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	<title>Comments on: Student lawyers act for students in RIAA case</title>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14433#comment-254515</link>
		<author>Reader's Write</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 17:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would consider it proactive defense since the RIAA was going to sue 1/4 of the student population anyway.   I would get the EFF's help on this.  They've been tearing up the RIAA/MPAA mafia for awhile now.  

/rant mode 1

Have any of you ever thought of what our children will think of us?  What do we think of people that lived during the dark ages? Only priests can read and write?  Only patent/copyright owning corporations can read and write?  Natural law doesn't allow this.  For those of you sucking off of a licensing fee to prove your worth, you had better find something more service oriented to do.  You can't fight gravity even if you were born in the clouds. 

These gutsy students are just taking a taste from a much bigger salt-lick.  This is the truth about copyright/patent/unenforceable law:

Information demands that it be replicated.  
Information is secret.
Information is not secret.

If you understand those 3 absolutes above you will never be disappointed and you will always know the outcome.
If you need a clue, I'm afraid you'll have to study Life aka Biology.   Study your own DNA, or that of any life form in the universe.  And so that's all we are- Information.  They used to call it the Word in the old days.  But we don't want to confuse the issue here.  

/rant mode 0

Best of luck to you students.  Understand that while the RIAA live in a temporary economic bubble, they can still hurt you- physically and financially.   This is the entertainment industry, once run by the mafia.  Now enforced by the ATF/FBI.  Welcome to the hell your idiotic parents have created.  Enjoy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would consider it proactive defense since the RIAA was going to sue 1/4 of the student population anyway.   I would get the EFF&#8217;s help on this.  They&#8217;ve been tearing up the RIAA/MPAA mafia for awhile now.  </p>
<p>/rant mode 1</p>
<p>Have any of you ever thought of what our children will think of us?  What do we think of people that lived during the dark ages? Only priests can read and write?  Only patent/copyright owning corporations can read and write?  Natural law doesn&#8217;t allow this.  For those of you sucking off of a licensing fee to prove your worth, you had better find something more service oriented to do.  You can&#8217;t fight gravity even if you were born in the clouds. </p>
<p>These gutsy students are just taking a taste from a much bigger salt-lick.  This is the truth about copyright/patent/unenforceable law:</p>
<p>Information demands that it be replicated.<br />
Information is secret.<br />
Information is not secret.</p>
<p>If you understand those 3 absolutes above you will never be disappointed and you will always know the outcome.<br />
If you need a clue, I&#8217;m afraid you&#8217;ll have to study Life aka Biology.   Study your own DNA, or that of any life form in the universe.  And so that&#8217;s all we are- Information.  They used to call it the Word in the old days.  But we don&#8217;t want to confuse the issue here.  </p>
<p>/rant mode 0</p>
<p>Best of luck to you students.  Understand that while the RIAA live in a temporary economic bubble, they can still hurt you- physically and financially.   This is the entertainment industry, once run by the mafia.  Now enforced by the ATF/FBI.  Welcome to the hell your idiotic parents have created.  Enjoy.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14433#comment-246298</link>
		<author>Jon</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2007 21:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14433#comment-246298</guid>
		<description>I put a link to this on a private list. One poster expressed similar reservations to 'Non-student lawyer' #2 (without the dig at p2pnet ;) ).

Another responds:

“”The students are from the Cumberland Clinic : http://mainelaw.maine.edu/cumberlandlegal.asp

“The Cumberland Legal Aid Clinic (”CLAC”) is one of the nation’s oldest continuously-operating law school clinical programs. The … CLAC provide[s] third-year law students the opportunity to provide direct representation to low-income clients in need of legal assistance - in other words, to practice law.

“The ’student attorneys’ are specially licensed by the Maine Supreme Judicial Court and the United States District Court to practice under the supervision of a fully licensed faculty member. While Clinic faculty provides instruction and supervision, the students are, in every respect, the lawyers for the Clinic’s clients. Students interview and counsel clients, develop case theory, conduct discovery, negotiate outcomes with opposing parties and counsel, prepare cases for court, and handle hearings, trials, and appeals.

“So, I suspect the Maine Supreme Judicial Court is cool with this.

“Note, BTW, that both Maine and Virginia allow you to ‘read the law’ (i.e., apprentice), but I am not sure if apprentices are allowed to practice any.”

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I put a link to this on a private list. One poster expressed similar reservations to &#8216;Non-student lawyer&#8217; #2 (without the dig at p2pnet <img src='http://www.p2pnet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> ).</p>
<p>Another responds:</p>
<p>“”The students are from the Cumberland Clinic : <a href="http://mainelaw.maine.edu/cumberlandlegal.asp" rel="nofollow">http://mainelaw.maine.edu/cumberlandlegal.asp</a></p>
<p>“The Cumberland Legal Aid Clinic (”CLAC”) is one of the nation’s oldest continuously-operating law school clinical programs. The … CLAC provide[s] third-year law students the opportunity to provide direct representation to low-income clients in need of legal assistance - in other words, to practice law.</p>
<p>“The ’student attorneys’ are specially licensed by the Maine Supreme Judicial Court and the United States District Court to practice under the supervision of a fully licensed faculty member. While Clinic faculty provides instruction and supervision, the students are, in every respect, the lawyers for the Clinic’s clients. Students interview and counsel clients, develop case theory, conduct discovery, negotiate outcomes with opposing parties and counsel, prepare cases for court, and handle hearings, trials, and appeals.</p>
<p>“So, I suspect the Maine Supreme Judicial Court is cool with this.</p>
<p>“Note, BTW, that both Maine and Virginia allow you to ‘read the law’ (i.e., apprentice), but I am not sure if apprentices are allowed to practice any.”</p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14433#comment-246302</link>
		<author>Jon</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2007 21:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14433#comment-246302</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;I'd guess the 2nd 'Non-student' post is from a different person than the first. That's one trouble with not demanding that people register before they're allowed to post.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Cheers!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d guess the 2nd &#8216;Non-student&#8217; post is from a different person than the first. That&#8217;s one trouble with not demanding that people register before they&#8217;re allowed to post.</p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Non-student lawyer</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14433#comment-246287</link>
		<author>Non-student lawyer</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2007 21:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14433#comment-246287</guid>
		<description>This is anther typically uninformed P2PNet 'story'.

I will be very surprised if the university and Professor Smith are not censured.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is anther typically uninformed P2PNet &#8217;story&#8217;.</p>
<p>I will be very surprised if the university and Professor Smith are not censured.</p>
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		<title>By: Non-student lawyer</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14433#comment-246160</link>
		<author>Non-student lawyer</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2007 19:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14433#comment-246160</guid>
		<description>Good for them. This is exactly the kind of experience they will need, sadly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good for them. This is exactly the kind of experience they will need, sadly.</p>
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