Don’t Share any movies or music or games etc.. Only download them for yourself, thats not breaking the law.

As for “quote: Don’t like a price? Don’t buy it.” I’m glad you agree. But music and movie product is for sale and you understand this, so stop taking it p2p at no payment, too. That’s why there are laws against this. It’s cheap and small minded. There’s not much integrity using technology to cover taking without paying. A true boycott would be legal and impressive, but you don’t care. You still want it all, you just won’t pay for it, so now we don’t get paid either. Since when did pirates have integrity?

if that is true then how could anyone suggest that downloading any of these digits would constitute ip infringement of any kind ,

the reall culprits would be the media player manufacturer
who convert those digits back to there origanel form and then allow the user unlimteted access without first obtaining prior permision or paying proper fees etc?

digits can not be owned by anyone can they?

flame away all , was hoping this would be a start in the right direction when or if santa brings me a subpoenae

And there you have exactly what drives P2p among many other reasons. Could not agree more with that part of your post and I do follow that creedence.

‘Free’ as in free ‘freedom’, not free beer, and the independent music sites and P2P networks are separate entities, not one and the same, as you suggest.

“I’d LOVE to see the industry brought to its knees and artists like me find a way to be paid better and more directly.”

In that case, launch your own site (I bet you’d be pleasurably surprised at the result). And join us and the millions and millions of other people around the world who are giving the Big 4 the bird while they wait for them to open their catalogues and bring their wholesale prices down to reasonable levels to allow a competitive market to emerge.

Cheers!

Well. That’s not very evenhanded, now is it?

“Bullying” is in the eye of the beholder. From where I stand, the millions and millions of of dollars invested in education all in the good faith that we’ll SIMPLY OBEY EXISTING LAWS when we finally understand them isn’t bullying at all. Following due process and a century of legal precedent with court-decision support every step of the way isn’t bullying, either. And offering a chance to pay a fine or take your chances in court, (at the discretion of the infringer), that’s not bullying either. You break the law and get caught? You still get a choice. You broke the law, remember? Are they supposed to give you a free pass?

You make this sound as if the infringer is not the one infringing, not the one creating this issue in the first place. Surveillance, law enforcement, subpeona’s, fines, and court cases all go away when people who take a product properly intended for sale actually return to paying for it. Since when in our system of justice is the lawbreaker the aggrieved party?

To refer to P2P networks as “independent music sites” is like referring to counterfeiting rings as “independent currency producers.” I suspect you are joking. I certainly hope so. It brings a satisfying ring of faux legitimacy to a very clearly defined illegal activity but at the end of the day, that is just shameful bs. No wonder you get no respect.

And the term “corporate rip-off area” is simply a misnomer. Don’t like a price? Don’t buy it. Whether it is Amazon, iTunes or Walmart, product is product and they can offer it for sale as they see fit and let the market sort itself out. Some might find the Beemer 7 series a rip-off, too, or the cost of a loaf of bread. But does that justify taking it without paying? This is not a rhetorical question. This is a founding principle of civilization.

At base, you are fomenting a kind of anarchy, a “we’ll do whatever it takes legal-or-not to get this product for free” and that is where you lose me. You routinely decry the legal steps taken to stop this crime while ignoring entirely that we have a legal system, a legislature, a judicial system and a capitalistic model all to be taken into consideration and utilized properly to change things to the way we’d like to see them. Supporting anarchy wastes time, money and damages people’s lives.

What if the FBI played by the same rules of anarchy that you do and simply took your site down? That would be illegal too, right? And I’d imagine you’d have a small problem with that. (Just as you should.) But you appear to have no problem as long as it is somebody else getting screwed.

I think P2P is genius when used for legal purposes. I have no respect for the illegal use of anything, frankly, digital or not. And I am SO NOT a mouthpiece for the RIAA; they’ve leveraged their dominance within our capitalist system for years and distribution models change and markets adapt. But if you keep espousing flat out illegal behavior and copyright infringement as if they were legitimate market forces, remember that when you give no justice, you get no justice. I’d have a LOT MORE RESPECT for the p2p community if they stopped buying, stopped infringing, stopped taking and began a legal class action across the board, a full court press of our legislature and judiciary demanding a change in copyright, if that is what you ultimately seek. And living with the results, whatever they are. That’s our system.

But instead, everyone just sneaks around. YOU are actually the “lurkers”. It is YOU who use the cloak of technology and the lead time of the justice system to take something you know you are supposed to pay for. You are facilitating a daily crime that is damaging musicians and the future of new music far more than it ever damaged a record exec. So until you abandon this self-entitled anarchy–which makes you look like spoiled children, frankly– and find the integrity and the courage to do this correctly within the system we all live in and benefit from, you’ll not have my support. I’d LOVE to see the industry brought to its knees and artists like me find a way to be paid better and more directly. But the way something is achieved is as important as what is being achieved itself, and nothing good nor lasting will be built upon the anarchic foundations of illegal p2p.

By the way they can not tell who is downloading and they can not tell for sure who is sharing beyong the reasonable doubt Still they keep lying and lying and lying under oath and I though that was a crime in itself. Isn’t it?

My high end amp THD is 0.009% THD (@8 Homs) 150W RMS/ chanel 10Hz-45kHz+/- 3db and I though it was very low. needless to say that I am not listening to MP3 file with this stuff.

Yet I am running a computer days and night sharing over 20k RIAA members music crapy tracks of the britney slutt and so on and around 3k movies for now more than two years and on various p2p network just to bother you RIAA/MPAA and so far nothing! I have spent 2k$ just for this. Where is my lawsuit RIAA/MPAA? Are you afraid of me? I am ready for it and I demand it so that I can kick you dirty liar’s ass full of shit.

Or by a small silvery meteorite you know the one that look like a rocket.

You know..

The ods and that…

It might actually happen and this time it would not only be the Corporate music dinosaurs that would vanish (while that might be a desireable effect after all)