there, and abide by its governance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People have a right to their religous values, and a right to teach them to their children. â</p>
<p>Quote-<br />
Absolutely right.<br />
They DONâT have the right to force them on me or my children, however, or<br />
through government or force deprive me or mine the knowledge of choice. -End Quote</p>
<p>That is not happening here. The Catholic school board is a private institution, and governs those who choose to be there, and abide by its governance.</p>
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		<title>By: Dude from Finland</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14431/comment-page-1#comment-248416</link>
		<dc:creator>Dude from Finland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2007 12:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh and Merry christmas to you all. :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and Merry christmas to you all. <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Dude from Finland</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14431/comment-page-1#comment-248415</link>
		<dc:creator>Dude from Finland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2007 12:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One very effective PR campaign right there. Same as with The Da Vinci Code... Hope the pope takes this up and makes the marketing campaign global.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One very effective PR campaign right there. Same as with The Da Vinci Code&#8230; Hope the pope takes this up and makes the marketing campaign global.</p>
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		<title>By: Hippie</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14431/comment-page-1#comment-247705</link>
		<dc:creator>Hippie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 22:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; People have a right to their religous values, and a right to teach them to their children. &quot;

 Absolutely right.
 They DON&#039;T have the right to force them on me or my children, however, or
 through government or force deprive me or mine the knowledge of choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; People have a right to their religous values, and a right to teach them to their children. &#8221;</p>
<p> Absolutely right.<br />
 They DON&#8217;T have the right to force them on me or my children, however, or<br />
 through government or force deprive me or mine the knowledge of choice.</p>
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		<title>By: Stan</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14431/comment-page-1#comment-247596</link>
		<dc:creator>Stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 19:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People have a right to their religous values, and a right to teach them to their children.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People have a right to their religous values, and a right to teach them to their children.</p>
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